sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:17pm:


Sure is.

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I'm not sure what you're reading, but I'm reading someone who was nearly killed in the most dangerous part of Afghanistan and telling his personal story.

I'm not sure what sort of insight you'd prefer, Alevine.

I blame Islam?

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:24pm:


I think I get what your problem is karnal, you never read the actual articles but only what you want:

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He said the blame for this "silly, bloody, tiny incident" lay with the West.

"And I'll say it again. If I were an Afghan refugee in Kila Abdullah, I would have done just what they did.

"I would have attacked Robert Fisk. Or any other Westerner I could find.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:


I think that's your problem, Alevine. The article paraphrases Fisk as blaming the West.

Fisk is describing how desperate people who've lost everything raise their fists against those who are bombing them.

And in doing so, he's describing how easy it is in a time of war to turn against the very people he's reporting on.

The article uses a dark, atavistic irony to underscore Fisk's point. I don't understand how your only conclusion is "Fisk blames the West", but I don't understand how you could lose all curiosity and critical thinking in the space of a few months either.

[color=#ffff00][/color]Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:


It's victim blaming karnal.  Nothing more.  just because I am from the west does not mean I am guilty and therefore an afghan has the right to punch me.  I am not an emblem of the entire western culture and therefore an afghan should not assume straight away that i must agree with what is happening with the war and Therefore punch me.  Just like i dont assume every Muslim wants to stone me to death, and hence I don't go about killing them in "Self defence".

You can read more about this from Andrew Sullivan, who is not a Murdoch reporter.

Aly is still an apologist, perhaps that Muslims must stick with muslims creed affects his outlook more than he thinks, perhaps it also skews your outlook also.

Fisk is an idiot at times and absolute idiot.  He has rare useful insights, but mostly he's an idiot.

Karnal wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 5:55pm:


Actually it's not, Orwell would throw up reading Robert Fisk because he stands for everything Orwell was against.

And no, he is exactly doing just that: the afghans who bashed him were justified because he was a westerner.  That's what he is saying karnal, if you were to actually read the entire peice. Read Andrew Sullivan, it might help you out.

Here you go karnal

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2001/12/09/the-pathology-of-robert-fisk/


I might not agree with Andrew Sullivan on most things, but on this he is spot on.

Grendel wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 4:04pm:


Yet the Old Testament is in every copy of the Christian Bible.

There are also minor differences between the Jewish Old Testament and the Christian Old Testament.

Christianity was founded in the New Testament but has had 2,000+ years of development.  Christian Theology is a wide and varied subject, addressing topics which weren't even considered 2,000+ years ago.   It is what Christianity is. Grendel.