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Coalition Collapsing Already
Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Liberal MPs are showing open defiance over the government’s “bad” and “retrospective” raid on superannuation accounts after Malcolm Turnbull yesterday ruled out revising the controversial budget measures before presenting them to parliament.

Tasmanian senator Eric Abetz today said the Coalition had taken “a big kick up the pants” at the election and the Australian people would expect the government to “recalibrate” those measures that were announced in the budget without being “properly ventilated” in the party room.

“The retrospectivity of the $500,000 concessional cap, things like that, I think are matters that did hurt us within our base and it’s bad policy,” Senator Abetz, a former cabinet minister, told ABC radio.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/federal-election-2016-liberal-m...

Perhaps Coalition MP Jobson Groth is concerned about his super future

Interesting that two papers are now commenting on the war within the Coalition ranks on this. They cannot even get consensus on their own policies Watch this one die in the bum

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #1 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:43pm Jobsun wont be impressed with such dissent , will jobsun last a month ?
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #2 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:44pm The LNP must be copying the ALP's mad hatter antics.
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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8309 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #3 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:46pm Its time wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:43pm: Jobsun wont be impressed with such dissent , will jobsun last a month ? If I were Jobsun Growth I would be worried too. Looks like the Libs have piddled the AAA rating uyp the wall so money lending rates will rise
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Reply #4 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:53pm

Vic wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:46pm:

Its time wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

Jobsun wont be impressed with such dissent , will jobsun last a month ?

If I were Jobsun Growth I would be worried too. Looks like the Libs have piddled the AAA rating uyp the wall so money lending rates will rise

Not looking good , jobsun sending us down the gurgler

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96346	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #5 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 2:03pm juliar wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:44pm: The LNP must be copying the ALP's mad hatter antics. Oh, I know.
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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8309 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #6 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 2:14pm Geez, they are not even sworn in yet! Can they be held responsible in not necessarily in Government? Does Sir Peter need to wave the magic wand and sprinkle the fairy dust?
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Reply #7 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 2:41pm

Vic wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Liberal MPs are showing open defiance over the government’s “bad” and “retrospective” raid on superannuation accounts after Malcolm Turnbull yesterday ruled out revising the controversial budget measures before presenting them to parliament.

Tasmanian senator Eric Abetz today said the Coalition had taken “a big kick up the pants” at the election and the Australian people would expect the government to “recalibrate” those measures that were announced in the budget without being “properly ventilated” in the party room.

“The retrospectivity of the $500,000 concessional cap, things like that, I think are matters that did hurt us within our base and it’s bad policy,” Senator Abetz, a former cabinet minister, told ABC radio.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/federal-election-2016-liberal-m...

Perhaps Coalition MP Jobson Groth is concerned about his super future

Interesting that two papers are now commenting on the war within the Coalition ranks on this. They cannot even get consensus on their own policies Watch this one die in the bum

A party divided..

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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8309 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #8 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 6:05pm Apparently Jobson Growth isn't interested in the Leadership. But it looks like someone will be back soon
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #9 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 8:11pm The Coalition run the country as if they are running in a three-legged race.
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Reply #10 - Jul 14^th, 2016 at 9:56pm

juliar wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

The LNP must be copying the ALP's mad hatter antics.

No: all bias aside they have form - it is a Liberal tradition for the ministers to stand by the leaders policy in the election campaign and then turn him into a liar after the election.

They did the same thing to Abbott on the maternity pay deal. All his ministers were happy to stand by the policy in the election campaign as a vote catcher but as soon as they were elected it was a very different story, they shot their leader promises down in short order.

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Reply #11 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 8:56am

Its time wrote on Jul 14^th, 2016 at 1:43pm:

Jobsun wont be impressed with such dissent , will jobsun last a month ?

He's a secret shoo-in for the PM spot - Tony is just a blind or decoy runner so they can sneak Jobson in on us while we focus on Tones....

At least nobody has offered to breathe life into the rotting political corpse of Hockey and return him to the Treasury...

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Reply #12 - Jul 15^th, 2016 at 9:01am

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32061232/cormann-defends-super-changes/#page1

Here's a good laugh for you on a cold Friday morning.. Cormie defending the super changes (please supply accent for mirth enhancement) ....

Ve haff ein Belchian exshplainink to uz how zer zuperannuation iss for our own gut, chust like der kas chamber......

"Cabinet minister Mathias Cormann insists superannuation tax concessions need to be addressed amid a growing backbencher revolt over the proposed changes.

Several conservative backbenchers have raised concerns about the $500,000 cap on non-concessional contributions backdated to 2007, with Cory Bernardi calling for the proposal to be examined by a Senate committee.

Senator Cormann defended the changes, telling Sky News on Friday that tax concessions were never designed to help people get rich.

"More and more income generated in Australia was entirely outside the income tax system attracting zero per cent income tax - that is just not structurally sustainable".

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Hoss Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 761 talbot victoria Gender:	Re: Coalition Collapsing Already Reply #13 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 10:45am HI ALL Nobody but the rich n politicians that is.
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Reply #14 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 11:29pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 15^th, 2016 at 9:01am:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32061232/cormann-defends-super-changes/#page1

Here's a good laugh for you on a cold Friday morning.. Cormie defending the super changes (please supply accent for mirth enhancement) ....

Ve haff ein Belchian exshplainink to uz how zer zuperannuation iss for our own gut, chust like der kas chamber......

"Cabinet minister Mathias Cormann insists superannuation tax concessions need to be addressed amid a growing backbencher revolt over the proposed changes.

Several conservative backbenchers have raised concerns about the $500,000 cap on non-concessional contributions backdated to 2007, with Cory Bernardi calling for the proposal to be examined by a Senate committee.

Senator Cormann defended the changes, telling Sky News on Friday that tax concessions were never designed to help people get rich.

"More and more income generated in Australia was entirely outside the income tax system attracting zero per cent income tax - that is just not structurally sustainable".

telling Sky News on Friday that tax concessions were never designed to help people get rich.

What a dumb thing for him to say, it does not help people to get rich. It only benefits people who are wealthy in the first place.

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