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Reply #120 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 2:30pm

Belgarion wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

Show me where I defended anyone? When you read my post for the first I ever you'll see I said all religion is bullsh it.
I said how dare Cristians pretend their religion is real and Islam is not.
They're all religions, that doesn't mean they are all true though. Roll Eyes

You defend radical Islam when you attempt to draw a moral equivalence between it and Christianity. Compared to Islam, Christian fundamentalists make up a tiny minority of the whole, and an even tinier minority ever resort to violence. When they do they are roundly condemned by other Christians.
You also defend Islam when you accuse people like Pauline Hanson of inciting violence. The only violence ever connected to her and One Nation comes from the SJWs and Islamic apologists who try to silence her.
You may not think you are supporting Islam, but you are in fact one of the 'useful fools' who in their efforts to appear unbiased effectively give support to this cult.

So you got nothing but lies hey? Thought so.
Go and play on the highway, child. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #121 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 2:52pm

Belgarion wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

Show me where I defended anyone? When you read my post for the first I ever you'll see I said all religion is bullsh it.
I said how dare Cristians pretend their religion is real and Islam is not.
They're all religions, that doesn't mean they are all true though. Roll Eyes

You defend radical Islam when you attempt to draw a moral equivalence between it and Christianity. Compared to Islam, Christian fundamentalists make up a tiny minority of the whole, and an even tinier minority ever resort to violence. When they do they are roundly condemned by other Christians.
You also defend Islam when you accuse people like Pauline Hanson of inciting violence. The only violence ever connected to her and One Nation comes from the SJWs and Islamic apologists who try to silence her.
You may not think you are supporting Islam, but you are in fact one of the 'useful fools' who in their efforts to appear unbiased effectively give support to this cult.

Your stupid analogy is akin to saying you hate all Catholics because of the IRA. JUST DUMB UNEDUCATED DRIVAL. Roll Eyes

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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #122 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 5:45pm

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what a load of hogwash ... how many muslims do you know that want Sharia law Cods? I grew up surrounded by muslims. Never did one want to stone me, they didn't behead me, they didn't rape any of the women folk or kids, there were no examples of sharia law in 30 years that I spent surrounded by them.

Shariah law is the opposite of vigilantism John. What you describe is in no way evidence of what Muslims want. I bet in that entire 30 year period you never asked any of them whether they want shariah law, yet you are more than happy to speak on behalf of all of them. That's kind of bigoted don't you think?

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seriously?...... religion is responsible for more deaths throughout history than any other single cause ... stop being so naive

Old age? Greed? War? Mean people? Famine? Drought?

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WHo said they're ALL wonderful people? I wouldn't say that about any race or religion. I take people at face value, not based on what someone else who shared their religion or skin colour may have done on the other side of the globe or country.

In other words, you read an aweful into what they think based on what you do not observe them doing.

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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #123 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 5:49pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 12:39pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 12:14pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 11:47am:

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 11:40am:

I note it's often the bible bashers that hate Islam the most. Im not biased I hate all fairy in the sky bullsh it.
If we followed Hansons rhetoric all the Catholics would be deported because the IRA are religious terrorists.
What I find just as concerning as fundamental Islam is fundamental Christianity and their demands if you come here you believe our shi t.
Hanson and her followers are the most likely to create terror acts here as a direct result of their naive insular antagonistic behaviour. How dare they say Islam is not a religion and take some high and mighty upper ground. Losers, the lot of them. You need to get a life and instead of bothering about what happens when you die( the worms eat you or you become charcoal) live the only life you'll ever get here and now. Roll Eyes

One thing for sure, the stupid bitch is back and intent on dividing the nation yet again with her ill informed screeching that just gives the loony fringe air time they don't deserve.

Just because you want to bend over and take it doesnt mean the rest of us do. we live in a largely Christian country with an inherited Christian culture and a society based on western Christian values. Like it or not, you and your quisling mates are the minority despite the loud noises you make, if you dont like it then leave our country.

According to the last census numbers you're wrong, many people ( around a third)are not stupid enough to believe in fairies in the sky, it doesn't surprise me that you are though.
If you don't like living in a secular society( as Australia is) leave, we'd be better off without bible bashing nutters that lower the IQ levels.

one third may not describe themselves as Christian, however that leaves 2 thirds, even a fool like you should be able to understand thats a majority. Secondly out of that allegedly non Christian one third a substantial majority of those come from as western background with Christian values. If you dont like it, bad luck. Live somewhere else. This is a christian country and that is not defined by how many people go to church.

You're not very bright are you? This is a secular country, chump. Roll Eyes

btw your math is about as good as your comprehension, the two thirds that consider themselves a religion are not all Christians. You're not very good at this are you?

Majority Christian country, secular government chump. Like it or leave.

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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #125 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 6:37pm

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 2:52pm:

Belgarion wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 1:14pm:

Show me where I defended anyone? When you read my post for the first I ever you'll see I said all religion is bullsh it.
I said how dare Cristians pretend their religion is real and Islam is not.
They're all religions, that doesn't mean they are all true though. Roll Eyes

You defend radical Islam when you attempt to draw a moral equivalence between it and Christianity. Compared to Islam, Christian fundamentalists make up a tiny minority of the whole, and an even tinier minority ever resort to violence. When they do they are roundly condemned by other Christians.
You also defend Islam when you accuse people like Pauline Hanson of inciting violence. The only violence ever connected to her and One Nation comes from the SJWs and Islamic apologists who try to silence her.
You may not think you are supporting Islam, but you are in fact one of the 'useful fools' who in their efforts to appear unbiased effectively give support to this cult.

Your stupid analogy is akin to saying you hate all Catholics because of the IRA. JUST DUMB UNEDUCATED DRIVAL. Roll Eyes

It is spelled 'drivel' old boy. Perhaps you should work on your own education rather than acting the dhimmi. Grin

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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #126 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:14pm

‘Sonia Kruger isn’t evil’: Waleed Aly calls for a stop to the cycle of outrage

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WALEED Aly has waded into the debate over Sonia Kruger’s controversial comments about banning Muslims, saying the Today Extra host “isn’t evil” and calling on people to stop the cycle of outrage.

In an editorial on Tuesday night’s edition of The Project, Aly questioned the national pile-on that follows situations like the one Kruger found herself in yesterday, comparing it to a spinning Gravitron.

“I could sit here and pull apart Sonia Kruger’s statement,” he said in the editorial, co-written by supervising producer Tom Whitty. “I could point out that Japan has had its share of terror attacks, or that the UN has attributed Japan’s low crime rate to low inequality and low gun ownership. I could point out that if Sonia is afraid, logically, as a woman in Australia, she has a much higher chance of being murdered by a man she knows, than a Muslim from another country.

“And I could do all of this with the best intentions, but really, all I’d be doing is encouraging the inertia of outrage that spins the Gravitron that we’re all on. I’d be fuelling the same cycle that has led to absolutely horrendous personal attacks on Sonia in the last 24 hours.

“Sonia Kruger isn’t evil. She’s scared and she’s trying to make sense of the world. Yesterday, she admitted to not feeling safe. How do you think she feels now? And how do you expect her to react?”

Arguing everyone is responsible for how these situations play out, Aly said there were two options to take when presented with an “outrageous opinion”: Destruction or construction.

“We can react emotionally, carelessly, and with little genuine critical thought, and we can destroy a perceived enemy in the hope that it will neutralise the threat that is making us feel unsafe,” he said. “This is the destructive choice.

“Or when we are presented with what we perceive as an outrageous opinion, we can consider what motivated that person, try to understand their fear, and empathise with how they came to their conclusion. The truth is, what motivates them, is fear. And fear is one thing we all share.”
Aly said he was “scared too” and “afraid for this country”, adding: “I’m terrified about what it is doing to my friends and family. Honestly, I’m scared about where I belong.”

Pointing out the fears he, Kruger and Pauline Hanson each have, Aly said it was important to understand how to deal with that fear. The host also pleaded to replace the cycle of viral outrage with forgiveness.

“You needn’t be calling for the incarceration of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, to act destructively,” he said. “While it feels good to choose destruction, right now I think we need to try construction. I’m not saying you should be silent in the face of bigotry. But when you do engage with someone you disagree with, I’m talking about assuming the best in people, showing others radical generosity in the face of their hostility. Which is the much harder choice because it demands much more restraint, patience, and strength.”

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims Reply #127 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:25pm Waleed Aly for PM!
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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #129 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:30pm

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Shariah law is the opposite of vigilantism John. What you describe is in no way evidence of what Muslims want. I bet in that entire 30 year period you never asked any of them whether they want shariah law, yet you are more than happy to speak on behalf of all of them. That's kind of bigoted don't you think?

Not quite FD. I'm not speaking on their behalf. I'm speaking on my behalf. Based on my experience. I would have thought that if any of them were proponents of Sharia law I would have heard something. You know what teenagers are like, they'll boast about anything. Yet not once did anyone mention bringing in Sharia law ... Funny that ain't it?

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 5:45pm:

Old age? Greed? War? Mean people? Famine? Drought?

really? you want to use old age? Grin

You mention wars, but wars being fought over oil are a fairly new concept FD. Many wars for the last 2000 years were fought over because of religious belief.

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 5:45pm:

In other words, you read an aweful into what they think based on what you do not observe them doing.

huh?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims Reply #130 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:31pm Gordon wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:29pm: mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:25pm: Waleed Aly for PM! Troll Now Gordy, is that any way to talk? ou been drinking from Grendel's goony bag?
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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #131 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:35pm

mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:29pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Waleed Aly for PM!

Troll

Now Gordy, is that any way to talk?

ou been drinking from Grendel's goony bag?

No you're trolling to elicit negative responses about Waleed so you can play defender's of the universe.

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Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims
Reply #132 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:37pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:29pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

Waleed Aly for PM!

Troll

Now Gordy, is that any way to talk?

ou been drinking from Grendel's goony bag?

No you're trolling to elicit negative responses about Waleed so you can play defender's of the universe.

No. I really want him to be PM.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35267 Gender:	Re: Sonia Kruger: No more Muslims Reply #133 - Jul 19^th, 2016 at 10:38pm Don't you think his sentiments were excellent Gordy? What is our problem with them?
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