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Reply #30 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?
Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?
Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

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Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world?
oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. Wink

Not many at all.

However, this discussion is about Muslims coming to Australia.

So far, non-Muslims have killed many more Australians here than Muslims have.

Now, if we were to put a ban on all Muslim immigration, do you think that ratio would change?

Do you think the crazy Muslims already here (and I'm sure there are some out there) will say "Oh well, I'll just accept that decision and live the rest of my life here in Australia in peace"?

Or, do you think they might band together and try to "get even" with us.

OH puhlease...

Please what?

What's your answer?

I'll give you mine.

I think that if Australia banned all Muslim immigration (which is impossible, anyway), we would see terrorist attacks on our soil that would make 9/11 look like a picnic.

The radicalised Muslims are insane: they aren't going to sit back and just accept a decision like that.

If you think they are, then you're crazier than they are.

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #31 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:01pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:57pm:

miketrees wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Lets not discriminate.

Lets ban all immigration.

Yeah, can't agree with that.

Just ban the ones who don't had value to the place; like nut bag religious types.

In that case, Tony Abbott would never have been allowed in the country.

Hmmm, maybe you're onto something.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Reply #32 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:02pm Meh,, ban immigration, start population decrease. Set an example for the world.
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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #33 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:03pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:59pm:

Why not indeed have the Sonia Solution? We will have to fight off the imbeciles from the UN for daring to do so however.

More importantly, why not make our imports from the ME and Africa exclusively Christian & non-muslim minorities before they are exterminated.

At the same time we will have to turn our attention to controlling, surveilling and possibly harassing the current muslim population, maybe till they decide to leave, because while they remain they will give birth to more & more potential terrorists.

You are beyond help!!!

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #34 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:57pm:

miketrees wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:52pm:

Lets not discriminate.

Lets ban all immigration.

Yeah, can't agree with that.

Just ban the ones who don't had value to the place; like nut bag religious types.

In that case, Tony Abbott would never have been allowed in the country.

Hmmm, maybe you're onto something.

Totally agree; if you believe in some magical sky fairy you can fkk of back to where you came from and if you were born here; shut the fkk up about it.

Fire up the bull dozers and get every single religious idiot registered as a potential enemy of the state. It worked for gun owners it will work just as well here.

Howard didn't care about the constitution and the state's rights to make laws; fkk no; he just threatened them into doing what they were told or cut off funding.

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #35 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:36pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:51pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim???

Huh

Their identity documents state their religion.

It is up to individuals to declare their religion it is not imposed upon them by the State...

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In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents.
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.Do you really think a Muslim trying to enter Australia would declare their status if they knew it would prevent their entry...

their religion is stated on their identity documents, are you thick or what?.
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It would also be against the law in Australia to discriminate against anyone based on religious beliefs....The proposition is complete bullshit!!!

Correct, but they arent in Australia are they?

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Reply #36 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:37pm Its time wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:56pm: Will the Jew owners and moderators of this forum be moving these muslim threads to the appropriate section anytime soon? Rectal is worried about his ALP votes. Don't offend the muslims!
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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #37 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:00pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:53pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:39pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:33pm:

If we cant tell which muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?
Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

If we cant tell which non-muslims are a danger to us just by looking at them I wonder what would be the best way to ensure our safety?
Hey, maybe we should just ban them eh?

Undecided

Good point gweggy, but how many non-muslims are committing terrorist acts killing thousands all over the world?
oh and gwegg, I'm happy to ban them too. Wink

Not many at all.

However, this discussion is about Muslims coming to Australia.

So far, non-Muslims have killed many more Australians here than Muslims have.

Now, if we were to put a ban on all Muslim immigration, do you think that ratio would change?

Do you think the crazy Muslims already here (and I'm sure there are some out there) will say "Oh well, I'll just accept that decision and live the rest of my life here in Australia in peace"?

Or, do you think they might band together and try to "get even" with us.

OH puhlease...

Please what?

What's your answer?

I'll give you mine.

I think that if Australia banned all Muslim immigration (which is impossible, anyway), we would see terrorist attacks on our soil that would make 9/11 look like a picnic.

The radicalised Muslims are insane: they aren't going to sit back and just accept a decision like that.

If you think they are, then you're crazier than they are.

Sooooo.... you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already... so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country... goodo... your solution is to let more of them into the country... goodo

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 135591 Gender:	Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Reply #38 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:36pm: In all of the non western countries it is mandatory for religion to be stated on identity documents. Link?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73899 Gender:	Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? Reply #39 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:52pm Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia? it's far simpler to simply ban all religion
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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #40 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:56pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo.... you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...

Some (I didn't say "lots").

To think otherwise would be extremely naive.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...

No.

All crazy people who want to hurt us are a danger to the country, no matter what religion they may or may not follow.

I don't consider all Muslims a danger.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

goodo... your solution is to let more of them into the country... goodo

I don't remember saying that.

Perhaps you could provide a link.

Now, would you be so kind as to answer my question: if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #41 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim???

Huh

Their identity documents state their religion.

Immigration Official: "Religion?"

Applicant: "None".

Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in".

We're in total lockstep here.
How about this.
Our new immigration policy is that we have enough idiots, imported and home grown so our objective is to be very careful who we let in.

Part of immigrating to Australia will involve signing a contract that you will never, for the rest of your lift participate in any extremist activities. A list of what is deemed an extremist activity will be listed online in every language for all to see.

The penalty, deportation for the offender and every one of their blood relatives. No ifs, no buts, gorn.

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #42 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo.... you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...

Some (I didn't say "lots").

To think otherwise would be extremely naive.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...

No.

All crazy people who want to hurt us are a danger to the country, no matter what religion they may or may not follow.

I don't consider all Muslims a danger.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

goodo... your solution is to let more of them into the country... goodo

I don't remember saying that.

Perhaps you could provide a link.

Now, would you be so kind as to answer my question: if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

So now you deny what you said.... goodo

So in answer to your question... you are afraid of Muslims... so you agree with Hanson... no.... you deny you agree with Hanson... you are a hypocrite?
I'd change our settlement policy back to integration or assimilation, those who don't like it can leave... Trollboy will agree with that he tells people who don't like it here to leave. How about you Gweggy?
I think they should get on board or leave, I'm happy for those unhappy... to leave.
If they break the law I'm happy to gaol them then deport them.
Since you prog lefties seem to think they are wonderfully sane peaceful people why do you think there would be crazies causing trouble? hmmmmm? Cheesy

oh.... you agree with Hanson.... no.... you deny you agree with Hanson... goodo.

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #43 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:14pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Sooooo.... you think we have lots of crazy Muslims in the country already...

Some (I didn't say "lots").

To think otherwise would be extremely naive.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

so you agree with Hanson and others that they are a danger to the country...

No.

All crazy people who want to hurt us are a danger to the country, no matter what religion they may or may not follow.

I don't consider all Muslims a danger.

Grendel wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:

goodo... your solution is to let more of them into the country... goodo

I don't remember saying that.

Perhaps you could provide a link.

Now, would you be so kind as to answer my question: if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

So now you deny what you said....

No.

I said what I said.

I didn't say what you think I said.

So, if all Muslim immigration was stopped, do you think the crazy ones already in the country would accept it peacefully?

You seem to be struggling with this question. Why is that?

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Re: Why not ban all Muslims coming to Australia?
Reply #44 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:39pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:44pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:41pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 1:05pm:

Because it is unconstitutional to discriminate against religious beliefs and cannot possibly work in practice....How do you know someone is a Muslim???

Huh

Their identity documents state their religion.

Immigration Official: "Religion?"

Applicant: "None".

Immigration Official: "Fine, come on in".

We're in total lockstep here.
How about this.
Our new immigration policy is that we have enough idiots, imported and home grown so our objective is to be very careful who we let in.

Part of immigrating to Australia will involve signing a contract that you will never, for the rest of your lift participate in any extremist activities. A list of what is deemed an extremist activity will be listed online in every language for all to see.

The penalty, deportation for the offender and every one of their blood relatives. No ifs, no buts, gorn.

The document they sign also needs to include things like no wearing of the burqa and an adherence to Australian Christian values.

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