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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #390 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 6:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 3:49pm:

I wonder which Islamic regime would allow a Jewish person to even become a citizen, let alone automatically? But that doesn't concern Brian Wink

Correct because we are discussing Israeli citizenship, not Muslim nation citizenship.

And if you're interested, Iran allows Jews to become citizens automatically, as do most other Muslim nations, except for Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Sudan (that I am aware of).

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Even in Australia citizenship is not Automatic to everyone.

Wrong. If you are born in Australia you are considered an Australian citizen.

If you are born in Israel and a Jew, you are considered an Israeli citizen. If you are a Christian or a Muslim or any other religion you must apply for Israeli citizenship.

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The difference is everyone has a chance of citizenship regardless of their ethnicity. Just like in Israel.

If you are born in Australia, yes that's true. If you migrate to Australia, you must become naturalised. In Israel as has already been related, things are different.

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But not in Islamic regimes. But that's not ts problem. According to Brian, the doctor of divinity.

No, it isn't my problem. It appears to be yours though. Could it because you're bigoted? Roll Eyes

What is wrong with you? Is it the comprehension skill? Or the limitation is intelligence? An person born in Australia is not guaranteed citizenship: a person born to a citizen is (the law before 1996 was that even this wasn't guaranteed).

Iran gives citizenship as long as the daddy is a citizen. Israel to either parents.

Are you just upset about right of return? Is that the problem? The fact remains that any person regardless of their religion can live and work in Israel, but
Israelis can not live and work in all of the Middle East. And why? Because of the Islamic regimes and their fascist beliefs.

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #391 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:57pm

To summarise,

The doctor of divinity hates Israel and believes the ideas in Islam are peaceful and liberal, despite every Islamic regime using Islam as the basis for their fascist states. Millions of people are denied human rights, and all the doctor of divinity can tell us is that over a hundred years ago the Old Testament was just as bad. And Israel. Bad Israel! Despite Israel being the only real democracy in the Middle East.

Aussie doesn't care because apparent people can break free of dictators and really, it's not his problem because he's enjoying life in Australia and that's all that matters to him.

Gweggy is just being a troll.

Mothra wants to agree but is too afraid of being labeled an islamaphobic. I hope you'll get there, mothra.

Karnal seems to understand, but still doesn't understand that criticism of an idea is not criticism of individual people.

Anyone from the regressives who I've missed?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38844 Gender:	Re: The truth about "islamaphobia" Reply #392 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:59pm Quote: An person born in Australia is not guaranteed citizenship: a person born to a citizen is... Yeas...or born in Australia to a person having permanent residency.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42305	Re: The truth about "islamaphobia" Reply #393 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm: Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right? No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk.
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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #394 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:31pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

What is wrong with you? Is it the comprehension skill? Or the limitation is intelligence?

Why do you feel the need to resort to insults, innuendo all the time? Roll Eyes

When you want to discuss this matter seriously, get back to me. Otherwise, you're seriously looking like a bigot. Roll Eyes

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #395 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

What is wrong with you? Is it the comprehension skill? Or the limitation is intelligence?

Why do you feel the need to resort to insults, innuendo all the time? Roll Eyes

When you want to discuss this matter seriously, get back to me. Otherwise, you're seriously looking like a bigot. Roll Eyes

I've asked you to use your divine knowledge to explain how Islamic regimes misinterpret Islam.

Take your degree out, and use its powers to help you Wink

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #396 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 10:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right?

No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Nope wrong again bwian
I'm just posting the truth.... you and the bigots are the one desperate to libel her and her party.
20 years of pathetic obsession bwian... pathetic.

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #397 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 10:16pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

What is wrong with you? Is it the comprehension skill? Or the limitation is intelligence?

Why do you feel the need to resort to insults, innuendo all the time? Roll Eyes

When you want to discuss this matter seriously, get back to me. Otherwise, you're seriously looking like a bigot. Roll Eyes

Don't be a hypocrite you just libeled me again in your last post.
You've been doing that to me and others for 20 years bwian.

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #398 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:14am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right?

No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

He goes way beyond trolling.

I think he may have some serious mental issues.

Sad, really.

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #399 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:54am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

What is wrong with you? Is it the comprehension skill? Or the limitation is intelligence?

Why do you feel the need to resort to insults, innuendo all the time? Roll Eyes

When you want to discuss this matter seriously, get back to me. Otherwise, you're seriously looking like a bigot. Roll Eyes

I've asked you to use your divine knowledge to explain how Islamic regimes misinterpret Islam.

I do not claim divinity nor divine knowledge. Your childish insults are starting to wear thin.

"Islamic" regimes misinterpret Islam to suit their rule, Frank. There are only five nations with the word "Islamic" in their official title. I suspect though, you believe all Muslim majority nations are "Islamic"?

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Take your degree out, and use its powers to help you Wink

You and your alter ego have exactly what qualifications in theology? Roll Eyes

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #400 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:14am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right?

No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

He goes way beyond trolling.

I think he may have some serious mental issues.

Sad, really.

Outright denial appears to be his present tactic. Yes, it is sad, really. Roll Eyes

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #401 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:25am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

What is wrong with you? Is it the comprehension skill? Or the limitation is intelligence?

Why do you feel the need to resort to insults, innuendo all the time? Roll Eyes

When you want to discuss this matter seriously, get back to me. Otherwise, you're seriously looking like a bigot. Roll Eyes

I've asked you to use your divine knowledge to explain how Islamic regimes misinterpret Islam.

I do not claim divinity nor divine knowledge. Your childish insults are starting to wear thin.

"Islamic" regimes misinterpret Islam to suit their rule, Frank. There are only five nations with the word "Islamic" in their official title. I suspect though, you believe all Muslim majority nations are "Islamic"?

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Take your degree out, and use its powers to help you Wink

You and your alter ego have exactly what qualifications in theology? Roll Eyes

I see a lot of mouth movement but not much actual substance. Come now doc, surely you can do better?

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #402 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:50am

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:14am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right?

No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

He goes way beyond trolling.

I think he may have some serious mental issues.

Sad, really.

Outright denial appears to be his present tactic. Yes, it is sad, really. Roll Eyes

The same MO as ian.

No matter how blatantly obvious it is to everyone here that ian is wrong about something, he'll maintain that he is correct and that he has "owned" the other forum member who is delivering the facts.

A very strange thing to do.

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #403 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:52am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:14am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right?

No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

He goes way beyond trolling.

I think he may have some serious mental issues.

Sad, really.

Outright denial appears to be his present tactic. Yes, it is sad, really. Roll Eyes

The same MO as ian.

No matter how blatantly obvious it is to everyone here that ian is wrong about something, he'll maintain that he is correct and that he has "owned" the other forum member who is delivering the facts.

A very strange thing to do.

Similar to you and Brian right now, you mean?

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Re: The truth about "islamaphobia"
Reply #404 - Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:56am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:52am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 8:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2016 at 12:14am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 9:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 7:25pm:

Serious question: Grendel has some sort of mental disability, right?

No, I think he is merely trolling. He is desperate to prove that Pauline is not a racist, not a bigot, not a Xenophobe. He will resort to any lies, insults, that suit his purpose. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

He goes way beyond trolling.

I think he may have some serious mental issues.

Sad, really.

Outright denial appears to be his present tactic. Yes, it is sad, really. Roll Eyes

The same MO as ian.

No matter how blatantly obvious it is to everyone here that ian is wrong about something, he'll maintain that he is correct and that he has "owned" the other forum member who is delivering the facts.

A very strange thing to do.

Similar to you and Brian right now, you mean?

Absolutely nothing like Brian and me right now.

Your failure to comprehend has been duly noted, though.

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