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Re: a lot of people agree with Sonia
Reply #90 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:59am

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 11:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 10:06pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 9:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 9:38pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 9:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 10:37pm:

He's reaching out so as to avoid taking responsibility

what is he responsible for?

Gandalf, you are wasting your time with us kuffars. Your job is among your own co-religionists. But you are just not up to arguing with them because you are afraid, like the rest of us, that they will harm you in the name of Islam. It is easier and safer for you, for

Waleed Aly

, for the mufti and the rest of the PC Muslim brigade to bang on about the 'islamophobia' of godless kuffar who will never harm you beyond calling all of you gutless cowards for not directing your efforts where you KNOW you should.

Shouting 'islamophobia is cheap and discredited. Dissuading the jihadis is dangerous. So all of you choose the cheap and discredited because you are afraid.

I'm not Gandalf you twit ... now what is Walleed responsible for?

For Islamic terrorism.

He is a Muslim.

He is no more responsible for Islamic terrorism than you are responsible for the acts of the KKK or the IRA

I do not identify as KKK or IRA.
He does identify as Muslim.

But you do identify as a Christian, the same as the KKK and the Catholics in the IRA

don't move the goal posts just because we're talking about you now. You want to claim he's responsible because they share a religion, then you to are responsible because you share a religion

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: a lot of people agree with Sonia Reply #91 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:08am John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:59am: But you do identify as a Christian, the same as the KKK and the Catholics in the IRA Where in the Bible does it have passages that excuse murderous white jihad against blacks, or Catholics against Protestants?
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Reply #92 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:13am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:38am:

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 9:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 11:49pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 10:37pm:

He's reaching out so as to avoid taking responsibility

what is he responsible for?

Gandalf, you are wasting your time with us kuffars. Your job is among your own co-religionists. But you are just not up to arguing with them because you are afraid, like the rest of us, that they will harm you in the name of Islam. It is easier and safer for you, for

Waleed Aly

, for the mufti and the rest of the PC Muslim brigade to bang on about the 'islamophobia' of godless kuffar who will never harm you beyond calling all of you gutless cowards for not directing your efforts where you KNOW you should.

Shouting 'islamophobia is cheap and discredited. Dissuading the jihadis is dangerous. So all of you choose the cheap and discredited because you are afraid.

Excellent post.

Until gangalf and Waleed and all the other Damage Control apologist 'engineers' for Islam admit to the fact that Islam is the source of all this murderous jihadi mayhem - and not the fault of 'Islamophobia', bigotry, racism, or xenophobia on the part of Western countries whose media and governments are overwhelmingly supportive of their Muslim Communities - they'll continue their misdirecting of public attention away from where the fault truly lies.

The West's invasion of Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with the morality that lies behind the Sunni and Shia trying to genocide each other into extinction ever since Saddam's torture chambers went out of business.

The removal of Saddam simply opened up a Pandora's Box of Islamic hostilities that has been brewing for centuries, waiting patiently like a genii in a Magic Lamp for the chance to explode upon the Middle East.

The worst thing about you Herbie is that you always twist a truth to justify yourself ... eMbedded in a sea of ignorance and lies,

Broad side of the barn though.

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Reply #93 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:25am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:08am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:59am:

But you do identify as a Christian, the same as the KKK and the Catholics in the IRA

Where in the Bible does it have passages that excuse murderous white jihad against blacks, or Catholics against Protestants?

Could you 2 leave us Christians and The Holy Bible out of this?

Please continue with the KKK and Catholics. Preferably with vigour.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: a lot of people agree with Sonia Reply #94 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:31am But on the other-hand, the Sacred Texts of Islam have lots of passages that advocate the sort of violence the Muslim activists have been getting up to.
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Reply #95 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:19am

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:59am:

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 11:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 10:06pm:

He is no more responsible for Islamic terrorism than you are responsible for the acts of the KKK or the IRA

I do not identify as KKK or IRA.
He does identify as Muslim.

But you do identify as a Christian, the same as the KKK and the Catholics in the IRA

don't move the goal posts just because we're talking about you now. You want to claim he's responsible because they share a religion, then you to are responsible because you share a religion

Don't be silly again.

And who who defeated the KKK and the IRA? The Americans and the Brits didn't go around telling Muslims that the KKK and the IRA are as much their problems as they are America's and Britain's.

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Reply #96 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:25am

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:19am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 7:59am:

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 11:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 10:06pm:

He is no more responsible for Islamic terrorism than you are responsible for the acts of the KKK or the IRA

I do not identify as KKK or IRA.
He does identify as Muslim.

But you do identify as a Christian, the same as the KKK and the Catholics in the IRA

don't move the goal posts just because we're talking about you now. You want to claim he's responsible because they share a religion, then you to are responsible because you share a religion

Don't be silly again.

And who who defeated the KKK and the IRA? The Americans and the Brits didn't go around telling Muslims that the KKK and the IRA are as much their problems as they are America's and Britain's.

are you forgetting the syrians and all the other muslims who are fighting ISIS? Isis is Americas and Englands problem because the English and US are over there and have been in some way shape or form for since pre WWI .

Farkk off out of the M.E. and leave the muslims to themselves. They'll either sort their poo out or kill each other. Either way, we have no business being there.

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 44707 Gender:	Re: a lot of people agree with Sonia Reply #97 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:32am John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:25am: Farkk off out of the M.E. and leave the muslims to themselves. They'll either sort their poo out or kill each other. Either way, we have no business being there. Fine with me - provided we do not let them come to the West either.
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Reply #98 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:34am

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:25am:

Farkk off out of the M.E. and leave the muslims to themselves. They'll either sort their poo out or kill each other. Either way, we have no business being there.

Fine with me - provided we do not let them come to the West either.

whilst you're dropping bombs on their homes and cities, you have no right to cry when they go look for safer pastures to lay down their roots

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Re: a lot of people agree with Sonia
Reply #99 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:38am

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:34am:

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:25am:

Farkk off out of the M.E. and leave the muslims to themselves. They'll either sort their poo out or kill each other. Either way, we have no business being there.

Fine with me - provided we do not let them come to the West either.

whilst you're dropping bombs on their homes and cities, you have no right to cry when they go look for safer pastures to lay down their roots

Get the timeline right.

We let them come to the West, gave them opportunities - yet they attacked us: we didn't drop bombs on their head, yet they blew up the World Trade Centre in 1996 and then destroyed it in 2001. THEN we dropped bombs on their heads in response to their aggression.

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Reply #100 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:40am

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:34am:

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:25am:

Farkk off out of the M.E. and leave the muslims to themselves. They'll either sort their poo out or kill each other. Either way, we have no business being there.

Fine with me - provided we do not let them come to the West either.

whilst you're dropping bombs on their homes and cities, you have no right to cry when they go look for safer pastures to lay down their roots

How do you not see the sheer stupidity of this?

Make enemies, then give said enemies special access to allow them to damage you. Its like getting into the ring, and dropping your hands and presenting your chin - the only possible outcome is getting knocked out. Why would you do that?

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Reply #101 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:47am

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:38am:

Get the timeline right.

we have been in the ME in some way shape or form for about 100yrs. There is nothing wrong with my timeline.

We've been dropping bombs on their heads for almost all that time. This didn't start with 9-11, this started way way earlier ... and every time the Wests solution has been to send more troops and drop more bombs. Every time they send more troops and drop more bombs, the problem gets bigger. It hasn't work in the past and it won't work in the future. Unless the west is prepared to go in with a scorched earth policy (which they won't) and decimate the M.E., selective targeting doesn't work. It's time they tried something new, and got out of the ME altogether.

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Reply #102 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:48am

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Make enemies, then give said enemies special access to allow them to damage you. Its like getting into the ring, and dropping your hands and presenting your chin - the only possible outcome is getting knocked out. Why would you do that?

I don't want any 'enemies' to be given access, it's the millions of innocent men women and children that need our help. That you don't believe their religion is not an excuse to deny that help

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Reply #103 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:55am

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:48am:

... wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:40am:

Make enemies, then give said enemies special access to allow them to damage you. Its like getting into the ring, and dropping your hands and presenting your chin - the only possible outcome is getting knocked out. Why would you do that?

I don't want any 'enemies' to be given access, it's the millions of innocent men women and children that need our help. That you don't believe their religion is not an excuse to deny that help

Religion is just one piece of the puzzle. Bottom line is that the islamic world is a separate entity to the west. They are our neighbours - we can get along well but you still wouldnt invite them to move in.

My people come first.

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Reply #104 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:10am

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:47am:

Frank wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:38am:

Get the timeline right.

we have been in the ME in some way shape or form for about 100yrs. There is nothing wrong with my timeline.

The ottoman's fought with the Central Powers against the Triple Entente in WWI one hundred years ago.

Maybe they should have kept their noses out European affairs?

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