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Megan Emily Jones New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18 Brisbane, Queensland Gender:	Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy? Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:35pm While were at it, should the government get out of our lives entirely? I don't want government in my life?
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Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy?
Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:54pm

Will never happen.

The system is too large,
Too many people with too much power will kill too many to hold onto that power.

Politicians and public servants have proven many, many times that they will commit genocide before relinquishing any power.

Not even worth thinking about.

And killing them off would be like stamping on ants, there are always more of them and they just get angrier when you try.

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Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy?
Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:00pm

Megan Emily Jones wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:35pm:

While were at it, should the government get out of our lives entirely?

I don't want government in my life?

You don't want armed forces to defend your possessions, country and lifestyle? Your family, your friends? You don't want roads and water? Hmm. OK. Somalia has next to no govt, perhaps that may suit? Undecided

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 75282 Gender:	Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy? Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:02pm Sorry Megan, but the idea is preposterous.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38867 Gender:	Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy? Reply #4 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:53pm John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:02pm: Sorry Megan, but the idea is preposterous. Is it just me or is there anyone else who suspects we are doing this libertarian's homework?
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Reply #5 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:00pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 9:02pm:

Sorry Megan, but the idea is preposterous.

Is it just me or is there anyone else who suspects we are doing this libertarian's homework?

I have this feeling that libertarianism is rather stone age, it ignores all progress of man in the name of my cave is my castle.

edit: At the same time as ignoring that it was a tribal cave and stone age life was socialist, what is best for the clan.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy? Reply #6 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:40pm Megan, you have to spell out exactly what you are talking about. The bureaucracy is essentially the civil service. The government is made up of the blowhards we vote for, to form ministries which could change over night.
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Reply #7 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:53pm

issuevoter wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:40pm:

Megan, you have to spell out exactly what you are talking about. The bureaucracy is essentially the civil service. The government is made up of the blowhards we vote for, to form ministries which could change over night.

She's just venting, perhaps she received a parking ticket today.

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Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy?
Reply #8 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:58pm

Megan Emily Jones wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:35pm:

I don't want government in my life?

Good thing about a small village in the bush, there's nothing here to govern. "You're on your own", a neighbor told me when I first made the move from the big city. "That's the way I like it" he said

It takes a few years to get used to the new independence and learn a few survival tricks, but there's not a politician, bureaucrat or cop in sight all year round

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Reply #9 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:00pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 10:58pm:

Megan Emily Jones wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 8:35pm:

I don't want government in my life?

Good thing about a small village in the bush, there's nothing here to govern. "You're on your own", a neighbor told me when I first made the move from the big city. "That's the way I like it" he said

It takes a few years to get used to the new independence and learn a few survival tricks, but there's not a politician, bureaucrat or cop in sight all year round

Hippie!

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy? Reply #10 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:04pm Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:00pm: Hippie! Not in the least, I'm pretty well off (through my hard work). Control is reversed here, I control things, that's the difference
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Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy?
Reply #11 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:08pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:00pm:

Hippie!

Not in the least, I'm pretty well off (through my hard work). Control is reversed here, I control things, that's the difference

I wasn't commenting on your circumstance, it was your ideas, your outlook.

edit: There are a many who make a good living being hippie in this region. Perhaps you could bring your expertise?

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Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy?
Reply #12 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:23pm

Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:08pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:00pm:

Hippie!

Not in the least, I'm pretty well off (through my hard work). Control is reversed here, I control things, that's the difference

I wasn't commenting on your circumstance, it was your ideas, your outlook.

Oh ok, I talk to the animals. The spiders are passive, the way they act, I think they would lick you rather than bite. Not keen on the kangaroos pooing in my yard though at night

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Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy?
Reply #13 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:27pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:23pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:08pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:00pm:

Hippie!

Not in the least, I'm pretty well off (through my hard work). Control is reversed here, I control things, that's the difference

I wasn't commenting on your circumstance, it was your ideas, your outlook.

Oh ok, I talk to the animals. The spiders are passive, the way they act, I think they would lick you rather than bite. Not keen on the kangaroos pooing in my yard though at night

That's weird, hey. I talk to animals too, do they answer you? Bastards don't answer me.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: Should Australia eliminate all its beaurocracy? Reply #14 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 11:33pm [quote author=Setanta link=1469183754/11#11 date=1469192928]edit: There are a many who make a good living being hippie in this region. How do they escape the tax man? they'd be inviting bureaucracy or cops to knock on their lean-to if they made over $18,000
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