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Reply #120 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 6:57am

Emma wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 2:01am:

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When a government endorses, actively maintains, and claims some sort of victory by locking up refugee women and children, and enabling their torture and even, their death,?? that GOVT has NO CLAIM to any sort of validity or ethical MANDATE.

And so here we are.. my fellow Australians. IN OUR NAME THIS continues. Tongue

No society which thinks this is OK can survive, long term. One societal impact..?

We have a massive problem with DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WOMEN... and CHILDREN,, are killed EVERDAY here in AUSTRALIA.. the best country in the world. Sad

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WHEN OUR VERY GOVERNMENT PROMOTES, CONDONES and DEFENDS this inhumane treatment of innocents...

is it any wonder that our society reflects those values?. SICK VALUES.

I am disgusted that this govt is BLIND, to all practical purposes, to the harm they are doing, through this policy they love, because they won.., , not just to those poor homeless apparently worthless victims, but to our whole society.

Hey.. !!!!

the government does it, all day everyday. Women and children are worthless... and they deserve the treatment our Govt enables. THAT IS THE MESSAGE.

i sometimes wonder what went wrong with people like you Peel.
There is more then enough suffering going on in the world and if you feel strongly about it, you only need to go and have a cuppa with a neighbour and promote a bit of good karma.
An old chap a bit up from me shot himself in the chest a week ago.
Old lonely farmer, no one in the city (1/2 an hours drive away) could be bothered giving a flying fa*rck about him after a life of contribution.
You city trash , are more interested sitting with your eyes glued to the ABC and SBS , getting all watery eyed about people you have never met and will never meet.
Why dont you do something practical instead of just venting at people like Dutton and calling him a monster and a nazi. Why dont you get off your fat a*rse and drive 1/2 an hour and save a life.
You can tape SBS and ABC so you can still enjoy your fake moral outrage when you get home.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DtEFEAT Reply #121 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:11am The Labor king-makers will dump Shorton, that's a foregone conclusion. The only question is whether Albanese, although a very accomplished minister, could ever be embraced by the electorate.
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Reply #122 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:15am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:11am:

The Labor king-makers will dump Shorton, that's a foregone conclusion. The only question is whether Albanese, although a very accomplished minister, could ever be embraced by the electorate.

I don't think so,
Albanese doesn't have that prime-ministerial look about him.
He also speaks in a strange way.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138875 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DtEFEAT Reply #123 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:43am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:11am: The Labor king-makers will dump Shorton, that's a foregone conclusion. When do you think that will happen, Homo? Be specific.
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Reply #124 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:45am

Emma wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 1:18am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:43am:

juliar wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:21pm:

Why didn't Albo Sneezy challenge Shorty at last week's Caucus meeting ?

Because Labor gained all the seats that the Liberals lost? That's a far greater win than forming a government of a couple of maybe's - who will vote with you as long as...The Price Is Right!

Interesting times ahead.

The fact that DUTTON, as been PROMOTED, as a result of this election is ONE BIG BAD NEGATIVE.

If Turnbull really had any say in HIS ( Roll Eyes

) Cabinet, the people who were complicit in the campaign SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED.
I am saying... GET RID of DUTTON, if you want the public's confidence and TRUST.
Get rid of Morrison, a bulldozing waster of public confidence...
Get rid of PYNE.. a waste of space, altogether
Get rid of J BISHOP, a scheming lying mealy-mouthed pollie.. and nothing else.

NOPE.. THIS GOVT is doomed already. We now have the Nazi - like Dutton on our SECURITY COMMITTEE. Shocked

The man is a monster, along with Morrison they have done their very best to keep women and children in indefinite detention, at huge risk of abuse and torture, at enormous cost to not only those refugees so unfortunate as to have become a political pawn in the 'fear' campaign run by the LNP, but also to the soul of Australia, and it's economy. Tongue

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OUR CORE VALUES should NEVER ALLOW SUCH INJUSTICE to be visited on refugees.

BUT THE LNP won govt on that fear-based campaign,, and this time round, no-one said BOO.

The white elephant in the room. No Minister of Govt can claim ANY superiority, when they keep these people in these concentration camps. IT IS Shameful, and UN AUSTRALIAN.

COME ON OZ GOVT... act to do GOOD... NOT HARM.

Hard to disagree with most of that.

Well said.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #125 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:51am Within the next 6 months.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74966 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #126 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:54am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:51am: Within the next 6 months. wake up to yourself
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #127 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:56am Why do you care, you voted for Pauline.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74966 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #128 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:57am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:56am: Why do you care, you voted for Pauline. Are you trying to see how many things you get wrong in one morning?
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Reply #129 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:01am

Emma wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 1:18am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 12:43am:

juliar wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 11:21pm:

Why didn't Albo Sneezy challenge Shorty at last week's Caucus meeting ?

Because Labor gained all the seats that the Liberals lost? That's a far greater win than forming a government of a couple of maybe's - who will vote with you as long as...The Price Is Right!

Interesting times ahead.

The fact that DUTTON, as been PROMOTED, as a result of this election is ONE BIG BAD NEGATIVE.

If Turnbull really had any say in HIS ( Roll Eyes

) Cabinet, the people who were complicit in the campaign SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED.
I am saying... GET RID of DUTTON, if you want the public's confidence and TRUST.
Get rid of Morrison, a bulldozing waster of public confidence...
Get rid of PYNE.. a waste of space, altogether
Get rid of J BISHOP, a scheming lying mealy-mouthed pollie.. and nothing else.

NOPE.. THIS GOVT is doomed already. We now have the Nazi - like Dutton on our SECURITY COMMITTEE. Shocked

The man is a monster, along with Morrison they have done their very best to keep women and children in indefinite detention, at huge risk of abuse and torture, at enormous cost to not only those refugees so unfortunate as to have become a political pawn in the 'fear' campaign run by the LNP, but also to the soul of Australia, and it's economy. Tongue

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OUR CORE VALUES should NEVER ALLOW SUCH INJUSTICE to be visited on refugees.

BUT THE LNP won govt on that fear-based campaign,, and this time round, no-one said BOO.

The white elephant in the room. No Minister of Govt can claim ANY superiority, when they keep these people in these concentration camps. IT IS Shameful, and UN AUSTRALIAN.

COME ON OZ GOVT... act to do GOOD... NOT HARM.

what a bitter old lady you are.......can only believe your pension has been taken away from you...

concentration camps.. I bet anyone who lived through REAL concentration camps would like to have a REAL chat with you. Angry

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #130 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:05am The reason that the ALP haven't yet dumped Shorton already is that they still haven't woken up to the fact that they lost. A bit slow on the left...
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Reply #131 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:08am

Bobby. wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:15am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:11am:

The Labor king-makers will dump Shorton, that's a foregone conclusion. The only question is whether Albanese, although a very accomplished minister, could ever be embraced by the electorate.

I don't think so,
Albanese doesn't have that prime-ministerial look about him.
He also speaks in a strange way.

He's a typical Italian boy.

A Mummy's boy.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #132 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:13am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:05am: The reason that the ALP haven't yet dumped Shorton already is that they still haven't woken up to the fact that they lost. A bit slow on the left... Yep, the ALP are only just starting to realize they've been conned by the nong.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138875 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #133 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:18am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11^th, 2016 at 7:51am: Within the next 6 months. That would first require a petition from at least 60% of the federal parliamentary Labor Party, wouldn't it?
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: SHORTEN ADMITS DEFEAT Reply #134 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 8:26am How many people make up 60% of federal Labor now? Twenty, thirty?
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