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Reply #300 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:49am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:45am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:20am:
cods wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:19am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:16am:
Gnads wrote Today at 10:10am:
So called Asylum seekers ...

There is no such thing as a "so called asylum seeker".

If you say you're claiming asylum, you are an asylum seeker.

No ifs, and no buts.



why do so many get sent back then????...


just askin


I'm glad you asked.

They get sent back because they aren't refugees.
Only if their country takes them back.


That's true.

The point is, their claims are rejected if they aren't refugees.

And they go into detention. So you are a supporter of offshore detention it seems.


Nope, I don't support it.

I'm just stating the facts.
So if they are not a refugee and their country won't take them back what do you suggest happen?


They stay in Her-bert's spare bedroom, until our incredibly useless government can come up with a solution.

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Re: Nauru disgrace.
Reply #301 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:52am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:49am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:45am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:20am:
cods wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:19am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:16am:
Gnads wrote Today at 10:10am:
So called Asylum seekers ...

There is no such thing as a "so called asylum seeker".

If you say you're claiming asylum, you are an asylum seeker.

No ifs, and no buts.



why do so many get sent back then????...


just askin


I'm glad you asked.

They get sent back because they aren't refugees.
Only if their country takes them back.


That's true.

The point is, their claims are rejected if they aren't refugees.

And they go into detention. So you are a supporter of offshore detention it seems.


Nope, I don't support it.

I'm just stating the facts.
So if they are not a refugee and their country won't take them back what do you suggest happen?


They stay in Her-bert's spare bedroom, until our incredibly useless government can come up with a solution.

So you believe in letting non refugees stay on the Australian mainland. Now it's becoming clear. What a great message that would send out to the worlds non refugee country shoppers.
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Re: Nauru disgrace.
Reply #302 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:55am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:49am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:48am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:45am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:36am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:20am:
cods wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:19am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:16am:
Gnads wrote Today at 10:10am:
So called Asylum seekers ...

There is no such thing as a "so called asylum seeker".

If you say you're claiming asylum, you are an asylum seeker.

No ifs, and no buts.



why do so many get sent back then????...


just askin


I'm glad you asked.

They get sent back because they aren't refugees.
Only if their country takes them back.


That's true.

The point is, their claims are rejected if they aren't refugees.

And they go into detention. So you are a supporter of offshore detention it seems.


Nope, I don't support it.

I'm just stating the facts.
So if they are not a refugee and their country won't take them back what do you suggest happen?


They stay in Her-bert's spare bedroom, until our incredibly useless government can come up with a solution.

So you believe in letting non refugees stay on the Australian mainland. Now it's becoming clear. What a great message that would send out to the worlds non refugee country shoppers.


Once they found out they were staying at Her-bet's place, I think you'd see a rapid decline in the number of people getting on boats.

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Reply #303 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:28am
 
So.

You agree in the principle of country shopping.
You disagree with detention centers.
You do not have an alternative to the current process.
You do not agree that Australia should be able to hold sovereignty over its own borders and be allowed to restrict access of UNDESIRABLES.
You believe that Australia should bow down to some international overlords who have no Authority, responsibility, ownership or belief in honesty.
These overlords who are paid Millions to come up with stupid, untenable and worthless ideals that they have no ability to enforce or implement.
They do nothing to share the load among other countries, they simply demand that any who are stupid enough to listen, do exactly what they want.

What a load of shite.

You can either be a part of the solution or a part of the problem.
These idiots are part of the problem and need desperately to be tossed out on their ears.

I have said it before.
If a government cannot or will not support its own citizens, it deserves to be destroyed, eliminated and dispatched with extreme intensity.
If a population cannot be supported by the land on which it lives, it should be allowed to die out.
Yes, allowed to perish, until a manageable, sustainable level of population is eventually reached.

It sounds harsh, but consider the alternative.
If we send more and more food and provisions to a population that obviously does not have enough intelligence and common sense to limit its population growth, it will just keep growing and growing while demanding more and more support.

Eventually we will be in the position of working and farming, purely to support an ever growing population of worthless parasites who both cannot and will not fend for themselves.

When will it end?
When we do nothing but make food for these people?
When our existence is dedicated to nothing more than providing for an ever growing population who do nothing but consume the fruits of our labor?

We also cannot take more and more uneducated REFUGEES into our country, Govco has allowed virtually all industry to go off shore, we have no work for them.
They will simply come here, breed and suck the life out of our welfare system.

Mark my words,
We will eventually have to sort out this crap or we will be overrun by parasites, by a cancer that is eating away at our world.
This cancer is a growing population of people who do not want to work, but who only want to breed and live off any who are willing to feed them.
Predominantly these parasites are Muslim, refugee, country shoppers.
Just like those in Nauru.
We need to send a strong message.
You are no longer welcome, we have had enough, we will no longer be your little black (white) boy.

Leave them in Nauru, or send them home.
I really do not care, any more than they care for me or my rights.
Stop supporting them, stop sending them money, let them do something for themselves or starve.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #304 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:34am
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:28am:
Stop supporting them, stop sending them money, let them do something for themselves or starve.


'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche'

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Reply #305 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 12:51pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 3:45am:
Raven wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 1:29am:
No matter what you think about boat people, the fact that children are being failed by each and every one of us should and must be cause for outrage.

Unfortunately these children are either too much of the wrong complexion or simply a member of the wrong religion


Or perhaps a bunch of liars. Or maybe they come from a culture where child abuse is commonplace.

It's damned if you do. Damned if you don't. If authorities take children out of abusive parental control, the parents will pull a "stolen generation" on authorities. If the authorities leave the children with their parents, the abuse continues.


These accusations aren't just coming from the detainees, they are also coming from official reports by Centre staff.

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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.
 
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Reply #306 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:15pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:52am:
So you believe in letting non refugees stay on the Australian mainland. Now it's becoming clear. What a great message that would send out to the worlds non refugee country shoppers.


Virtually all refugee claimants are genuine refugees even those found to not qualify.
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Reply #307 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:41pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:15pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 10:52am:
So you believe in letting non refugees stay on the Australian mainland. Now it's becoming clear. What a great message that would send out to the worlds non refugee country shoppers.


Virtually all refugee claimants are genuine refugees even those found to not qualify.




SERIOUSLY????

I give up, the world is doomed. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Reply #308 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm
 
seriously ? we are all doomed to die, but it is better to live in love for all things, than to live in hatred and fear.
We should all strive to become better human beings. To not do so is to live in death, and hopelessness.

Sometimes the lessons we learn are hard.. very hard. We face our day and succeed, or we turn away and diminish ourselves.
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Reply #309 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 9:10pm
 
Emma wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 9:07pm:
seriously ? we are all doomed to die, but it is better to live in love for all things, than to live in hatred and fear.
It's better to be realistic and work thinks out before going in and wanting to kiss everything.
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Reply #310 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 9:33pm
 
Reality is different for everyone. You may think you are 'figuring it out first, before acting', when what you are doing is seeing the world as you want it to be, rather than living in the present and dealing with it.

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Reply #311 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:04pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:45am:
They're simply aiming for the best.

An admirable quality.


Aiming for the best country to migrate is not a prerequisite for getting out of danger. You get to a safe country, you lose that asylum seeker status.
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Reply #312 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:26pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:45am:
They're simply aiming for the best.

An admirable quality.


You get to a safe country, you lose that asylum seeker status.



What's a "safe country"?



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Reply #313 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:55pm
 
Valkie wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 11:28am:
I have said it before.If a government cannot or will not support its own citizens, it deserves to be destroyed, eliminated and dispatched with extreme intensity.If a population cannot be supported by the land on which it lives, it should be allowed to die out.Yes, allowed to perish, until a manageable, sustainable level of population is eventually reached.



Well how come you think that way, when our country cannot or will not support its own citizens, and our country is not supported by the land on which it lives. Our government punishes our disabled children and our indigenous people, it fails the disadvantaged and those in our care. Our government abandons our returned soldiers to their fate, and actively resists paying them just entitlements.

We are not supporting the dairy industry, or other primary producers that are drought-stricken. WE import huge amounts of food and other commodities, at the expense of our own producers. SO ..... you are saying WE should be allowed to perish, until a manageable sustainable level of pop. is eventually reached.

Now THAT is truth....  so WE don't deserve to live here. 
That is what you are saying.... 

Too bad you don't recognize your own shite.



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Reply #314 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 12:37am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 7:31am:
rhino wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 11:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 10:56pm:


They are not detained for any criminal activity.

thats true, but they dont need to indulge in any criminal activity in order to be detained. Entering Australia without a visa is not a criminal offence, there are no penalties under law for doing so. Anyone who does so however is able to be lawfully detained and if appropriate sent back.


Correct.

And I have never said anything to the contrary.

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sure you have. You have been saying they are detained for health and security checks. Thats not correct. They are detained because they have entered illegally. All persons who enter illegally are detained.
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