mothra wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:13am:


Okay - you've had your 15 seconds of fame - now off you go back into the woodwork.

(tsk. Nothing worse than an aging hippie).

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:54am:



I don't give a sh1t about the Sunnis and the Shia's or Syria and their sectarian violence, I'm talking about the terrorist attacks in the West. I told you, the arabs can either sort it out or kill each other. Intervention hasn't worked and I see no reason to think that further intervention will work in the future.

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:54am:


who mentioned the coup? If you must know I suspect the coup was staged so that Erdogan could eliminate some opponents and give himself more powers.

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:54am:


of course they are, just as the west is responsible for theirs.

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:54am:


ok, so now you're resorting to falsely verballing me and and hysteria  ....

nice playing with you

Muslims are attacking the west because the west attacked them first?

The French have been one of the least involved in the Middle East. The USA have looked for any reason to get involved often against the protest of France. Yet France has been the one getting hit over and over again by Muslims from everywhere; home grown, Middle Eastern, Eastern European, North African, etc. So where exactly is the connection between the more you bomb them the more they bomb back? Why is France being hit harder than others in the west despite interfering far less in the Middle East?

If this is just revenge then there are many other countries that should be higher up the list.

Quantum wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 12:02pm:



you're the only one to say 'first' .... the west has been getting itself involved in middle eastern affairs, in some way shape or form,  for over 100 yrs. At this point arguing who was first is irrelevant.

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 1:13pm:


Then how does pulling out fix anything? We can pull forces out tomorrow, Israel is still there. So as long as Israel is still there they are going to keep blowing shlt up in the West? What if we pull out and Israel gets destroyed, do they keep blowing shlt up because we buy their oil and therefore have interest in the area? What if we pull out, Israel is gone, we cut off all business in the area, what's the next issue? We need to stop using the suez? Get rid of the border patrols between Greece and turkey? The borders between south Eastern Europe and the rest of the continent? Is Russia considered a western nation from the perspective of these clowns, and if so, does the west get bombed every time another skirmish happens in the southern parts of Russia?

Pulling out and basically building a political and trade wall around the Middle East isn't going to do shlt. Islam doesnt want to be contained but wants to spread to all parts of the world for the glory of Allah. Problem is the fanatical sand monkeys are out of their dunes and have been invited with arms open into western nations. These are Islamic fanatics that won't tolerate having infidels living on Allah's planet. Do you really think these walking time bombs are just going to settle down and live normal lives in western countries if we simple pull out of the Middle East? When pigs fry at Mecca!

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 1:35pm:


Woke up to what and when? Muslims have been blowing shlt up in the west long before 2011. Many of the spring nations weren't even big on oil sales to the west.

Germany lost because of oil? The Soviets and Americans were pumping out planes and tanks like Germany was making bullets. The soviets were sending troops in numbers that were greater than some nations populations. The Germans were sticking boys on the lines because they had no one else left. And let's not forget that their leadership went totally nuts by the end anyway. Oil shortages was the least of their troubles, especially with their access to synthetics.   

Karnal wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 1:23pm:


Like I said earlier, the arabs will need to sort their poo out themselves.