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Jul 12th, 2016 at 2:57pm
 

Fully 56 percent of Americans think the FBI’s leading man, James Comey, ought to have recommended Hillary Clinton for indictment over her handling of emails while serving as secretary of state, a new poll revealed.

An ABC News/Washington Post survey shows that thanks to Comey’s recommendation against charging Clinton, a majority of Americans are now concerned she might not be able to handle her responsibilities as president, if elected, in the best manner possible.


Still, most aren’t changing their minds about voting for Clinton, ABC News reported. It’s just that now, of Clinton’s Democratic and independent supporters, 28 percent are less supportive of her than they normally would be.

As ABC summarized: “Overall, 56 percent disapprove of FBI Director James Comey’s recommendation not to charge Clinton, while just 35 percent approve. Similarly, 57 percent say the incident makes them worried about how Clinton might act as president if she is elected, with most very worried about it. Just 39 percent feel the issue isn’t related to how she would perform as president.”

By the party, the numbers are more divided.


Roughly nine of 10 Republicans disagree with Comey’s decision to cut Clinton loose of culpability, and say it worries them about how she’d run the White House. By contrast, about two-thirds of Democrats approve of Comey’s decision, and don’t see any correlation between her email server scandal and the actions she would take as president, if elected. But even three in 10 Democrats say she should have been charted.

And the response from the independent camp showed this, ABC reported: “Roughly 6 in 10 independents say the FBI was wrong and that the issue raises worries about Clinton as president

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Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:06pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 2:57pm:
But even three in 10 Democrats say she should have been charted.


These are Bernies (former) supporters, and they're the ones who will deliver victory to Trump.
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... wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 2:57pm:
But even three in 10 Democrats say she should have been charted.


These are Bernies (former) supporters, and they're the ones who will deliver victory to Trump.


I don't think so. But lets wait and see what happens at the Republican's convention. It could be messy.
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... wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 2:57pm:
But even three in 10 Democrats say she should have been charted.


These are Bernies (former) supporters, and they're the ones who will deliver victory to Trump.


Not because they will vote for Trump, no, simply because they are so devastated that Bernie would sell them out to Clinton, someone they seriously don't like because of her Wall Street ties...etc, they'll probably stay home & not vote at all.....which in the end enlarges Trump's plurality. The MSM & many polls actually count heavily on them shifting in masse from Bernie to Hillary......IMHO......that's not going to happen.



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Panther wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 7:04pm:
... wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 12th, 2016 at 2:57pm:
But even three in 10 Democrats say she should have been charted.


These are Bernies (former) supporters, and they're the ones who will deliver victory to Trump.


Not because they will vote for Trump, no, simply because they are so devastated that Bernie would sell them out to Clinton, they'll probably stay home & not vote at all.....which in the end enlarges Trump's plurality.


There'll be a bit of both.  Nobody outside the bitter old cat lady demographic is going to get out of bed to vote for Hilary.  She's a bad candidate.  Too bad.

There is a fair bit of crossover between Trump and Sanders supporters.  Not the hard cores obviously, but the fringes of each group overlap greatly, only the artificial divisions of "left vs right" are keeping them polarised.

As with his realignment of the Republican party in the primaries, in the general election, Trump the Uniter will realign the left/right divide along a truer dichotomy of globalism/nationalism.  This will allow burned bernie supporters to crossover, and deliver the election to Trump in a landslide. 
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Reply #5 - Jul 13th, 2016 at 5:49am
 
Intelligent Americans don't care about the emails. Republicans have been going after the Clintons for 25 years, wasting resources for 25 years, finding nothing for 25 years. That ought to trouble Trump.
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AiA wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 5:49am:
finding nothing for 25 years.


?????

A lot has been found, it just hasn't been acted upon. 

Not sure why all these "intelligent" americans are cool with corruption and a double standard in the law.  Maybe they're not that intelligent after all.
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... wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 8:55am:
AiA wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 5:49am:
finding nothing for 25 years.


?????

A lot has been found, it just hasn't been acted upon. 

Not sure why all these "intelligent" americans are cool with corruption and a double standard in the law.  Maybe they're not that intelligent after all.





This guy seems to agree with ya .... to a degree (see if you can spot it):






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AiA wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 5:49am:
Intelligent Americans don't care about the emails. Republicans have been going after the Clintons for 25 years, wasting resources for 25 years, finding nothing for 25 years. That ought to trouble Trump.

If 56 percent of Americans think Hillary Clinton should have been indicted, then on what planet do Americans not care about the emails?

It was no small thing when Obama's FBI Director said she was "extremely careless" with her emails, some of which contained national secrets. And it didn't help her to get caught in several lies.

And the New York Post is reporting that her husband cut a deal with Attorney General Lynch on that notorious airplane when they weren't talking about golf and grandkids.

But that all amounts to "nothing," right? In the words of Sergeant Schultz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
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Reply #9 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:27pm
 
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
AiA wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 5:49am:
Intelligent Americans don't care about the emails. Republicans have been going after the Clintons for 25 years, wasting resources for 25 years, finding nothing for 25 years. That ought to trouble Trump.

If 56 percent of Americans think Hillary Clinton should have been indicted, then on what planet do Americans not care about the emails?

It was no small thing when Obama's FBI Director said she was "extremely careless" with her emails, some of which contained national secrets. And it didn't help her to get caught in several lies.

And the New York Post is reporting that her husband cut a deal with Attorney General Lynch on that notorious airplane when they weren't talking about golf and grandkids.

But that all amounts to "nothing," right? In the words of Sergeant Schultz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo


So what was Comey's motives then....in your opinion?  Could it be he was setting a bigger table?




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Reply #10 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:54pm
 
The4thEstate wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 5:53pm:
AiA wrote on Jul 13th, 2016 at 5:49am:
Intelligent Americans don't care about the emails. Republicans have been going after the Clintons for 25 years, wasting resources for 25 years, finding nothing for 25 years. That ought to trouble Trump.

If 56 percent of Americans think Hillary Clinton should have been indicted, then on what planet do Americans not care about the emails?

It was no small thing when Obama's FBI Director said she was "extremely careless" with her emails, some of which contained national secrets. And it didn't help her to get caught in several lies.

And the New York Post is reporting that her husband cut a deal with Attorney General Lynch on that notorious airplane when they weren't talking about golf and grandkids.

But that all amounts to "nothing," right? In the words of Sergeant Schultz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo


Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of gang raping a child.

For some reason, you're perfectly OK with that.

Interesting.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:54pm:
Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of gang raping a child.



By who, an anonymous accuser?....The case is over 20+ years old.....there's no need to protect the accuser. So, who's bringing the action...does on actually exist?

Did the pretrial judge & prosecutor voir dire the key witnesses yet to get past the fringe element, anonymous accuser, accusation stage.....& did he/she/they clear the charges for grand jury consideration?

Until then this case has no more merit or weight than the hundreds upon hundreds of other frivolously contrived political hack cases before the courts every election year.

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Reply #12 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:21pm
 
Panther wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:54pm:
Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of gang raping a child.

For some reason, you're perfectly OK with that.

Interesting.



By who, anonymous accuser?....



Yes.

Does that make the alleged gang rape of a child more palatable for you?


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Reply #13 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Panther wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:54pm:
Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of gang raping a child.



By who, an anonymous accuser?....



Yes.

Does that make the alleged gang rape of a child more palatable for you?


It's not me that sets the bar....it's the pretrial judge that decides to pass the charges on, or toss the case based on lack of merit, like it was 20+ years ago. One of the first things the judge will demand is to identify the accuser, & after hearing her statement(s) in person, decide to proceed based on witness credibility. Hurdle 1 of a dozen...... Wink

This is completely off topic from the OP....I will entertain it no more....
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Reply #14 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:32pm
 
Panther wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:21pm:
Panther wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:54pm:
Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of gang raping a child.



By who, an anonymous accuser?....



Yes.

Does that make the alleged gang rape of a child more palatable for you?


... like it was 20+ years ago.



Ah.

You condone the gang rape of children, as long as it happened a long time ago?

Gotcha.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
Lips Sealed


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Your off topic, troll.
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Panther wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:32pm:
Lips Sealed


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Your off topic, troll.


Why do you support an alleged child rapist?

Alleged gang rape of a child, actually.

Why doesn't that concern you?

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Reply #17 - Jul 14th, 2016 at 9:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Why do you support an alleged child rapist?



Is Hillary an alleged child rapist?
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lee wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 9:56pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 8:49pm:
Why do you support an alleged child rapist?



Is Hillary an alleged child rapist?


No.

Donald Trump is.

It's alleged that he gang raped a child.

And, many forum members here are supporting him unconditionally.

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Panther wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 7:27pm:
So what was Comey's motives then....in your opinion?  Could it be he was setting a bigger table?

Well, the FBI is part of Obama's Justice Department, which is under the thumb of Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

And with a presidential election only a few months away, it's unimaginable that a Democrat administration would undermine its own party's leading candidate. That's not how you achieve and maintain power for your team.

My guess is that, as the New York Post has reported, Lynch and Bill Clinton talked about more than grandkids and golf on that airplane. Lynch likes her job and perks, and Bill's wife has the power to let her keep it if she wins in November, so ... let the mutual back-scratching begin! 

Comey probably likes his job too, so it was a matter of obeying the strict orders of his boss Lynch, who was obeying the strict orders of her boss Obama. [Cue "The Godfather" theme song.]
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Reply #20 - Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And, many forum members here are supporting him unconditionally.



I am glad you are not a judge. Making findings based on no evidence..
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lee wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And, many forum members here are supporting him unconditionally.



I am glad you are not a judge. Making findings based on no evidence..


Still ignoring the fact that Trump has been accused of gang raping a child, I see.

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lee wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And, many forum members here are supporting him unconditionally.



I am glad you are not a judge. Making findings based on no evidence..

DFTT.

It's about the attention, not the debate.
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The4thEstate wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:53pm:
lee wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2016 at 10:04pm:
And, many forum members here are supporting him unconditionally.



I am glad you are not a judge. Making findings based on no evidence..

DFTT.

It's about the attention, not the debate.


For you, it's all about supporting an alleged child rapist.

Why is that?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:08pm:
Still ignoring the fact that Trump has been accused of gang raping a child, I see.



I ignore a lot of things you say. It doesn't mean I support the opposite view.
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Reply #25 - Jul 16th, 2016 at 3:11pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2016 at 12:08pm:
Still ignoring the fact that Trump has been accused of gang raping a child, I see.



I ignore a lot of things you say. It doesn't mean I support the opposite view.


Ditto...  ...  ...except remove "...a lot of things..." & insert "virtually everything"       ...

 
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