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Reply #15 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

In my local area people say she's an inarticulate nong but agree with the vibe of what she says

hay, thats what i was going to say, Wink

But , in the same way the greens have damaged the environmental movement by being nongs, she will damage patriotism by being a nong.

I miss the days when the Greens cared about the environment.

Do you think Greenpeace are pissed off the Greens pilfered their name?

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Reply #16 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:30pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

In my local area people say she's an inarticulate nong but agree with the vibe of what she says

hay, thats what i was going to say, Wink

But , in the same way the greens have damaged the environmental movement by being nongs, she will damage patriotism by being a nong.

I miss the days when the Greens cared about the environment.

Do you think Greenpeace are pissed off the Greens pilfered their name?

they have been a disaster for the environment.
They needed someone like David Attenborough who could really connect. And David, like most "real" environmentalists is always cool, calm, never flustered, never angry, very soothing, just like Mother Nature, just like a dip in a beautiful rainforrest pool.

Instead we got Sarah Hansen Young and Adam Bandt and Christine Milne...always angry, always hating on someone, always acting like they have a broomstick up their a*ss. About as un soothing and disconnected as you could get.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35009 Gender:	Re: Still MORE Validation for Pauline Reply #17 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:32pm Back to pauline. She needs to be soothing and calming and not fall into the "frame" of a green senator. Remain calm and people will seek comfort in your presence (and give you their vote). Become hysterical and they will be repulsed
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Reply #18 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Back to pauline.
She needs to be soothing and calming and not fall into the "frame" of a green senator.

Remain calm and people will seek comfort in your presence (and give you their vote).

Become hysterical and they will be repulsed

They are already repulsed. Her racism and bigotry does that. Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:42pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:30pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:19pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:08pm:

Dustwun wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

In my local area people say she's an inarticulate nong but agree with the vibe of what she says

hay, thats what i was going to say, Wink

But , in the same way the greens have damaged the environmental movement by being nongs, she will damage patriotism by being a nong.

I miss the days when the Greens cared about the environment.

Do you think Greenpeace are pissed off the Greens pilfered their name?

they have been a disaster for the environment.
They needed someone like David Attenborough who could really connect. And David, like most "real" environmentalists is always cool, calm, never flustered, never angry, very soothing, just like Mother Nature, just like a dip in a beautiful rainforrest pool.

Instead we got Sarah Hansen Young and Adam Bandt and Christine Milne...always angry, always hating on someone, always acting like they have a broomstick up their a*ss. About as un soothing and disconnected as you could get.

I listened to an interview with Peter Willcox (Rainbow Warrior Cpt.) last night. Now there's an alpha dog.
I've put his book on my read list.

The Green party should be split in two.
The smart science based environmentalists can stay in the green party.

The current green party, the ones who want to run around trying to bottle unicorn farts can join the fuchsia party. Fuchsia because they're not even good enough to be pink because pink used to be a masculine colour.

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Reply #21 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 6:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Back to pauline.
She needs to be soothing and calming and not fall into the "frame" of a green senator.

Remain calm and people will seek comfort in your presence (and give you their vote).

Become hysterical and they will be repulsed

They are already repulsed. Her racism and bigotry does that. Roll Eyes

well, clearly a million or so voters were not repulsed.
and you dont speak for them.

But power and leadership are all in the sub communication.

the people who voted for her , rightly or wrongly (and it matters not a jot as their votes still COUNT numptie), are probably people who are a little more fearful and concerned then other voters.

Fearful and concerned people (lets use the example of "fearful and concerned people who have just survived a plane crash in the amazon)..they want a strong confident leader. Someone who just IS the sh*t.
They would want a "bear grylls" type personality

Hey listen folks, thanks for the all those votes...we are heading THIS WAY. come with me. I am a good leader. I know where the f*ck I'm going.
If pauline can "boss up", if she can really be that icey pimp Mother F*cker, like Gert whats-his-name, she will get momentum.

If she just becomes a whiney little b*tch like the women of the left, people will desert her in droves.

personally, i think Julie Bishop could head the Pauline Hansen party. i dont think Pauline has the skill set

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Reply #22 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 7:04pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Back to pauline.
She needs to be soothing and calming and not fall into the "frame" of a green senator.

Remain calm and people will seek comfort in your presence (and give you their vote).

Become hysterical and they will be repulsed

They are already repulsed. Her racism and bigotry does that. Roll Eyes

well, clearly a million or so voters were not repulsed.
and you dont speak for them.

Never claimed to, Acquascoot. Roll Eyes

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If she just becomes a whiney little b*tch like the women of the left, people will desert her in droves.

You mean Women who think and can articulate their viewpoint well and just happen to be those that I disagree with?

What a shame that you're so frightened by women who are assertive, Acquascoot. Roll Eyes

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personally, i think Julie Bishop could head the Pauline Hansen party. i dont think Pauline has the skill set

I think anybody with half a brain could head the PHONies and do a better job of it than Pauline Hanson. Roll Eyes

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21682 ACT Gender:	Re: Still MORE Validation for Pauline Reply #23 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 7:23pm My feeling is Pauline and her party will be one term wonders (some 3 years, others 6 because of the Senate terms) They appeal to the lowest of society but even they will wake up. She is rather dumb whatever way you look at her statements.
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Reply #24 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 7:51pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 7:04pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:37pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 5:32pm:

Back to pauline.
She needs to be soothing and calming and not fall into the "frame" of a green senator.

Remain calm and people will seek comfort in your presence (and give you their vote).

Become hysterical and they will be repulsed

They are already repulsed. Her racism and bigotry does that. Roll Eyes

well, clearly a million or so voters were not repulsed.
and you dont speak for them.

Never claimed to, Acquascoot. Roll Eyes

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If she just becomes a whiney little b*tch like the women of the left, people will desert her in droves.

You mean Women who think and can articulate their viewpoint well and just happen to be those that I disagree with?

What a shame that you're so frightened by women who are assertive, Acquascoot. Roll Eyes

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personally, i think Julie Bishop could head the Pauline Hansen party. i dont think Pauline has the skill set

I think anybody with half a brain could head the PHONies and do a better job of it than Pauline Hanson. Roll Eyes

i'm not frightened by women who are assertive Brian.

I'm just not impressed by women who are emotional.
Women tend to be more emotional (though many beta males also fall into this feminine frame).
And people who have not "mastered their emotions" should not lead, not because they arent assertive, but because they arent "mindful".

How do you become mindful....thru years of grinding it out, being subjected to brutal evolutionary pressure.

That means someone who has risen thru the ranks of the military or risen thru the ranks of business.
these people have been shaped by this training and now they are fit to lead.

Most women in politics have not followed this route (with the exception of Julie Bishop).
Most come from academia or the public sector.
Pauline is one of the few who have come through business. If she had opened a chain of Fish and Chip franchises.. Mc Hansens or something, then i would see a woman who was climbing the ladder, who was on the narrow road to succuess. But far as i can tell she never went anywhere. She might as well have joined the public service and just been a mediocre person like all the women in the labor party (i include kevin Rudd in that..he was the most unmanly man in politics).

It is hard to respect mediocre people and entrust them with leadership.

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Reply #26 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 9:15pm

PZ547 wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 10:51am:

While conducting a bit of casual research online in relation to Halal certification, I came across this item

It has a poll

The poll results blew me away

because in response to the question: ' Are You Concerned About Pauline Hanson ' (or words to that effect)

54.2% of respondants have said 'No'

compared with 45.98% who answered 'Yes'

It's in the Jewish News

https://www.jewishnews.net.au/companies-drop-kosher-symbol/41467

alongside an the article

' Companies Drop Kosher Symbol '

Why not post a link to your poll???

Huh

Just goes to show how ignorant Pauline Hanson really is....
https://www.jewishnews.net.au/companies-drop-kosher-symbol/41467

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Reply #27 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 9:20pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 7:51pm:

i'm not frightened by women who are assertive Brian.

Your statements would indicate otherwise, Acquascoot.

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I'm just not impressed by women who are emotional.
Women tend to be more emotional (though many beta males also fall into this feminine frame).
And people who have not "mastered their emotions" should not lead, not because they arent assertive, but because they arent "mindful".

How do you become mindful....thru years of grinding it out, being subjected to brutal evolutionary pressure.

That means someone who has risen thru the ranks of the military or risen thru the ranks of business.
these people have been shaped by this training and now they are fit to lead.

Most women in politics have not followed this route (with the exception of Julie Bishop).
Most come from academia or the public sector.
Pauline is one of the few who have come through business. If she had opened a chain of Fish and Chip franchises.. Mc Hansens or something, then i would see a woman who was climbing the ladder, who was on the narrow road to succuess. But far as i can tell she never went anywhere. She might as well have joined the public service and just been a mediocre person like all the women in the labor party (i include kevin Rudd in that..he was the most unmanly man in politics).

It is hard to respect mediocre people and entrust them with leadership.

You use a narrow definition of "assertiveness", Acquascoot.

I have known women in academia, in the home, in the military and in business who have been "assertive" while still not being imitation men - which is essentially what you appear to desire them to be. Some have used their emotions to good effect. Some not so much. Still didn't stop them from asserting themselves and getting their point across.

Hanson is I agree overly emotional. She believes everybody should be a jingoist and wrap themselves in the flag. That is just emotive and of course theatrical. She believes we are "in danger of being swamped by Asians", yet it hasn't happened, nor will it happen and even if it did, what business is it of hers? If all Asian immigrants become Australians, they have a right to an equal democratic right to her. She is not the Queen of Australia, nor is she ever likely to be the PM. She is inferring that Australians of Asian descent are somehow dangerous to Australia as a nation. Why? Because she is a racist and a bigot. QED. Roll Eyes

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Reply #28 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 9:52pm

matty wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

It's just the loony inner city chattering classes that don't like Pauline. I have spoken to a lot of people in the suburban Sydney and the vast majority like her. The chattering classes can't seem to recognise that we have just as much right to vote as they do. And Pauline has won a Senate seat fair and square. She has just as much right to that seat as does every other 215 people democratically elected to Parliament.

Of course she does. She is still a racist little bigot, just like many of her supporters.

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Reply #29 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 9:54pm

Kytro wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

matty wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

It's just the loony inner city chattering classes that don't like Pauline. I have spoken to a lot of people in the suburban Sydney and the vast majority like her. The chattering classes can't seem to recognise that we have just as much right to vote as they do. And Pauline has won a Senate seat fair and square. She has just as much right to that seat as does every other 215 people democratically elected to Parliament.

Of course she does. She is still a racist little bigot, just like many of her supporters.

So??

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