Emma, we feel no shame in locking up people who have entered Australia without documentation. I would suffer the same fate, if I enter any country in the world without documentation. But, atleast in Australia, I would be treated to 3 meals a day, a bed, shelter, clothing, showers, and entertainment. Asylum seekers/illegal immigrants (take your pick) are treated better than prisoners. Except prisoners have this stigma of having committed something illegal. Asylum seekers are yet to have their fate determined as either refugees or illegal immigrants. Trust me, I have been inside a prison, and the accommodations are not bad.

We have embassies in all countries that are on the way to Australia. Asylum seekers have the right to seek asylum through embassies, as far as I know. There is no reason to try force our hand to accept them, by boating to Australia. They boat here with the intention of making Australia accept them as refugees. Otherwise, they would be having to wait their turn behind other more genuine cases.

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They had the ability to face the conditions of high seas, when they could have stayed in Indonesia. They aren't that defenceless if they are willing to take on a perilous journey like that. Realistically, if they are willing to do that, then they should be able to take on their oppressors in their home country.

I mean, are you really missing the point? They are claiming to be fleeing persecution and/or death for some reason in their home country. Beggars can't be choosers. If I was fleeing a considerable threat, a safe haven, 3 meals a day, and a bed is a good start to overcome the threat. From there, I can start to organise ways of taking on a new life, or re-engage in getting back to my homeland.

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Since you present yourself as a social justice warrior on this forum, perhaps it should be YOU that gives up your accommodation, your job, and your place in Australian society. Head overseas to wherever the refugee came from, and do something about righting the wrongs over there. Rotsa ruck!

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I don't know if you have been paying attention, but the policies of the rulers in those dystopian societies that asylum seekers are from are what motivate the asylum seekers to come here. What do you expect to do to change the reason why asylum seekers are asylum seekers? Oh, what do you care anyway? You are more concerned about giving boat people 5-star accommodation, or perhaps let out into the community without proper checks on as who they are identified. Give it 20 years with your stupid, naive policy, and Australia will turn into the country resembling where the refugees came.

Europe, over the last year, has seen a major influx of Syrians and Middle Easterners, looking to colonise Europe and introduce Islam, forcing it upon the Europeans. Many southern European nations are closing the borders to the boat people. Some European nations are looking to emulate Australia's housing of asylum seekers offshore.

As much as you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend it is not happening, we are at a cross roads where people are lying to humanitarian nations, such as Australia. Lying about who they are, and what their intentions, is what we have to contend with, in dealing with asylum seekers. They are playing YOU like a sucker. And it is the silent majority who seem to be paying for your mistakes.

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:54pm:


AHH but you weren't on Nauru or Manus Island were you. Big difference.

Emma wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:59pm:
No comparison.

rhino wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:02pm:

Yes, you are in a bind because the Govt has legislated to prevent the Australian people from knowing the truth

. I am pleased that you have at least admitted that you have no experience of the realities of \\\\\\\\Nauru or Manus Island. You do not know, so I think your assertion that all the detainess men women and children, held illegally in detention are Muslims, are based on nothing but your own ignorance.

rhino wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 12:03am:

Nope.

Perfectly legal.

Emma wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 11:59pm:


Like I told you: If I was desperate for asylum, a roof over my head, a change of clothes, 3 meals a day, and a bed to sleep on, and safe, would be ideal over being homeless, hungry, and persecuted. Can you show that these asylum seekers are getting anything less?

Emma wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 9:58pm:


People don't care * when a certain population density is reached. Rats do the same.

edit: *about each other

The lefty do-gooder tries to pump their ego with all this chest thumping.

It is very low consciousness behaviour and it reflects the ego of the lefty.

You see looney lefties think that a big ego means attachment to money or fancy cars or nice real estate. It can, but most successful people are not attached to these things (they are attached to a sense of contribution).

In fact, most big egos are pumped by attachment to ideas and belief systems. The very rigid and fixed belief system of the Emma peel, the Sarah hansen Young etc, is no different to the attachment to ideas and thought and belief systems of the ISIS commander who seeks to hate "other".

the looney left and the ISIS commander both seek to find their identity by hating on "other", in this case people who dont hold their ideology.

It is a sickness.

Now the rightie must not do this either.
the rightie must not hate on the refugee or he is also pumping his identity by hating on "otherness".

So the rightie must engage with the refugee and be solution focused and un emotional.
He must find a way of moving the refugee back to where he came from and convince the refugee that we are a compassionate people but we are not doormats and that we have a right to construct australia as a 'positive ecosystem of good emotions".

If a refugee , was, for example always smiling and cheerful , always whistling whilst he worked at naru, always postive and contributing a good vibe,then we should say...welcome to out ecosytem of good emotions.
if a refugee is sad and self pitying and angry and complaining, this state of emotions needs to be corrected and we must all master our own emotions.

i hope self help seminars are being done on naru. if they arent, i am happy to send some tapes there in a spirit of contribution