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Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:25pm

And of course he's right.
He's usually right and he's not wrong about this.

The Muslim boy promised he would get the troops home. (Granted they shouldn't have been there at all and absolutely the Iraq army shouldn't have been disbanded)
But he brought too many home against all advice about the consequences.
Result: power vacuum.

Second, he championed, in fact he encouraged, all these Arab Spring movements. He actually supported the Muslim Brotherhood.
The reality was only the dictatorships were suppressing the terrorist groups.
Result: further spread of IS and All Qaeda.

So he is in a lot of ways responsible for IS.

Right again Donald. They might pull you down but the people will know who is telling the truth.
And it's not Abu bin Obama and it's not Hillary Lying Clinton.

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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #1 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:30pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:25pm:

And of course he's right.
He's usually right and he's not wrong about this.

The Muslim boy promised he would get the troops home. (Granted they shouldn't have been there at all and absolutely the Iraq army shouldn't have been disbanded)
But he brought too many home against all advice about the consequences.
Result: power vacuum.

Second, he championed, in fact he encouraged, all these Arab Spring movements. He actually supported the Muslim Brotherhood.
The reality was only the dictatorships were suppressing the terrorist groups.
Result: further spread of IS and All Qaeda.

So he is in a lot of ways responsible for IS.

Right again Donald. They might pull you down but the people will know who is telling the truth.
And it's not Abu bin Obama and it's not Hillary Lying Clinton.

Ok so Alex Jones @ infowars is your unbiased news source

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS Reply #2 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:44pm I should discuss with someone who thinks I can't disringuish between ABC (US) and ABC ( Aus)? You've become an arthritic leftist relic of a bygone age.
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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #3 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:57pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:44pm:

I should discuss with someone who thinks I can't disringuish between ABC (US) and ABC ( Aus)?

You've become an arthritic leftist relic of a bygone age.

You've trashed world news organisations who have been for decades trusted sources in favour of infowars & Breibart & you have the nerve to throw insults at me?

Now I'm an advocate for never believe anything you see or hear without at least 4 independent sources & fully agree most news agencies spend more time creating than reporting but really have a go at it

http://www.breitbart.com/

And you had the gall in the past to criticise Cricky, I.A & New Matilda.

You've become a shadow of the conservative independent thinker I used to know.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40754 Gender:	Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS Reply #4 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:13pm Trump is saying what many have said here for years
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18492 Gender:	Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS Reply #5 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:35pm The Caliph announced the Caliphate on Obuuma's watch. There was no IS in Libya before the Kenyan's Arab spring, Libya abandoned their WMD program when they saw what Bush did to Iraq.
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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #6 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:39pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:35pm:

The Caliph announced the Caliphate on Obuuma's watch.

There was no IS in Libya before the Kenyan's Arab spring, Libya abandoned their WMD program when they saw what Bush did to Iraq.

And the Republican Party was cheering, nay demanding president Obama supplied arms to the rebels in Syria to overthrow the Russian backed Assad.
What short memories you have

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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #7 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:48pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:35pm:

The Caliph announced the Caliphate on Obuuma's watch.

There was no IS in Libya before the Kenyan's Arab spring, Libya abandoned their WMD program when they saw what Bush did to Iraq.

And the Republican Party was cheering, nay demanding president Obama supplied arms to the rebels in Syria to overthrow the Russian backed Assad.
What short memories you have

The republicans aren't in power ya dopey dim wit.

Assad is backed by Iran, his father whacked the muslim brothelhood with the Hama massacre in 1982.

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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #8 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 6:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:48pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 5:35pm:

The Caliph announced the Caliphate on Obuuma's watch.

There was no IS in Libya before the Kenyan's Arab spring, Libya abandoned their WMD program when they saw what Bush did to Iraq.

And the Republican Party was cheering, nay demanding president Obama supplied arms to the rebels in Syria to overthrow the Russian backed Assad.
What short memories you have

The republicans aren't in power ya dopey dim wit.

Assad is backed by Iran, his father whacked the muslim brothelhood with the Hama massacre in 1982.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/08/mitt-romney-arm-syrian-rebels

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Do as we say
It blows up in your face
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Mitt Romney will call for an escalation of the conflict in Syria by arming rebels with the heavy weapons needed to confront president Bashar al-Assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.

Romney is to make the proposal on Monday in what his campaign team has billed as a major foreign policy speech in Lexington, Virginia.

In extracts published in advance, he opened up the prospect, if he becomes president, of a US-Iranian proxy war being fought in Syria.

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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #9 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 9:46pm

Obama inherited the situation in Iraq. If anyone wants to blame him for it, they need to look at the Bush Adminstration first. It isn't like Iraq was a peaceful democracy when Obama took over. The invasion was not sold to congress as colonisation. It was supposed to be over in a few years. The United States could not occupy Iraq indefinitely, and when they pulled out most of the troops, the worst Muzlim sch1tz took over. (except around Baghdad.) All the Muzlim head hunters had to do is wait. It was obvious day one.

The problem with Obama is that he's doing the same stupid thing in Syria, and Trump will too.

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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #10 - Aug 11^th, 2016 at 10:02pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

Obama inherited the situation in Iraq. If anyone wants to blame him for it, they need to look at the Bush Adminstration first. It isn't like Iraq was a peaceful democracy when Obama took over.

The USA withdrew from Iraq in late 2011 under Obama, the Caliphate was declared on June 29 2014.

The caliphate was declared under Democrat rule, the Islamic revolution in Iran happened under Democrats.

I started this thread in 2012 which had posters over the Middle east saying Iraq is safe, take note of what our former Islam moderator Abu Rashid said-
ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1347877013

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Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS
Reply #11 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 7:00am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 10:02pm:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 9:46pm:

Obama inherited the situation in Iraq. If anyone wants to blame him for it, they need to look at the Bush Adminstration first. It isn't like Iraq was a peaceful democracy when Obama took over.

The USA withdrew from Iraq in late 2011 under Obama, the Caliphate was declared on June 29 2014.

The caliphate was declared under Democrat rule, the Islamic revolution in Iran happened under Democrats.

I started this thread in 2012 which had posters over the Middle east saying Iraq is safe, take note of what our former Islam moderator Abu Rashid said-
ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1347877013

Islamic State in Syria was started by Islam.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS Reply #12 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 7:09am Of course radical Islam founded it. Trump's statement is rhetorical. This is an election. But talking about getting the troops home asap and then doing it absolutely created that power vacuum. Obama created the power vacuum, he opened the door for IS.
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Fuzzball Gold Member Offline Posts: 6381 Australia Gender:	Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS Reply #13 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 8:01am bogarde73 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2016 at 7:09am: Obama created the power vacuum, he opened the door for IS. Without doubt, and Clinton was at his side.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74619 Gender:	Re: Trump says Abu bin Obama founded IS Reply #14 - Aug 12^th, 2016 at 8:08am bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2016 at 4:25pm: Granted they shouldn't have been there at all and absolutely the Iraq army shouldn't have been disbanded see boges, you managed to shoot down your own argument before you even started
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