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Reply #75 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:46pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
It will most likely be a non-event.

Shorty must have so much dirt on the union bosses that he is able to blackmail them into letting him stay when the rubbish tin is the right place for him.

The LNP want Shorty to stay as he is unelectable as there is so much union corruption slime dripping off him and his creepy shifty mug turns voters off.

Making fake MediCare cards is simply FRAUD and the penalty is $5000. This was discussed on 2GB.


Shorty hasn't got the initials BS for nothing.

He's full of it!
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Reply #76 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:48pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I love how no one here has still explained how the Libs aren't actually out to privatize healthcare in Australia.

Crying over "Privatizing medicare" is just semantics, Healthcare under the Liberals is moving closer and closer to a user pays system. Medicare = Healthcare. Is it still false to say medicare has been privatized when the Libs plan of completely gutting medicare and forcing people onto PHI? How do you privatize medicare in any other way?


You sure you want to talk user-pay system?

Hmmmm?

Think very carefully before you answer that question.


Go ahead, I've provided numerous evidence to you showing how the Libs plan to move healthcare in Australia to user pay, which you have completely ignored.

Explain otherwise.

The Liberals goal for healthcare in Australia is user pay and shrinking medicare down so only the poorest of the poor can use it, the Liberals want every Australian on Private Health Insurance, this has been the case since the Howard introduced LHC in 2000 and the Liberals have slowly expanded on it since.
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Reply #77 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:49pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Last I heard it lost around $16 billion/yr.

Yeah....I'm sure anyone and everyone would want to invest in an organization like that lol.

Stupid blooming fools!


... you do realize that medicare is a public service right? Why in bugger should it be making a profit? That makes no sense.
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Reply #78 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:50pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:46pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:41pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 1:34pm:
Took him long enough. Now it's time for the Federal government to prosecute the QLD branch of the ALP for those disgraceful, fraudulent Medicare text messages.


aww surely not..

Bill hasn't lost yet!!!

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Grin  Grin

What a nong hey lol.




maybe this will mean the end of his victory in failure tour  Wink

what a flogger..


To be brutally honest I hope BS continues his failure tour.

Even those blooming naive and trusting Labor voters are FINALLY waking up to the delusional nong that he is. Grin
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Reply #79 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:51pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:49pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Last I heard it lost around $16 billion/yr.

Yeah....I'm sure anyone and everyone would want to invest in an organization like that lol.

Stupid blooming fools!


... you do realize that medicare is a public service right? Why in bugger should it be making a profit? That makes no sense.



There is no business model.

It was a dirty Labor lie.
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Reply #80 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:51pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:38pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I love how no one here has still explained how the Libs aren't actually out to privatize healthcare in Australia.

Crying over "Privatizing medicare" is just semantics, Healthcare under the Liberals is moving closer and closer to a user pays system. Medicare = Healthcare. Is it still false to say medicare has been privatized when the Libs plan of completely gutting medicare and forcing people onto PHI? How do you privatize medicare in any other way?


I think medicare loses money.
Probably hard to sell it, if it does lose money



libs aren't worried about selling medicare, they just want to whittle down so that it is pointless so as to force everyone onto private health. Then they can funnel the $3B + that is currently spent on medicare to their mates in big business.
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Reply #81 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:52pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I love how no one here has still explained how the Libs aren't actually out to privatize healthcare in Australia.

Crying over "Privatizing medicare" is just semantics, Healthcare under the Liberals is moving closer and closer to a user pays system. Medicare = Healthcare. Is it still false to say medicare has been privatized when the Libs plan of completely gutting medicare and forcing people onto PHI? How do you privatize medicare in any other way?


You sure you want to talk user-pay system?

Hmmmm?

Think very carefully before you answer that question.


Go ahead, I've provided numerous evidence to you showing how the Libs plan to move healthcare in Australia to user pay, which you have completely ignored.

Explain otherwise.

The Liberals goal for healthcare in Australia is user pay and shrinking medicare down so only the poorest of the poor can use it, the Liberals want every Australian on Private Health Insurance, this has been the case since the Howard introduced LHC in 2000 and the Liberals have slowly expanded on it since.


Lisa Jones!  Ball is in your court.
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Reply #82 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:53pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:49pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Last I heard it lost around $16 billion/yr.

Yeah....I'm sure anyone and everyone would want to invest in an organization like that lol.

Stupid blooming fools!


... you do realize that medicare is a public service right? Why in bugger should it be making a profit? That makes no sense.


Are you seriously this stupid?

Why do you think I posted what I did?
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Reply #83 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:51pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:49pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:44pm:
Last I heard it lost around $16 billion/yr.

Yeah....I'm sure anyone and everyone would want to invest in an organization like that lol.

Stupid blooming fools!


... you do realize that medicare is a public service right? Why in bugger should it be making a profit? That makes no sense.



There is no business model.

It was a dirty Labor lie.


Of course it was.

And the victims of this dirty Labor lie?

Simple trusting Australians.

That makes it disgusting.
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Reply #84 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:56pm
 
Only a retard would believe that the medicare privatization board wasn't looking at ways to privatise medicare
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



I know, I'm going to start a business called Johns Tyres so that I can sell computers  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #85 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:57pm
 
I mean, I can't believe these idiots complain about "Mediscare" which is basically fact, while they completely ignore

- Carbon tax will destroy the country

- Refugees are stealing our jobs and are dole bludgers

- FTTP NBN will cost 97 billion dollars

- Labors war on home investors

- Labors war on business

- Wind turbines cause "WTS"

- Labor lied about a "Carbon Tax" (only if you quote mine Gillard to cut off the rest of the sentence and ignore the Carbon Tax isn't even a tax but was the ETS with a fixed price period, ASKED FOR BY BUSINESS)

Or how about here in Canberra

- "Vote Liberals and put Labor last if you want to see Light Rail Scrapped" when in reality, the Liberal party support light rail and Tony Abbott funded it and held it up as a pet project.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-10/abbott-uses-act-light-rail-project-example-for-transport-funding/6610968
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Reply #86 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 8:01pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I love how no one here has still explained how the Libs aren't actually out to privatize healthcare in Australia.

Crying over "Privatizing medicare" is just semantics, Healthcare under the Liberals is moving closer and closer to a user pays system. Medicare = Healthcare. Is it still false to say medicare has been privatized when the Libs plan of completely gutting medicare and forcing people onto PHI? How do you privatize medicare in any other way?


You sure you want to talk user-pay system?

Hmmmm?

Think very carefully before you answer that question.


Go ahead, I've provided numerous evidence to you showing how the Libs plan to move healthcare in Australia to user pay, which you have completely ignored.

Explain otherwise.

The Liberals goal for healthcare in Australia is user pay and shrinking medicare down so only the poorest of the poor can use it, the Liberals want every Australian on Private Health Insurance, this has been the case since the Howard introduced LHC in 2000 and the Liberals have slowly expanded on it since.


Ahhh so you do want to talk user pay system

In that case, we'll need to go BACK TO KEATING.....the FATHER OF ECONOMIC RATIONALISM, as he is known and referred to in political economy academia.

Keating was the champion of the user pay system. During his yrs as Treasurer and as PM, the user pay system was his slogan.

He made sure it affected EVERYTHING from education to health.

Keating.

Labor.

User pay.

Never forget that.

Again.
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Reply #87 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 8:03pm
 
Why should Shorten admit defeat when Malcolm hasn't won a victory?  Is there a defeat without a victory now?  Mal struggled in by forming an alliance with the very people his party vilified - 'a vote for a  Indepedent is a vote for Labor' - what a hoot that a vote for an Independent is now a vote for LNP... yet not a word is spoken.....

Shorten admitting defeat shows that he has no firm grip on the simple realities of politics as they function in this country, and he,and his Party simply don't have the balls to stand up and call a spade a spade...

The LNP lost as much as Labor lost - according to the Australian People, who, none of them, asked their chosen Independents and minors to support the LNP.

So Turnbull should be admitting defeat and start eating some crow, along with his big-mouthed cronies, and start working FOR the Australian people instead of against them.

Bill may not have the balls, nor his Party of feminist running dogs, to call it as it is - but I do.

Now bring on the Party of the Third Way for the next election... I see this election not as a disaster for the Australian people, but as a golden opportunity to get something going for US, and not THEM.  And before you start - it was not I who declared it US and Them - it was the major parties..... unfortunately the way things are going it will become EITHER us or them who survive.... and, people, it will not be me or mine who go under to cater to the failures of these political lackeys of special interest groups.
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Reply #88 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 8:06pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:27pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:24pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 6:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
A claim appearing to come from medicare with a false message.
The Liberals only wanted to streamline the computer services
using the skills of private companies - the only ones who  who can provide such a service.
There were no plans to wreck Medicare - it did not need to be saved -
only made better.

https://www.pedestrian.tv/images/article/2016/07/03/meditext1-619-386.png



It doesn't appear to be coming from Medicare, and the message isn't false.

No fraud.

Sorry, Booby.



It came up as the sender = Medicare on all our mobiles.

My God, why do you think we're still so angry about it here???

My husband in particular who ALWAYS VOTES LABOR and who voted Liberal for the 1st time in his life in the last Federal election in protest.



Don't worry Lisa,
there will be a trial & Shorty will at least have to answer some hard questions.


He is a distasteful union thug.

He needs to go. Post haste.

My husband reckons that he was like that even at Uni. He was not liked by many Laborites there.


Forgot to mention, my husband knew him from his uni days.

My husband was also involved with uni student union etc.
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Reply #89 - Jul 10th, 2016 at 8:08pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 8:01pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:48pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:39pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Jul 10th, 2016 at 7:31pm:
I love how no one here has still explained how the Libs aren't actually out to privatize healthcare in Australia.

Crying over "Privatizing medicare" is just semantics, Healthcare under the Liberals is moving closer and closer to a user pays system. Medicare = Healthcare. Is it still false to say medicare has been privatized when the Libs plan of completely gutting medicare and forcing people onto PHI? How do you privatize medicare in any other way?


You sure you want to talk user-pay system?

Hmmmm?

Think very carefully before you answer that question.


Go ahead, I've provided numerous evidence to you showing how the Libs plan to move healthcare in Australia to user pay, which you have completely ignored.

Explain otherwise.

The Liberals goal for healthcare in Australia is user pay and shrinking medicare down so only the poorest of the poor can use it, the Liberals want every Australian on Private Health Insurance, this has been the case since the Howard introduced LHC in 2000 and the Liberals have slowly expanded on it since.


Ahhh so you do want to talk user pay system

In that case, we'll need to go BACK TO KEATING.....the FATHER OF ECONOMIC RATIONALISM, as he is known and referred to in political economy academia.

Keating was the champion of the user pay system. During his yrs as Treasurer and as PM, the user pay system was his slogan.

He made sure it affected EVERYTHING from education to health.

Keating.

Labor.

User pay.

Never forget that.

Again.


Do you think I give a poo about a Neoliberal Blaritie like Keating? It currently is not Labor policy, it currently is Liberal policy.

Also outsourcing government services to private for profit companies IS actually defined as privatisation of public service. It increases red tape as government then has to regulate a private provider. It costs more as government then has to pay private provider both the cost of running the service, plus extra profit, plus enough bureaucrats to regulate and supervise the private provider.

The Libs, by giving the backend of of Medicare to Telstra ARE LITERALLY PRIVATIZING MEDICARE. IT'S LITERAL PRIVATIZATION OF MEDICARES BACKEND.
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