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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #15 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 3:24pm 21 July Ohio Trump/Clinton 44/44 (& this isn't swing state but it is a surprise New Hampshire Trump/Clinton 37/39 ) There are a number of polls which include the two minor candidates but I am ignoring these, even though from a casual glance Trump's standing increases.
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Reply #16 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 3:55pm

Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore, who rarely has anything positive to say about Republicans, predicted Wednesday that Donald Trump would win the presidency.

“I’m sorry I have to kind of be the buzz kill here so early on, but I think Trump is going to win,” Mr. Moore said on a special edition of “Real Time with Bill Maher.”

Mr. Moore said the Republican National Convention speeches blasting Democrat Hillary Clinton may have sounded “crazy to us, but to millions and millions of Americans, this was music to their ears.”

“One of the things I’ve been concerned about this week is that we’re all sitting [in] what as you refer to as the bubble, we’ve been sitting in our bubble having a good laugh at what you call this total sh— show, but the truth is this plays to a lot of people he has to win to become the next president,” Mr. Moore told Mr. Maher.

A Michigan native, Mr. Moore pointed out that more people voted Republican in this year’s Michigan primary than Democrat.
“That should be disturbing to everyone,” said Mr. Moore, a liberal provocateur and director of documentary-style films such as “Roger and Me” and “Fahrenheit 9/11.”

He said there could be a “Brexit” by four large manufacturing states — Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — that would give Mr. Trump the 64 electoral votes that Republican Mitt Romney lost by in 2012.

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Reply #17 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:54pm

rhino wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 11:38pm:

bugger me. how could it come down to this, 2 of the most pathetic candidates for the US presidency ever in history. :-Whats going on over there Mort? something in the water?

having watched Trumps speech its the gun lobby that are backing him they have more power than congress ..

they went mad when he said.. every American has the right to bare arms....and murder murder murder...

and he worries about little things like terrorists....he has a mountain of home grown ones.

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Reply #19 - Jul 24^th, 2016 at 3:35pm

Politico:

Donald Trump spent much of his acceptance speech Thursday night in Cleveland arguing that Clinton and President Barack Obama have made the country less safe. Leading into that speech, a majority of Ohio voters agreed.

A Suffolk University poll conducted over the first three nights of the convention had Trump and Clinton tied on the ballot test at 44 percent.

But the poll also showed 55 percent of likely voters in Ohio felt less safe living in the country over the past 5 to 10 years — and a 60-percent majority of them are voting for Trump, compared to just 27 percent for Clinton.

And among the nearly quarter of likely voters who said terrorism and national security were the most important issues facing the next president, Trump leads by a similar margin: 61 percent to 26 percent.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #20 - Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:08pm July 22 Michigan Trump/Clinton 34/40 (But this is a poll from Mitchell Research? not one of the mainstream pollsters, and it looks dodgy to me )
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #21 - Jul 25^th, 2016 at 4:11pm Michael Moore, whom I once admired strange to say, has added some more comment in the last 24 hours or so following the Dems VP pick. He believes that the Sanders millenials & others are going to stay home even more so now, which of course is as good as a vote for Trump.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #22 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 7:54am July 25 Nevada Trump/Clinton 43/38 Ohio. Trump/Clint. 45/45
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Reply #23 - Jul 27^th, 2016 at 2:38pm

Tuesday in Philadelphia at the Democratic National Convention in an interview with Politico, former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D-PA) said Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s message on trade was “resonating with white blue collar workers” in his home state, which according to him Pennsylvania was “in play.”

Rendell said, “I warn Democrats Donald Trump is giving a message that is resonating with white blue collar workers who worked in factory who worked on construction crews. We would be naive if we didn’t understand that exists So this state is in play.”

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #24 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:21am July 28 Penn Trump/Clinton 41/50 July 26 Missouri Trump/Clinton 47/37 Kansas 44/27
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Reply #25 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:32am

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:21am:

July 28
Penn Trump/Clinton 41/50

July 26

Missouri Trump/Clinton 47/37
Kansas 44/27

You shouldn't bother looking at these polls - the methodology is constantly being changed to engineer a lead for Hilary, thereby encouraging sheep to follow their chosen herd.

There was no excitement for the candidate to begin with, a string of scandals, a nightmare of a convention which was empty apart from paid seat warmers and protesters, amid evidence of vote-rigging which has lost her over half of bernies votes, and her lead somehow increases?

It's all lies bogey. You're half-way unplugged, don't go back in.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #26 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:36am No No. There are many pollsters out there who delivered pretty accurately during the primaries. I'm already ignoring Reuters/Ipsos.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #27 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:44am bogarde73 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:36am: No No. There are many pollsters out there who delivered pretty accurately during the primaries. I'm already ignoring Reuters/Ipsos. So you're aware of reuters "reformulating" their polls, but what are your sources for the polling numbers you posted?
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Reply #28 - Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:56am

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bogarde73 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2016 at 10:36am:

No No. There are many pollsters out there who delivered pretty accurately during the primaries.
I'm already ignoring Reuters/Ipsos.

So you're aware of reuters "reformulating" their polls, but what are your sources for the polling numbers you posted?

You can see them all on RealClear Polls - Rasmussen, Suffolk, Gravis etc etc

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: The swing state polls Reply #29 - Aug 4^th, 2016 at 5:46pm 1/8 Penn T/C. 45/49 2/8 Nevada. T/C 40/41 Oklahoma 53/29 3/8 Nth Carol. T/C. 46/42
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