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Reply #45 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:31am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:24am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh

That promise was never possible, virtually nobody has a 25 M connection on the NBN.

nobody?? you mean when I was offered 12/25/50/100 internet that was all a lie? the measured 90Mbps connection i currently have is all a lie and imaginary?

The fact is that a majority choose 12 because most people dont need more especially since in a dual income house they are only home a few hours a day in which to use it.

try again. Your hysteria got in the say of truth. again.

I doubt that the majority choose 12, I would think they choose 25 which is the default, but like you paying for 100 and getting 90 meg people like me paying for 25 meg find that long term they are getting between 18 and 23. My lowest reading was about 2 meg down

Today it is going ok at 23/4.5

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Reply #46 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:02am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:22am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:16am:

Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .

please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006.

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet. How much economic activity is generated int he family home? PRECIOUS LITTLE. And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well. so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.

10% of what you say is correct in a narrow minded sort of short sighted way.

I know a bit about fibre as do you so I know you business comments are founded but you fail to consider future business models. For example I currently support 200 plus employees working from home. There business related home internet speed requirements are genuine. This may well be the way of the future for many people and that is just one example.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that? As someone who has worked from home for most of my career, it is pretty easy to manage things. Imagine what it was like before internet? Yep, we all did it quite fine.

if you 200 employees want to work from home then either they or their employer is responsible for the infrastructure - just as they would be in the office. If the inernet is not fast enough then either pay to get it faster or... WORK IN THE OFFICE.

and why is there this pretence that working from home is an economic boom compared to working the the office?

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude. when I had dial-up internet, websites still loaded and printer drivers were 2Mb tops. Now, they can be 200-300Mb.

Tell me why FTTN wont serve your stay-at-home workers while FTTH would. the increase in speed id negligible to non-existent.

Yes it is adequate for today - still short sighted I see.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that?

Because the went to elections promising that they would ?

Besides telecommunications providers have always provided the necessary infrastructure to the home in support of the service they provide.

These clowns are rolling out a technology that was past its use by date around 2005 and they are in places using infrastructure over head cables which was recognised as being defunct in about 1948 to support it. Most of our competitors around the world have been implementing far superior technology which is the reason that we dropped from about 30th in the world to 60th for internet speed under the Liberal government.

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude

You shoot yourself in the foot here when you understand what this means for Australia. Yes we will find a use for the additional capacity - but the many countries that have a higher speed will find a greater advantage, they will be able to do the things that we can't.

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Re: Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!
Reply #47 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:12am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:24am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh

That promise was never possible, virtually nobody has a 25 M connection on the NBN.

nobody?? you mean when I was offered 12/25/50/100 internet that was all a lie? the measured 90Mbps connection i currently have is all a lie and imaginary?

The fact is that a majority choose 12 because most people dont need more especially since in a dual income house they are only home a few hours a day in which to use it.

try again. Your hysteria got in the say of truth. again.

I doubt that the majority choose 12, I would think they choose 25 which is the default, but like you paying for 100 and getting 90 meg people like me paying for 25 meg find that long term they are getting between 18 and 23. My lowest reading was about 2 meg down

Today it is going ok at 23/4.5

you seem to think that fiber always proved 100% of its rated capacity. you too would be disappointed.

and like it or not, 12Mbps IS the most popular choice because it is the cheapest and a lot of people dont want to paya premium when all they do is facebook and a bit of online shopping.

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Reply #48 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:15am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:22am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:16am:

Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .

please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006.

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet. How much economic activity is generated int he family home? PRECIOUS LITTLE. And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well. so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.

10% of what you say is correct in a narrow minded sort of short sighted way.

I know a bit about fibre as do you so I know you business comments are founded but you fail to consider future business models. For example I currently support 200 plus employees working from home. There business related home internet speed requirements are genuine. This may well be the way of the future for many people and that is just one example.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that? As someone who has worked from home for most of my career, it is pretty easy to manage things. Imagine what it was like before internet? Yep, we all did it quite fine.

if you 200 employees want to work from home then either they or their employer is responsible for the infrastructure - just as they would be in the office. If the inernet is not fast enough then either pay to get it faster or... WORK IN THE OFFICE.

and why is there this pretence that working from home is an economic boom compared to working the the office?

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude. when I had dial-up internet, websites still loaded and printer drivers were 2Mb tops. Now, they can be 200-300Mb.

Tell me why FTTN wont serve your stay-at-home workers while FTTH would. the increase in speed id negligible to non-existent.

Yes it is adequate for today - still short sighted I see.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that?

Because the went to elections promising that they would ?

Besides telecommunications providers have always provided the necessary infrastructure to the home in support of the service they provide.

These clowns are rolling out a technology that was past its use by date around 2005 and they are in places using infrastructure over head cables which was recognised as being defunct in about 1948 to support it. Most of our competitors around the world have been implementing far superior technology which is the reason that we dropped from about 30th in the world to 60th for internet speed under the Liberal government.

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude

You shoot yourself in the foot here when you understand what this means for Australia. Yes we will fins a use for the additional capacity - but the many countries that have a higher speed will find a greater advantage, they will be able to do the things that we can't.

I dont recall telecom providers offering to wire up my house and provide a phone for free. Just like power, gas, water and sewerage services, the suppliers run it past your house and YOU pay to be connected to it plus all the wiring or plumbing etc. And in places like gas where it might not even go pat your house, you get to pay for the distance from the main to your house as well.

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Reply #49 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:17am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:22am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:16am:

Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .

please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006.

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet. How much economic activity is generated int he family home? PRECIOUS LITTLE. And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well. so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.

10% of what you say is correct in a narrow minded sort of short sighted way.

I know a bit about fibre as do you so I know you business comments are founded but you fail to consider future business models. For example I currently support 200 plus employees working from home. There business related home internet speed requirements are genuine. This may well be the way of the future for many people and that is just one example.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that? As someone who has worked from home for most of my career, it is pretty easy to manage things. Imagine what it was like before internet? Yep, we all did it quite fine.

if you 200 employees want to work from home then either they or their employer is responsible for the infrastructure - just as they would be in the office. If the inernet is not fast enough then either pay to get it faster or... WORK IN THE OFFICE.

and why is there this pretence that working from home is an economic boom compared to working the the office?

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude. when I had dial-up internet, websites still loaded and printer drivers were 2Mb tops. Now, they can be 200-300Mb.

Tell me why FTTN wont serve your stay-at-home workers while FTTH would. the increase in speed id negligible to non-existent.

Yes it is adequate for today - still short sighted I see.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that?

Because the went to elections promising that they would ?

Besides telecommunications providers have always provided the necessary infrastructure to the home in support of the service they provide.

These clowns are rolling out a technology that was past its use by date around 2005 and they are in places using infrastructure over head cables which was recognised as being defunct in about 1948 to support it. Most of our competitors around the world have been implementing far superior technology which is the reason that we dropped from about 30th in the world to 60th for internet speed under the Liberal government.

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude

You shoot yourself in the foot here when you understand what this means for Australia. Yes we will fins a use for the additional capacity - but the many countries that have a higher speed will find a greater advantage, they will be able to do the things that we can't.

and do WHAT exactly? this has been the major debating point all along. The current NBN will have the ability for EVERYONE to have 100/40 internet. Now what cant you do with that which Fibre can since fiber is also 100/40? please dont disgrace yourself with 'telehealth' or 'online schooling' - discredited concepts for cities and pretty useless for everyone else as well.

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Reply #51 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:19am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:15am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:02am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:22am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:16am:

Turnbull NBN a absolute winner!!!!

Nice to see Longy all excited to finally have what half the third world has had for a decade. There is another topic talking about 4 year terms and future planning. Here we have a claim that we should be pleased to have spent billions to catch up to the bottom of the pack.

We are finally only 15 years behind with our internet technology, That is correct we lag the world by around 15 years and our country is not going to be competitive in the technical market place .

please point me to the list of THIRD WORLD countries that had 100/40 internet in 2006.

And the basic failure of your argument is the notion that economic output is dependent on RESIDENTIAL internet. How much economic activity is generated int he family home? PRECIOUS LITTLE. And if you think medium to large business has been operating on ADSL for the past ten years then you are delusional. They have had fibre connections for a very long time. They paid for them.

And now actually having superfast internet it is 'fun', but getting my android apps in 5 seconds instead of 2 minutes means what exactly? My emails are no faster - since they were already fast. Sites like this are still relatively slow. piratebay is much faster and presumably, porn is faster too. And if I used netflix that would probably be faster as well. so what?

The irony is that FTTN is delivering virtually the exact same speed that FTTH was and yet you criticse the former and laud the latter.

your political persuasions are overwhelming your ability to think.

10% of what you say is correct in a narrow minded sort of short sighted way.

I know a bit about fibre as do you so I know you business comments are founded but you fail to consider future business models. For example I currently support 200 plus employees working from home. There business related home internet speed requirements are genuine. This may well be the way of the future for many people and that is just one example.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that? As someone who has worked from home for most of my career, it is pretty easy to manage things. Imagine what it was like before internet? Yep, we all did it quite fine.

if you 200 employees want to work from home then either they or their employer is responsible for the infrastructure - just as they would be in the office. If the inernet is not fast enough then either pay to get it faster or... WORK IN THE OFFICE.

and why is there this pretence that working from home is an economic boom compared to working the the office?

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude. when I had dial-up internet, websites still loaded and printer drivers were 2Mb tops. Now, they can be 200-300Mb.

Tell me why FTTN wont serve your stay-at-home workers while FTTH would. the increase in speed id negligible to non-existent.

Yes it is adequate for today - still short sighted I see.

and if you are working from home, why should the government provide the infrastructure to support that?

Because the went to elections promising that they would ?

Besides telecommunications providers have always provided the necessary infrastructure to the home in support of the service they provide.

These clowns are rolling out a technology that was past its use by date around 2005 and they are in places using infrastructure over head cables which was recognised as being defunct in about 1948 to support it. Most of our competitors around the world have been implementing far superior technology which is the reason that we dropped from about 30th in the world to 60th for internet speed under the Liberal government.

And there is the other IT phenomenon that 'work increases to fill the current capacity'. Hard drives increase by an order magnitude and suddenly software sizes increase by... an order of magnitude

You shoot yourself in the foot here when you understand what this means for Australia. Yes we will fins a use for the additional capacity - but the many countries that have a higher speed will find a greater advantage, they will be able to do the things that we can't.

I dont recall telecom providers offering to wire up my house and provide a phone for free. Just like power, gas, water and sewerage services, the suppliers run it past your house and YOU pay to be connected to it plus all the wiring or plumbing etc. And in places like gas where it might not even go pat your house, you get to pay for the distance from the main to your house as well.

well no, thats completely wrong. (again)

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Reply #52 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:24am

... wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18am:

If the governmemt facilitates working from home, they save money on roads and congestion issues.

You could do the same thing by decentralising OFFICES out of the CBD and staggering work hours. And this presumes that many jobs can even be done at home. Most cant. I dont see how childcare or surgery can be done from home.

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Reply #53 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:28am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:24am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh

That promise was never possible, virtually nobody has a 25 M connection on the NBN.

nobody?? you mean when I was offered 12/25/50/100 internet that was all a lie? the measured 90Mbps connection i currently have is all a lie and imaginary?

The fact is that a majority choose 12 because most people dont need more especially since in a dual income house they are only home a few hours a day in which to use it.

try again. Your hysteria got in the say of truth. again.

I doubt that the majority choose 12, I would think they choose 25 which is the default, but like you paying for 100 and getting 90 meg people like me paying for 25 meg find that long term they are getting between 18 and 23. My lowest reading was about 2 meg down

Today it is going ok at 23/4.5

you seem to think that fiber always proved 100% of its rated capacity. you too would be disappointed.

and like it or not, 12Mbps IS the most popular choice because it is the cheapest and a lot of people dont want to paya premium when all they do is facebook and a bit of online shopping.

My comment was only that had he understood what he was promising he could have made a commitment he could deliver.

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Reply #55 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:52am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:28am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 10:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:30am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 9:24am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Tony Abbott 2013 election promise...."All Australians would have 25 Mbps or higher by the end of 2016"!!!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-01/manning-what-went-wrong-with-the-nbn/72104...

Huh

That promise was never possible, virtually nobody has a 25 M connection on the NBN.

nobody?? you mean when I was offered 12/25/50/100 internet that was all a lie? the measured 90Mbps connection i currently have is all a lie and imaginary?

The fact is that a majority choose 12 because most people dont need more especially since in a dual income house they are only home a few hours a day in which to use it.

try again. Your hysteria got in the say of truth. again.

I doubt that the majority choose 12, I would think they choose 25 which is the default, but like you paying for 100 and getting 90 meg people like me paying for 25 meg find that long term they are getting between 18 and 23. My lowest reading was about 2 meg down

Today it is going ok at 23/4.5

you seem to think that fiber always proved 100% of its rated capacity. you too would be disappointed.

and like it or not, 12Mbps IS the most popular choice because it is the cheapest and a lot of people dont want to paya premium when all they do is facebook and a bit of online shopping.

My comment was only that had he understood what he was promising he could have made a commitment he could deliver.

EVERY promise made regarding the NBN - including the NBN's promises themsevles - have failed to materialise. It is the never-ending project that is doomed to consume huge amounts of money and be hopelessly overdue.

NBn literally promised I would be connected in March (this was February). In the end it was May 30.

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Reply #56 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:53am

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:31am:

... wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18am:

If the governmemt facilitates working from home, they save money on roads and congestion issues.

The company I am with saved the rental cost on two floors of two buildings.

and now spends it time complaining that the govt wont pay all the costs of sending employees to work in another location.

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Reply #57 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:55am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:24am:

... wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18am:

If the governmemt facilitates working from home, they save money on roads and congestion issues.

You could do the same thing by decentralising OFFICES out of the CBD and staggering work hours. And this presumes that many jobs can even be done at home. Most cant. I dont see how childcare or surgery can be done from home.

yes, but they are private matters.

Is government responsible for providing infrastruc ture or not? 'Cause if they're not, I can't see what I'm paying them for.

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Reply #58 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 12:00pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:53am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:31am:

... wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18am:

If the governmemt facilitates working from home, they save money on roads and congestion issues.

The company I am with saved the rental cost on two floors of two buildings.

and now spends it time complaining that the govt wont pay all the costs of sending employees to work in another location.

My comments on this have nothing to do with the Liberal poor NBN policy.

It seems that you are happy with your service paying a substantial amount of money to get a service speed that you always claimed could only be needed for porn.

I am also not displeased with the speed of my service (most of the time) However it isn't about us.

The fact remains that we as a country have thrown billions of dollars at an out dated defunct technology that will ultimately see Australia fall way behind the rest of the world and cost much more to fix.

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Reply #59 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 12:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:53am:

Dnarever wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:31am:

... wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 11:18am:

If the governmemt facilitates working from home, they save money on roads and congestion issues.

The company I am with saved the rental cost on two floors of two buildings.

and now spends it time complaining that the govt wont pay all the costs of sending employees to work in another location.

Not relevant but the more key employees are provided with the infrastructure at company expense, my comment isn't about paying the costs. This was only brought up as one example of the reality of internet usage.

The reality is that today not having adequate internet can effectively lock people out of viable employment opportunities and this will only get worse.

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