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Reply #15 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:54pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Saw this the other day, might pay to watch then reconsider blanket statements like "Muslim Countries" & Islamophobia. It would not exist if we sheeted home the problems to those that deserve the blame rather than an easy scapegoat.[/url]

We know Muslim countries have problems... the video just points out that different Muslim countries have different problems. We know that... what do they have in common?
THEY ARE MUSLIM COUNTRIES...

So why don't we refer to them as countries rather than religion.

We do... but you forget they are not secular states... most Christian countries are... Islam is not just a Religion... you forget that too.

FGM as referred to in the video, is a christian country problem(or more to the point an African problem) yet in reporting we here it's Muslim countries,

well lets see then eh, not just accept blindly what Aslan says... most of us know its cultural and ethnic in fact but then culture is also Islam...

not only is this factually incorrect but even if they did report it correctly you can bet it would be described as an Eritrean or African problem NOT a CHRISTIAN Country problem.

Stop bashing a religion & sheet home the blame to those that deserve it.

Mostly it is... are you saying Islamic State is not Islamic?

Or better yet BAN ALL RELIGIONS, then no one would have an excuse.

That is truly a rubbish statement.

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Reply #16 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:04pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Saw this the other day, might pay to watch then reconsider blanket statements like "Muslim Countries" & Islamophobia. It would not exist if we sheeted home the problems to those that deserve the blame rather than an easy scapegoat.[/url]

We know Muslim countries have problems... the video just points out that different Muslim countries have different problems. We know that... what do they have in common?
THEY ARE MUSLIM COUNTRIES...

So why don't we refer to them as countries rather than religion.

FGM as referred to in the video, is a christian country problem(or more to the point an African problem) yet in reporting we here it's Muslim countries, not only is this factually incorrect but even if they did report it correctly you can bet it would be described as an Eritrean or African problem.

Another dopey dickhead leftist Islamic apologist sticking up for Islam.

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Circumcision is not an inherited custom as some people claim, rather it is prescribed in islam and the scholars are unanimously agreed that it is prescribed.
Not a single muslim scholar- as far as we know- has said circumcision is not prescribed.
islamqa.info/en/60314

Why do dickhead leftists stick up for this belief, muslims are allowed to lie and these dopey dim witted leftists make great useful idiots.
Sunnah.com/bukhari/53/3

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: The truth about "islamaphobia" Reply #17 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm "Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.
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Reply #18 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

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Reply #19 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:24pm

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

Kishori Saran Lal was the first to do statistics on the Islamic texts, he put it at 63% political ideology with 37% for religion.

It is considered blasphemy to separate the political aspects from the religion, they chop your head off for that.

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Reply #20 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

Unlike the left who just want to brush it off and pretend there is no issue. Despite the fact that not one of you can name any recent mass killings by any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or any other r idiots group.

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Reply #21 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:56pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

Kishori Saran Lal was the first to do statistics on the Islamic texts, he put it at 63% political ideology with 37% for religion.

It is considered blasphemy to separate the political aspects from the religion, they chop your head off for that.

That's exactly right. One needs only to look at the difference between Jesus and Muhammed. I eill give two specific examples. Jesus said that only he without sin should cast the first stone to a woman who committed adultery, Muhammed said to stone all women who committed adultery; Jesus killed nobody, Muhammed killed 800 Jewish men and boys.

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Reply #22 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:00pm

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

Unlike the left who just want to brush it off and pretend there is no issue. Despite the fact that not one of you can name any recent mass killings by any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or any other r idiots group.

Apologist.

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Reply #23 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

Unlike the left who just want to brush it off and pretend there is no issue. Despite the fact that not one of you can name any recent mass killings by any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or any other r idiots group.

Apologist.

Exactly, that's what you all are. Good to see you finally admit it.

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Reply #24 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:02pm

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

Unlike the left who just want to brush it off and pretend there is no issue. Despite the fact that not one of you can name any recent mass killings by any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or any other r idiots group.

Apologist.

Exactly, that's what you all are. Good to see you finally admit it.

I make no apologies for killers.

You, on the other hand, are always wanting to shift the blame.

Apologist.

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Reply #25 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:03pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 9:41am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 9:37am:

salad in wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Mr Aly is not a muslim. If he were he would be fighting with ISIL. There is no verse in the koran that allows muslims to relax their harsh views. There is no mention in the koran of moderate muslims or radical muslims. There is no manichean type escape clause in the koran. If you cleave to the alleged religion of islam you are a muslim without any shades of grey, light grey, dark grey etc.

Well not entirely true. There are reformist Muslims who actually wish for their religion to undergo enlightenment as what happened with Catholicism. And there are of course radicals/extremists, orthodox, and the moderates.

The regressive left are in fact supporting the conservative Muslims over the reformists.

Really? And on what basis do you come to the conclusion, Gordy? Where have you read any "Left" writings? Roll Eyes

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Reply #26 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

Unlike the left who just want to brush it off and pretend there is no issue. Despite the fact that not one of you can name any recent mass killings by any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or any other r idiots group.

Apologist.

Exactly, that's what you all are. Good to see you finally admit it.

I make no apologies for killers.

You, on the other hand, are always wanting to shift the blame.

Apologist.

Where have I shifted the blame? Give me one example.

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Reply #27 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:00pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

matty wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:18pm:

"Islamophobia" is just a term made up by the regressive left Muslim apologists to try to denigrate those of us who actually have valid and warranted concerns about Islam, which is more a political ideology than a religion.

That's what all the Islamophobes say.

(all terms are "made up", by the way)

Unlike the left who just want to brush it off and pretend there is no issue. Despite the fact that not one of you can name any recent mass killings by any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or any other r idiots group.

Apologist.

Exactly, that's what you all are. Good to see you finally admit it.

I make no apologies for killers.

You, on the other hand, are always wanting to shift the blame.

Apologist.

Where have I shifted the blame? Give me one example.

You shift the blame to Islam, like all the other apologists.

Apologist.

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #28 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:28pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 12:16pm:

Saw this the other day, might pay to watch then reconsider blanket statements like "Muslim Countries" & Islamophobia. It would not exist if we sheeted home the problems to those that deserve the blame rather than an easy scapegoat.[/url]

We know Muslim countries have problems... the video just points out that different Muslim countries have different problems. We know that... what do they have in common?
THEY ARE MUSLIM COUNTRIES...

Yet their Islam differs markedly, between each country. That is something the Fundamentalist Islamists want to see ended. It is something we should be promoting. Anything that divides Muslims and allows individuality to be seen and accepted, is a good thing IMO. Roll Eyes

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Reply #29 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 2:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 9:41am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 9:37am:

salad in wrote on Jul 13^th, 2016 at 8:46am:

Mr Aly is not a muslim. If he were he would be fighting with ISIL. There is no verse in the koran that allows muslims to relax their harsh views. There is no mention in the koran of moderate muslims or radical muslims. There is no manichean type escape clause in the koran. If you cleave to the alleged religion of islam you are a muslim without any shades of grey, light grey, dark grey etc.

Well not entirely true. There are reformist Muslims who actually wish for their religion to undergo enlightenment as what happened with Catholicism. And there are of course radicals/extremists, orthodox, and the moderates.

The regressive left are in fact supporting the conservative Muslims over the reformists.

Really? And on what basis do you come to the conclusion, Gordy? Where have you read any "Left" writings? Roll Eyes

Why don't you see left wing politicians and activists out there criticising such attacks? Why didn't the homosexual lobby groups release a single statement about the Orlando massacre? Why do we constantly hear the left saying that there is good and bad in all religions, when clearly there is more bad in Islam than there is any other religion? Why do we the left pass the blame to the West for Islamic attacks?

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