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Reply #30 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:05am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21st, 2016 at 11:12pm:
I love it when a boofhead like you thinks a current technology will not be surpassed for 100 years. 100 years ago, passenger air travel did not exist. nor TV nor anything electronic.

fibre wil be bypassed long before 100 years goes by. neutrino-based data transfer will destroy ANY data transmission technology



neutrino?   Grin Grin Grin Grin

why don't we just wait for the technology to teleport
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Reply #31 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:48pm
 
... wrote on Jul 21st, 2016 at 7:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21st, 2016 at 7:39pm:
... wrote on Jul 21st, 2016 at 7:35pm:
Can you see the cabinet from your house?


yep. now comes your comment about VDSL and distance.   There are three nodes in my street.


Wouldn't it be great if everyone were so lucky?



Ultimately, everyone will be. I am not the first FTTN installation int he country after all.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #32 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 1:49pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 8:05am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 21st, 2016 at 11:12pm:
I love it when a boofhead like you thinks a current technology will not be surpassed for 100 years. 100 years ago, passenger air travel did not exist. nor TV nor anything electronic.

fibre wil be bypassed long before 100 years goes by. neutrino-based data transfer will destroy ANY data transmission technology



neutrino?   Grin Grin Grin Grin

why don't we just wait for the technology to teleport


FTTN is here now and coming to a hovel near you.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #33 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:44pm
 
Lucky you for living <400 m from a node, with no other subscribers (yet).  But... you see, 100/40 is all you are ever going to get.
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Reply #34 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:55pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:44pm:
Lucky you for living <400 m from a node, with no other subscribers (yet).  But... you see, 100/40 is all you are ever going to get. 


I rounded mine up, just for longy....

24/5......

That's with a node approx. 500m away.
No fibre to the node.
And 43 year old copper....




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Reply #35 - Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:34pm
 
Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #36 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:06am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:44pm:
Lucky you for living <400 m from a node, with no other subscribers (yet).  But... you see, 100/40 is all you are ever going to get. 


no other subscribers? you know this because....?  and do you think fibre is able to avoid over-subscription because it is some kind of magic technology that can deliver more internet services at the end of the line than is put in at the beginning?

100/40 is already way more than I need. But if I ever need more, I can simply run fibre to the node from my house. Of course I will ahve to actually PAY for it - a concept that losers like you cant cope with.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #37 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:07am
 
Lobo wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 4:55pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 2:44pm:
Lucky you for living <400 m from a node, with no other subscribers (yet).  But... you see, 100/40 is all you are ever going to get. 


I rounded mine up, just for longy....

24/5......

That's with a node approx. 500m away.
No fibre to the node.
And 43 year old copper....






poor diddums... when you get FTTN you too can get 100/40
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Reply #38 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:08am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:
Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh Huh Huh


and the original promise of the FTTH NBN was....??  thats right./ utterly unachievable and utterly failed. It is a massive task that no one has been able to get on schedule.
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Reply #39 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:16am
 
Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .
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Reply #40 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:22am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:16am:
Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .


please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006. 

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet.  How much economic activity is generated int he family home?  PRECIOUS LITTLE.  And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well.  so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #41 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:24am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:
Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh Huh Huh


That promise was never possible, virtually nobody has a 25 M connection on the NBN.
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Reply #42 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:30am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:24am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:
Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh Huh Huh


That promise was never possible, virtually nobody has a 25 M connection on the NBN.


nobody??  you mean when I was offered 12/25/50/100 internet that was all a lie?  the measured 90Mbps connection i currently have is all a lie and imaginary?

The fact is that a majority choose 12 because most people dont need more especially since in a dual income house they are only home a few hours a day in which to use it.

try again. Your hysteria got in the say of truth.  again.
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Reply #43 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:31am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:22am:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:16am:
Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .


please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006. 

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet.  How much economic activity is generated int he family home?  PRECIOUS LITTLE.  And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well.  so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.


10% of what you say is correct in a narrow minded sort of short sighted way.

I know a bit about fibre as do you so I know you business comments are founded but you fail to consider future business models. For example I currently support 200 plus employees working from home. There business related home internet speed requirements are genuine. This may well be the way of the future for many people and that is just one example.
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Reply #44 - Jul 23rd, 2016 at 10:02am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:31am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:22am:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 23rd, 2016 at 9:16am:
Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .


please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006. 

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet.  How much economic activity is generated int he family home?  PRECIOUS LITTLE.  And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well.  so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.


10% of what you say is correct in a narrow minded sort of short sighted way.

I know a bit about fibre as do you so I know you business comments are founded but you fail to consider future business models. For example I currently support 200 plus employees working from home. There business related home internet speed requirements are genuine. This may well be the way of the future for many people and that is just one example.


and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that? As someone who has worked from home for most of my career, it is pretty easy to manage things. Imagine what it was like before internet? Yep, we all did it quite fine.

if you 200 employees want to work from home then either they or their employer is responsible for the infrastructure - just as they would be in the office. If the inernet is not fast enough then either pay to get it faster or... WORK IN THE OFFICE.

and why is there this pretence that working from home is an economic boom compared to working the the office?

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude.  when I had dial-up internet, websites still loaded and printer drivers were 2Mb tops. Now, they can be 200-300Mb.

Tell me why FTTN wont serve your stay-at-home workers while FTTH would. the increase in speed id negligible to non-existent.
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