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Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:20pm
 
Why Obama Will Go Down as One of the Greatest of all time

Something is dawning on us—it’s almost too soon for us to admit, but it’s there, a half-considered thought only now blooming in our brains. Maybe we dismiss it with one of those quick cognitive fly swats. Nah, too early to say or I hate that guy. But the truth is coming, and it sounds like this: Barack Obama will be inducted into the league of Great Presidents.

Wait. One of the Greatest? you ask, your thumb emoticon poised to turn up or down on me. The guy haters love to hate with their very best hate game? Like 20-Dollar Bill great? Like Mount Rushmore great?

Yep. (We just won’t build Mount Rushmores anymore.) In so many ways, Obama was better than we imagined, better than the body politic deserved, and far, far better than his enemies will ever concede, but the great thing about being great is that the verdict of enemies doesn’t matter.

In fact, and I say this as a Bill Clinton fan, I now feel certain that, in the coming decades, Obama’s star will rise higher than Clinton’s, and he’ll replace Bill in the public mind as the Greatest Democrat since FDR.

This has to do with the nature of Obama’s leadership, which is to play to legacy (and Clinton’s impulse, which is to play to the room). Bill Clinton will long be revered because he’s charismatic, presided over an economic revival, and changed and elevated the view of the Democratic Party. Barack Obama will long be revered because he’s charismatic, presided over an economic revival, and changed and elevated the view of the presidency. He’s simply bigger than Bill.

More to the point, Obama’s legacy is the sort that gets canonized. Because the first rule of Hall of Fame-dom: The times have to suck for the president not to. Civil wars, World Wars, depressions and recessions. You got to have ’em if you wanna be great. That’s why we rate the Washingtons, Lincolns, and Roosevelts over That Fat Guy with the Walrus Mustache. Like Obama, these Great Men were dealt sucky hands, won big, and left the country better off than it was before.

    To unify where and however we can. In this way, too, Obama pointed the way forward.

But it’s also why we downgrade the Jimmy Carters and Herbert Hoovers. Were they as bad in real time as we remember them in history? Probably not. But they were dealt sucky hands, only played one round, and left the country feeling worse off. Legacy Game over. (Hoover reminds me more and more of Donald Trump! Elected with little political experience, Hoover was a rich bastard whose central theme was that government was wasteful. His answer to the Great Depression was to start a trade war and build a massive project called the Hoover Dam. The dam turned out to be a giant wall that did not stop or solve larger problems. Déjà vu, thy name is Trump Wall!)

Obama has a few other edges in the long haul of history, beyond specific hurrah moments like Obamacare, rescuing the economy, and making America way more bi-curious. Being the first black president of course secures a certain legacy. But what now feels distinctly possible is that, just as Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed, over time he may be judged less for the color of his skin than for the content of his character. That character came across every time haters or Trumpers or birthers tried to pull him down into the mud or question his American-ness. He just flew above it all. And, luckily, he took most of us with him. He was the Leader not only of our country but of our mood and disposition, which is harder to rule. At a time when we became more polarized, our discourse pettier and more poisoned, Obama always came across as the Adult in the Room, the one we wanted to be and follow.

Ironically, one of the lock-ins to his Hall of Fame Greatness was originally supposed to be his Achilles’ heel, the shallow thing critics loved to smear him with: his eloquence, his “reliance” on speeches and teleprompters (Sarah Palin once famously screeched, “Mr. President…step away from the teleprompter and do your job!” while herself reading from a teleprompter), as if addressing the country as a whole, trying to unify or inspire people, were a superficial thing. But pivotal words at pivotal moments are not only how we come to admire great leaders, it’s the primary way we remember them. The first thing most people can recall about Lincoln? The Gettysburg Address. FDR? Fireside chats. George Washington? His amazing Snapchats. (George was first with everything.)


With Obama, each thoughtful step of the way, from his soaring acceptance speech (“The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep…”) to his epic speeches on race and religion, his responses to the shootings in Tucson and Newtown, the killing of Osama bin Laden, the opening of Cuba (“Todos somos Americanos!”), and countless other momentous occasions, he knew how to speak to our better angels at a time when it was hard to locate any angels.

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...cont

Lastly, there’s the arc of history, bound to bend downward. As our unity becomes more frayed, more tenuous, and the ability for any politician to get anything done more unlikely, the job of president will become less LBJ tactical and less FDR big-dealer. The job will largely be to preside. To unify where and however we can. In this way, too, Obama pointed the way forward.

It may be hard to imagine now, but in the face of rising chaos, we’ll crave unity all the more, and in future years whoever can speak most convincingly of unity will rise to the top. (It’s also hard to imagine many beating Obama at the game.) This year’s carnival election, with Trump as a kind of debauched circus barker, only makes the distinction clearer. The absurdity and car-crash spectacle of it all have already lent Obama an out-of-time quality, as if he were a creature from another, loftier century. Whatever happens next, I feel this in my bones: We’ll look back at history, hopefully when we’re zooming down the Barack Obama Hyperloop Transport System, and think: That man was rare. And we were damn lucky to have him.

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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:47pm
 
Yeah, trying to rule via fiat instead of the Senate.
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Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:55pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:47pm:
Yeah, trying to rule via fiat instead of the Senate.


Did he have much of an alternative?
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
Did he have much of an alternative?



There are always alternatives. Just imagine if Abbott had tried that, ruling by decree.
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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2016 at 8:03pm
 
How stupid.

There would be no Trump without Obama.
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Reply #6 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:19pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jul 24th, 2016 at 5:21pm:
...cont

Lastly, there’s the arc of history, bound to bend downward. As our unity becomes more frayed, more tenuous, and the ability for any politician to get anything done more unlikely, the job of president will become less LBJ tactical and less FDR big-dealer. The job will largely be to preside. To unify where and however we can. In this way, too, Obama pointed the way forward.

It may be hard to imagine now, but in the face of rising chaos, we’ll crave unity all the more, and in future years whoever can speak most convincingly of unity will rise to the top. (It’s also hard to imagine many beating Obama at the game.) This year’s carnival election, with Trump as a kind of debauched circus barker, only makes the distinction clearer. The absurdity and car-crash spectacle of it all have already lent Obama an out-of-time quality, as if he were a creature from another, loftier century. Whatever happens next, I feel this in my bones: We’ll look back at history, hopefully when we’re zooming down the Barack Obama Hyperloop Transport System, and think: That man was rare. And we were damn lucky to have him.

http://www.gq.com/story/obama-greatest-president-legacy



How pathetic.


It's all emoting, no mention of any achievements - because there have been none.




meanwhile at the democratic Party Convention;

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania — Supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) adopted a slogan from the Republican National Convention in their protests against presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton on Sunday: “Lock her up!”




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Reply #7 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
It's all emoting, no mention of any achievements - because there have been none.


There's been one   Cool


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Reply #9 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:18am
 
Well, that's a ringing endorsement, Redneck. A lot of opinion and not much substance. However, I don't accept half the criticism leveled at Obama. He is not what I would call great. Good, all the same. Presidents don't run the economy. If they did, the stock market would tank. All they can do is nudge legislation this way or that. Obama has made the first real effort to do something about health care in the USA. It may not be perfect, but if it were left to the Republicans, it would never happen. That is their short sight playing into the hands of their opponents.

You can bet if if the US military killed bin Laden during the Bush adminstration, we would hear no end of how it was Bush's brilliance. Obama has tried hard to keep US troops out of the never ending conflict in the ME. That was a main issue that got him elected, and he has done his best. That being said, his support for the Syrian rebels is as naive as America can be. Although, it does benefit Israel.

By the way, if Obama is to by defined by race, he is not black. He is a mulatto, and his children are quatroons. But the way his blackness is presented, its like his mother doesn't count.
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Reply #10 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:28am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 8:18am:
Well, that's a ringing endorsement, Redneck. A lot of opinion and not much substance. However, I don't accept half the criticism leveled at Obama. He is not what I would call great. Good, all the same. Presidents don't run the economy. If they did, the stock market would tank. All they can do is nudge legislation this way or that. Obama has made the first real effort to do something about health care in the USA. It may not be perfect, but if it were left to the Republicans, it would never happen. That is their short sight playing into the hands of their opponents.

You can bet if if the US military killed bin Laden during the Bush adminstration, we would hear no end of how it was Bush's brilliance. Obama has tried hard to keep US troops out of the never ending conflict in the ME. That was a main issue that got him elected, and he has done his best. That being said, his support for the Syrian rebels is as naive as America can be. Although, it does benefit Israel.

By the way, if Obama is to by defined by race, he is not black. He is a mulatto, and his children are quatroons. But the way his blackness is presented, its like his mother doesn't count.


I just think he is a lot better than all the rightards claim, the hawks all say he is too soft militarily but he just did what the public wanted when he was initially elected  and pulled the troops out of the ME, despite this the USA has used aircraft and drones to massively bomb the crap out of IS and lots of the other terrorist groups in ME and Africa

as far as that graph below is concerned (origin unknown), I think he will be be seen in a better light as years go by, unfortunately he is in his second term and the usual lame duck president applies to him as most others in the same boat. I really think the two term rule really needs dropping.
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Reply #11 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 9:34am
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:22pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
It's all emoting, no mention of any achievements - because there have been none.


There's been one   Cool





Kennedy was widely hated among the Right during his time. No coincidence he was assassinated in Texas and not some other place. Because he was killed the Right will now say things like "JFK was the last good Democrat" ... had he lived he would get the FDR treatment:

FDR was even more hated by the Right than JFK and one can always tell a nutter by how quickly an FDR online conversation turns into "FDR prolonged the Great Depression" and "the New Deal failed" ...  FDR is literally the devil to these people.
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Reply #12 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:09am
 
  You gotta love Obama ........ not!
What a great salesman he is - conned millions of Americans. Seems that the conspiracy theorists were right.
Watch!

 
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Only 19 seconds, Sent by a German friend after the YouTube version from the US was pulled.

If you haven't heard this you should listen to it. It only takes 19 seconds.

It's unbelievable that Obama actually says this out loud!  This Obama speech was given at the Bilderberg Group conference in Brussels, Belgium, on May 23, 2014. Obama's comments are chilling - THIS IS THE NEW WORLD ORDER that has been percolating through a number of American presidencies and other world leaders, and now seems to be coming into fruition

PLEASE pass it on to everyone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfRtbIQ1kTw&feature=youtu.be

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Reply #13 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:14am
 
I don't believe Obama's morals are any better than any other politician. However Obama's greatest achievement is to turn the GOP into a lame duck in Obama's second term.

From a position of being outnumbered in Congress and Senate Obama has managed to continue his agenda while the GOP has failed in their agenda.

Obama's strategy and tactics will be much studied by students of politics.
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Reply #14 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 11:57am
 
Squire wrote on Jul 27th, 2016 at 10:14am:
Obama's strategy and tactics will be much studied by students of politics.



It will be interesting to see what decree rulings will be overturned by a new President.
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