shouldn't these prior few posts be on the other thread.?

Aussie wrote on Aug 9^th, 2016 at 7:35pm:


Not technically true but whatever.
I am sure you don't need reminding which person drove Muso insane with barrage of PMs and constant stream of posts directed to him on here.....

Emma wrote on Aug 9^th, 2016 at 7:59pm:


Thanks Emma! 

Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 9^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:


That's not an argument for free speech, and it never was.

It's a demand for hate speech and abuse to be legitimised and
avenues of redress available to those abused to be cut-off.

What I'd like to see is freedom of speech, not freedom to abuse.
It seems we're leaning towards abuse in all stratas of society, and there is nothing wrong with expressing honest opinions, but there is something VERY WRONG with enabling hate-speak.
How do we govern this? It seems to me to fall into the realm of ethical behaviour by individuals, and legislation can only work punitively in this regard. What is clearly hate-filled must be condemned, regardless of the intended victims, and to argue that it is OK to abuse those in other racial, ethnic, gender-based or religious groups is a retrograde step which can only lead to further breakdowns in society.
Be that as it may, we are heading down the slippery slope, here in Australia. That is clearly evident  when we look at the crimes our own government commits against refugees, child detainees, and other disadvantaged groups.   
I don't really understand why this is so. I only know I abhor it.
and I protest in against it.

cods wrote on Aug 9^th, 2016 at 8:50pm:



Hello Cods. The poster who shall remain nameless was actually ME.   I didn't use names because it isn't about personal abuse, rather about the right to speak freely, without abusing someone. 
I don't think criticism is always abuse. Although it certainly can be, if un-warranted, without merit or unfair and uncalled for. I personally think constructive criticism has taught me a hell of a lot in my life... without constructive criticism there is often no guide for people to understand how their actions or words impact, not only on themselves but on those around them.

In parentis loco.. as they say. We all have a duty of care to our fellows, and sometimes they NEED to be told they are acting inappropriately for both their benefit and the rest of us.

I don't think pussy-footing around the word abuse, and substituting criticism is the way to go. It is very much left up to the individual in that case. On the other hand, the word ABUSE is clear. Belittling, denigrating and undermining people with abusive words is not acceptable. I definitely agree with that, having been the target of such abuse myself, on this forum. It only hurts the abusers, in the long run, and developing a thick skin against these abusers is necessary to live your life in peace.

The emphasis on personal is necessary, because otherwise what is the point?  I know all my criticisms of our govt, for example , fall on deaf ears. Nevertheless I am free to do so, in order to vent my frustrations at the injustices in the world we see and hear about every day.
Hence I understand where you come from at times. I just feel sometimes you need to stop and think about what you say.

So anyway Cods, I am glad we can all have a dialogue about issues that matter to us, here on this forum.
To insist that all posts must be nice, and politically correct is to reduce the worth of this Forum, into inanity and worthlessness. People are not designed that way. And I am sure you wouldn't want that either.

Sometimes we must listen to the opinions of our peers, lest we become entirely self-centred narcissistic individuals.

A little criticism shouldn't cause a major meltdown. I am sorry that you were hurt by my use of the word vicious...  I do consider that sometimes you hit back at people in a nasty manner. I don't respond to those posts, but when you were saying you are a victim of abuse, and don't know why, I felt it incumbent on me to try to get you to look at how you sometimes respond, and perhaps help you to understand WHY you get the flack you do.

A bit heavy-handed wasn't I? But did it get you to think about it, beyond victimhood? I hope so.

Cheers, and I'll have a glass of red to you. .

Emma wrote on Aug 9^th, 2016 at 6:42pm:


SO   Back to the topic...
I see you are unable to formulate an effective reply Aussie, so I take that as having called your bluff, because clearly you have nothing further to add. You digress into the subject of another topic.. the Global Mods topic, in fact.

Seems from the Poll you set up ,  that your view is NOT the common view. Seems you have put your foot in it. 

Oh well not to worry.  Unless of course you think I abused you by calling you out.  Better report me to the mods eh?

Sigh.. just when I was beginning to have a bit of fun too.