Emma wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:18pm:


I hear you, and, to a certain extent, I agree with you.

BUT, when a change in Government policy has a dramatic effect on illegal arrivals, while at the same time saving lives, is Nauru a worst case scenario for these people?

One only has to look at Europe to see the consequences of an 'open-door' policy and witness the quality of 'asylum seeker' so attracted. We have no need of that, ever.

The people currently being held in detention must be there for a reason. Once we let them into the country, the rules change. We already have enough potential trouble with people already on our shores. We cannot set a precedent or we will be held to ransom.

How many safe havens have they already bypassed? And for what reasons?

Send a further message and send them home.

If we intend on continuing to a humanitarian intake of refugees, let us at least ensure they will be compatible with their adoptive society and will assimilate and contribute to that society.

We do not, despite the size of our country, have the resources for anything else.

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Emma, I was meaning to ask you. Are you more concerned about where the asylum seekers are being housed, whilst their status is being determined? Or are you more concerned about the lack of discipline being shown by these asylum seekers.

To answer the question not directed at me, these people are obviously asylum seekers. Around the year 2000, we had many asylum seekers making their way to Australia. Many of them were using the line that they were going to work on the Olympic construction in Sydney. Obviously a lie, and a naive one at that.

We keep hearing about how these asylum seekers are hard working people. I actually have worked with one in past years. I don't actually like him, due to reasons unrelated to his refugee status. But, however, he seems to be one of the exceptions. Most asylum seekers do not get jobs upon the first few years of living in Australia. Not that I really blame them with the generous welfare benefits heaped upon them.

My problem with your post is that you resort to using emotive language like calling their transports "tiny leaky boats". Where did you get the "tiny, leaky" part from, in this issue? Asylum seekers are transported in seaworthy large fishing boats. The fact that the smugglers overcrowd the boats is a result of them knowing that they will lose the boats upon arrival in Australian waters. That is why they insist on getting as many people as possible to board those vessels.

Have you ever been shot? Assaulted? Nearly starved to death? I have. I have also fought for my survival more than necessary for some white guy living in Australia. Why is it that a person from a privilege society like Australia should be expected to fight for his right to survive. But, an overseas migrant (seeking asylum) needs to be pampered by some social justice warrior, wanting to symbolically make sure she rids herself of her self-perceived racist stench?

These people seeking asylum, should not be seeking asylum. They should be caught up fighting for their rights in their home country. They rape and abuse children, simply for the fact that it is not against their custom in their country of birth. Instead, I hear the likes of you trying to use those disgusting instances to justify letting them come to live among my own countrymen.

You better wake up to what is going on soon. Because these people are taking you for a ride.

Emma wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 4:26am:



There are, as you say, exceptions.
Perhaps these on the Murray are that exception.

The majority of these ILLEGAL immigrants live in suburbs which they take over and turn into NO GO zones.
Again I point to the examples of France, Germany and Sweden, where the ILLEGALS have taken over and caused absolute upheaval to once generous societies.

The ones on Nauru are not the nice friendly people you espouse, these people are here because there is some suspicion about the tall tales they tell to get a free ride.
Too many of these ILLEGALS have been caught in sexual abuse, crying that its accepted in their culture.
Do you think this kind of animal will ever fit into our culture? this is the crap we need to be well rid of.
Child brides, (pedophilia in any other term), wife beating, honor killing, genital mutilation, demanding beheading of all and sundry. This is what these people bring.
I DON'T WANT MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN EXPOSED TO THIS SHITE.

Yes there are children, but if one child is permitted to come to this country, they bring with them an agenda. They import their family, because we all know once one is in, they start lobbying for their extended family to come to Australia for Compassionate reasons. Aided and abetted by do gooders.

Potentially a single child may bring many unwanted dead beats, We don't want that.

It appears to me that you want even more people to die.
No, I'm serious here.
Should we allow these people to come, do you honestly think it will end there?
Seriously, you don't think that this will open the floodgates yet again?
Then there will be more boats, more deaths at sea, people smugglers are standing by just waiting. These parasites don't care about the people, all they see is the money and once they have it, they couldn't care less.

Personally Id rather see a few people, even children, unhappy, but alive, than hundreds drowned at sea trying to get here ILLEGALLY.

WE have offered them cash to go ho,me, but they are simply holding out for more.
They are parasites who will be of no more benefit to Australian society than a bag of garbage.

Please wake up, or you may find yourself subjected to the filth they bring.
Do you want to be raped, sexually assaulted or treated as a possession?
This is their final agenda and goal, total and complete subjugation of every culture and race into one big cesspit of hate, fear and war.
They have all been at war for centuries and will probably be at war for centuries more.

Also, many REAL refugees are Christian, who are truly persecuted and face death at the hands of the Muzzo oppressors.
But these REAL refugees are not permitted to get near the processing centers.
They are harassed, hounded, beaten and chased away by the Muzzos who want first pickings.

But that dont quite fit into the bleeding heart mentality do it????????????

Gnads wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 10:24am:


According to the Immigration Department, actually.

"THERE are enough illegal immigrants living in Australia to fill a large regional city, and nearly all of these 58,400 people arrive by plane."

"Figures obtained by The Advertiser from the Immigration Department and under the Freedom of Information Act show plane arrivals from the United States (5080) and Britain (3610) are near the top of the list of those in the country without a valid visa. China (8070), and Malaysia (4200) round out the top four."

58,000 illegal immigrants in Australia have arrived by plane

Refugees aren't illegal immigrants. Far from it.

Neither are asylum seekers.

Not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's not very accurate.

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 4:13pm:


Nice try?

I'm just stating the facts.

Those people - who came by plane - are illegal immigrants.

Asylum seekers and refugees are not.

Someone has to do something.
Lets hope it doesn't take too long.

miketrees wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:39pm:


Petty partisan politics, rather than addressing the problem.

Ah.