freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:38am:


surely it's not to  difficult for you?

John Smith wrote on Jul 25^th, 2016 at 9:30pm:



freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:38am:


you should write fairy tales for a living. You keep forgetting that what you are seeing now is a direct RESULT of the Wests intervention. If the west hadn't made up faux evidence of WMD in order to show them who's boss, ISIS would not exist



freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:38am:



and yet you still haven't been able to pick one

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:



I'll agree, it's not an easy one. But the courts consider motive all the time and they seem to do OK most of the time

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:


You sure you don't want to go back further in history? It can only help your cause.

I'm talking about invading Iraq.

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:


Isis was formed by Saddams former generals. They would never have dared try  it with Saddam in charge.

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 12:21pm:


yeah ... cause that's working well isn't it. So well in fact that you dedicate almost every comment you make on this forum to telling us how they're trying to kill us infidels.

And my solution was for the ME, not Israel. I don't give a rats arse either way about Israel.

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:


they'd probably rely on any evidence they have and common sense  ... same as they do when they discuss motive for any other crime

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:


I was saying that your 'predictions' for what will happen are a fairy tale

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:


he had a good enough track record to led me to believe so

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:



work better? to know if it works 'better', you'd first have to try it ...

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 5:53pm:



they are one of many in the ME.

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Can you give some examples? It seems to me that the evidence would point towards an actual crime, and that the motive, and the fact that the person read a passage from the Koran, is unnecessary to prosecute that crime.

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What predictions?

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No. Some ideas are so idiotic there is no need to try them to know they are idiotic. Only a fool would go around deliberately doing stupid things just to prove they are in fact stupid. Fortunately for us, our politicians do not treat foreign policy like a science experiment.

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Ah, so does your final solution apply to them?

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:



no, out politicians do whatever the Americans ask them to do.

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 6:58pm:


not sure why you struggle so much with it?? I didn't propose a 'final solution' as you call it, I said we leave them to sort their poo out. It applies to everyone in the ME.



and you still haven't explained yourself FD .... if you are so enamored by the current policies and you believe it's working and no better options are possible, why do you spend so much time on here telling us that we have to stop the muslims? You realise that our current policies aren't about stopping the muslims, right?

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:



I think that is very unlikely, but so as to amuse you I'll play along .... then we get involved

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:


so for you a policy that has been an abject failure is 'better' than a solution that hasn't been tried? 

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Why is it unlikely? The whole reason we, the Americans, the Russians, the UK etc are getting dragged back into this is because neither Assad nor Iraq are capable of handling ISIS on their own.

And what makes the middle east so special that you would happily sit back and watch it descend into chaos and only draw the line when it spreads further. There are equally dysfunctional places throughout Africa. Why not let ISIS swallow them also?

And what are you going to do about the millions of refugees and terrorists streaming out of the middle east ahead of the advancing Caliphate? Build a wall?

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There are far greater levels of failure that you are striving for. Are you really so naive that you could not see it getting a whole lot worse very quickly? Is that why you are so keen to lurch towards an idiotic policy that you have not thought through? Because it never occurred to you that it could be worse?

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 9:12pm:



and how many of those are we bombing?

are we worrying about African terrorists?

See, you wanted proof my suggestion would work, and now you've gone and proven it for yourself.

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 9:12pm:



close down the borders.

freediver wrote on Jul 26^th, 2016 at 9:12pm:


says the guy who thinks burying our head in the sand and continuing to do the same thing we've done for the last 100 yrs will suddenly wield a different result simply because he wishes it so  .

things are getting worse FD ... the more we get involved, the worse it is becoming. We went from 1 million refugees fleeing Syria pre western bombing, to 13 million after we joined in to 'help'.