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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	The 28 Pages Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:31am Apparently, the report released a couple of days ago does not exonerate the Sauds, even though the liberal press initially said the ragheads were squeaky-clean. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/16/911-report-release-saudi-arabia-...
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The4thEstate

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Re: The 28 Pages
Reply #1 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:59am

issuevoter wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:31am:

Apparently, the report released a couple of days ago does not exonerate the Sauds, even though the liberal press initially said the ragheads were squeaky-clean.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/16/911-report-release-saudi-arabia-...

Imagine that -- the Obama White House and the liberal American press sticking up for the Saudis. Here's my shocked face: Shocked

The last paragraph of that story may be the most significant, especially the part I've highlighted:

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“The trail of evidence may be a little cold, but it’s time for a complete reappraisal of our relationship with the Saudis,” said Lehman, who said the Bush and Obama administrations had both failed to pressure the Saudi government to cut its ties to a fanatical, violent branch of Islam known as Wahhabism. “This is going to be a matter for the next president.”

Gee, isn't it a good thing that modern Western society isn't suffering the repercussions of that failure? Especially this week.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: The 28 Pages Reply #2 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 10:14am Well oh well... Seems like the Bush Administration might have had more on the Saudis than al Qaeda and Saddam...
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Re: The 28 Pages
Reply #3 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 10:37am

The4thEstate wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:59am:

issuevoter wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 8:31am:

Apparently, the report released a couple of days ago does not exonerate the Sauds, even though the liberal press initially said the ragheads were squeaky-clean.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/16/911-report-release-saudi-arabia-...

Imagine that -- the Obama White House and the liberal American press sticking up for the Saudis. Here's my shocked face: Shocked

The last paragraph of that story may be the most significant, especially the part I've highlighted:

Quote:

“The trail of evidence may be a little cold, but it’s time for a complete reappraisal of our relationship with the Saudis,” said Lehman, who said the Bush and Obama administrations had both failed to pressure the Saudi government to cut its ties to a fanatical, violent branch of Islam known as Wahhabism. “This is going to be a matter for the next president.”

Gee, isn't it a good thing that modern Western society isn't suffering the repercussions of that failure? Especially this week.

The camel piss drinking rag heads have spread their aids like Islam to Australia. No wonder Lakemba Mosque is a hotbed of Islamist terror activity

http://www.smh.com.au/national/wikileaks-saudi-cables-reveal-secret-saudi-govern...

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Re: The 28 Pages
Reply #4 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 11:19am

Although much of the evidence in the report is described as preliminary and was later discounted or dismissed by the independent 9/11 commission, the congressional report will raise new concern that US officials, determined to preserve Washington’s diplomatic and financial ties to the Saudi Arabia, attempted to cover up evidence that might have implicated the Saudis.

another small piece missed..

why would you trust anyone today. Angry

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Re: The 28 Pages
Reply #5 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 11:43am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 17^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

Well oh well...

Seems like the Bush Administration might have had more on the Saudis than al Qaeda and Saddam...

A plot straight out of some Middle Eastern epic...

What could have been so easy a deduction has wound its way through a labyrinth of countries, wars and statesmen (making an arse of them all on the way through)...

All (as it may turn out) to protect the US-Saudi relationship which appears to be a sham anyway...

And hardly surprising that it is a sham (more of a disgrace that the relationship exists at all)... Take a look... The world's greatest democracy, that has fought for and defended the cause of democratic ideals (including liberty and justice for all) for 240 years, partnered up with an uber-Islamic nation ruled by a repressive, tyrannical, Dark Ages monarchy... Money and oil make bedfellows of angels and demons.

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Reply #6 - Jul 17^th, 2016 at 11:54am

Wahhabism, the branch of Islam which is practised in Saudi Arabia, is also what drives every Islamic terrorist group from IS to Boko Haram.

Essentially they have a vision that the world should only ever exist as it did at the time of Mohamed's death. No room for progress in religious ideas, culture, reason or questioning.
They do seem to have no problem with modern weapons though.

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