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Jul 9th, 2016 at 12:00pm
 
US election: Hillary Clinton blames State Department for misuse of classified documents on email

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Hillary Clinton has responded to the FBI's scathing assessment that she was "extremely careless" with classified government secrets, by shifting the blame onto her former colleagues at the US State Department.

After maintaining for more than a year that she did not send or receive classified information through her unauthorised private email server, Mrs Clinton acknowledged she may have at least unwittingly done so, three days after the FBI concluded this happened at least 110 times.

The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said she "certainly did not believe" that she was handling classified information on her server at the time, but emphasised that she followed the lead of her subordinates on whether information was classified.

"These are experienced diplomats, they have expertise in handling classified material," Mrs Clinton said.


"They were not careless and the material that they sent, they did not believe that was classified."

Mrs Clinton, who was the department's most senior classifying authority during her four-year tenure at its helm, did not address the FBI's conclusion that she herself sent information on topics classified as "top secret", the highest level, through the private server she kept in her basement.

It is a crime to mishandle classified information, and while FBI director James Comey said there was evidence Mrs Clinton or her aides may have broken these laws, there was not enough evidence of criminal intent for a prosecution.

In an unusual 15-minute announcement explaining the FBI's findings, Mr Comey ended up dismaying both Republicans and Democrats.

While Mrs Clinton's Republican opponents have fumed at the decision not to file criminal charges, Mrs Clinton and her staff have disputed some of Mr Comey's criticisms that undermine her argument she has better judgement than businessman Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential candidate.

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The FBI's James Comey has undercut some of Hillary Clinton's defence in using private email. Here is where they diverge.
Mr Comey called her and her staff "extremely careless" and said that any "reasonable" government employee should have known such information should not be aired in emails.

Her server was so poorly secured the FBI could not eliminate the possibility it had not been hacked by the country's enemies, Mr Comey said.

Asked if she agreed that she was "extremely careless", Mrs Clinton said she was not, adding that Mr Comey had "clarified" his remarks. It was unclear what clarification Mrs Clinton was referring to.

In lengthier comments before Congress, Mr Comey again spoke of Mrs Clinton's carelessness and "real sloppiness", adding that it seemed she was not "particularly sophisticated with respect to classified information".

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Reply #1 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 12:09pm
 
ohhh Clinton ... for some reason i thought it said Turnbull

Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #2 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 12:45pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 12:09pm:
ohhh Clinton ... for some reason i thought it said Turnbull

Cheesy Cheesy


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Reply #3 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 1:46pm
 
John Smith wasn't born a dufus, it crept over him like ivy grows on a tree.
One of the final symptoms is the tendency to end every post with a laughing smiley, as if this might somehow ward off criticism. It doesn't.
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The FBI Director may have been incorrect in his assumptions regarding whether or not Hillary Clinton should be indicted on criminal charges for her gross negligence in handling Top Secret & Highly Classified Government Documents & Information on her private email servers, for which she had no government permission, at any level, to do.

The call on indictment is not his call, it is the call of a Federal Prosecutor. The FBI Director can only offer his personal opinion regarding indictment.....which he did. Other than making sure the FBI investigation's findings are delivered to the appropriate authorities, his obligations end the moment he turns them over, which preceded his statements.

Now it's up to Hillary Clinton to respond to the facts contained in the FBI Findings....not his opinion.....no, the actual findings.

Hillary Clinton will have to answer to the Court of Public Opinion......the American People.....answer to Congress.....the representatives of the American People.......& answer to any Federal Court that may or may not decide to prosecute her, irregardless of Mr. Comey's personal opinion(s) suggesting otherwise.

She may hem & haw....dance to & fro....& slither from here to there, but in the end she must answer to the statements below:



FBI Director Comey's Seven (7) Most Damning Statements
from the FBI's Investigation on Clinton



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1. "Extremely careless"
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information."

2. "Should have known"
"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position, or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."

3. "Especially concerning"
"None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government -- or even with a commercial email service like Gmail."

4. "Still obligated to protect it"
"Only a very small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."

5. "Generally lacking"
While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified email systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information that is found elsewhere in the government.

6. "Hostile actors"
"We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent."

7. "Sophisticated adversaries"
"She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account."




As noted by the WE in the above statements, the Director was speaking of cumulative findings from within the investigation completed by the FBI, & these were not Comey's personal opinions, but rather the actual findings of the FBI Probe into Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton, which was delivered to the proper authorities for further determination, a determination the FBI Director has no say in, or control over whatsoever.


I can't wait to see how she tries to dodge on those issues of fact......but dodge she will, because when confronted with the truth, as a liar, it's her only option.




dodge
    
Australian Oxford Dictionary, 2nd. Edition © Oxford University Press 2004

• v.
Intr. [often foll. by about, behind, round] move quickly to one side or quickly change position, to elude a pursuer, blow, etc. (dodged behind the chair).

Tr.
a. evade by cunning or trickery (dodged paying the fare).
b. elude (a pursuer, opponent, blow, etc.) by a sideward movement etc.
Tr. colloq. acquire dishonestly.
Intr. (of a bell in change-ringing) move one place contrary to the normal sequence.

• n.
A quick movement to avoid or evade something.
A clever trick or expedient.
The dodging of a bell in change-ringing.



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Reply #5 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 12:45pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 12:09pm:
ohhh Clinton ... for some reason i thought it said Turnbull

Cheesy Cheesy


Glasses, or back to school Jack?


neither .... but thanks for asking
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Reply #6 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
John Smith wasn't born a dufus, it crept over him like ivy grows on a tree.
One of the final symptoms is the tendency to end every post with a laughing smiley, as if this might somehow ward off criticism. It doesn't.



it's not a smiley you doofus  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #7 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
John Smith wasn't born a dufus, it crept over him like ivy grows on a tree.
One of the final symptoms is the tendency to end every post with a laughing smiley, as if this might somehow ward off criticism. It doesn't.


No, the nong was always a dufus.

He's worsened over time though.
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Reply #8 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 5:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 4:57pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 1:46pm:
John Smith wasn't born a dufus, it crept over him like ivy grows on a tree.
One of the final symptoms is the tendency to end every post with a laughing smiley, as if this might somehow ward off criticism. It doesn't.



it's not a smiley you doofus  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



A Smiley is also known as an Emoticon  Wink

Source: WEBOPEDIA    Quote:
A smiley face, also called a text smiley, smiley or emoticon, is ordinary keyboard characters used in text-based communications to represent a human facial expression............
continued(link) in detail


Code:
 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( 8-) :-? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-/ :-* :'(   

which are graphically depicted below,

Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Embarrassed Lips Sealed Undecided Kiss Cry    are all emoticons, which are commonly known, by definition, as smileys (plural of smiley)......

Therefore,  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  are smileys, & a  Cheesy  is in fact a smiley   Wink

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Reply #9 - Jul 9th, 2016 at 8:39pm
 
Panther wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 5:28pm:
A Smiley is also known as an Emoticon  Wink



it may be common, but that doesn't make it right. Only an idiot would call an emoticon of someone crying (for eg) a smiley ...


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Reply #10 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 11:10am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 8:39pm:
Panther wrote on Jul 9th, 2016 at 5:28pm:
A Smiley is also known as an Emoticon  Wink



it may be common, but that doesn't make it right. Only an idiot would call an emoticon of someone crying (for eg) a smiley ...




Something like 'act naturally' or better yet  'seriously funny'  & 'found missing'.

A 'crying smiley' fits right into your logic....on it's head.

'Good grief', it's the 'same difference'.

'You're wrong', but we'll all pretend that you're right.....simple as that....so, suck it up princess & deal with it....life marches on  ...

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