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Reply #75 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:50am
 
All Mods have a responsibility to account for themselves..if you can't do this then not only aren't you a mod but you are not a man...you cannot hide behind the internet...you have a responsibility to explain your actions..if not on a thread then at least in a PM...I expect at least that..if you can't come up with that then I will expose you on here....IP blocking means nothing in this day and age
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Reply #76 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 4:14am
 
ItsAllAboutMe wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:50am:
All Mods have a responsibility to account for themselves..if you can't do this then not only aren't you a mod but you are not a man...you cannot hide behind the internet...you have a responsibility to explain your actions..if not on a thread then at least in a PM...I expect at least that..if you can't come up with that then I will expose you on here....IP blocking means nothing in this day and age


who ARE you. Go away. This NOT about you at all.
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Reply #77 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:36pm
 
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Reply #78 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm
 
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to play devils advocate (and no, I have never strayed)

often if there is infidelity it's because one of the parties is missing something from the relationship. They go looking for it elsewhere.
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Reply #79 - Aug 16th, 2016 at 9:05pm
 
Well I'd agree with that.... recognition of that lack should lead to something more positive than cheating on your partner. Better realise that by dissolving the partnership, than to go on in a dysfunctional pairing, because ultimately it will fall apart anyway. But years of life can be wasted in denial.

Speaking from experience here. Smiley
It becomes a battle... who is the stubbornnest, who is the faithless one. That's why we see so many many bad relationships, when love twists in contempt and even hate.

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Reply #80 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 7:57am
 
Emma wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 9:05pm:
recognition of that lack should lead to something more positive than cheating on your partner



but often they don't recognise the fact until they have cheated. They know they need something, they know they're unhappy about something, but they love their partner and can't quite grasp what it is that's missing until they're getting it from somewhere else.
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Reply #81 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 3:32pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm:
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to play devils advocate (and no, I have never strayed)

often if there is infidelity it's because one of the parties is missing something from the relationship. They go looking for it elsewhere.



Missing something within themselves, actually

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Reply #82 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 3:37pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm:
Fidelity

to play devils advocate (and no, I have never strayed)

often if there is infidelity it's because one of the parties is missing something from the relationship. They go looking for it elsewhere.



Missing something within themselves, actually



That suggests you are single, ZXLX796, yeas?
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Reply #83 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:10pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 3:37pm:
PZ547 wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 3:32pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 16th, 2016 at 8:47pm:
Fidelity

to play devils advocate (and no, I have never strayed)

often if there is infidelity it's because one of the parties is missing something from the relationship. They go looking for it elsewhere.



Missing something within themselves, actually



That suggests you are single, ZXLX796, yeas?



Your post suggests your interpretation of my post has gone through your personal filter


So I'll expand on my initial post:

People who stray blame their betrayed partner

Society makes that easy to do, because the meedya pushes that angle

But the truth is far simpler yet more complex than, 'They were looking for something they couldn't find within their current relationship, that's why they strayed'

No. Something is missing from within the one who strays

They'll claim they and their current partner were no long 'compatible'

They'll claim their current partner has this or that wrong with them

But they remain in jobs they don't enjoy

They remain in their original extended family very often (parents, siblings, in-laws, etc)

They stick with the same group of friends also, even though in private they'll complain about some or all of them

They'll still with the same brand of vehicle, often life long, despite the brand putting out a succession of lemons

They'll stick with the same footy team

They'll stick with the same political team

It's their current partner (and all their previous partners) they won't stick with.  Work that out

Why do they stray?  Dozens of reasons and they'll drone on about them for hours if you let them

Bottom line -- what did they do to salvage their current relationship before straying?

Did they inform their current partner beforehand that they intended to stray?

usually they dodge those questions


Some people get into a relationship in order to sabotage it and hurt someone.  And kids are considered by those people to be collateral damage

They go through life screwing people over.  It's how they gain a feeling of power

and they need that feeling of power (although they'd be the last to recognize what they're all about) because they are inadequate

a series of shallow relationships is all they can handle

Then they get old and no one wants them.  So they moan some more with no one to listen

Relationships aren't a box of Krispy Kreme donuts.  Relationships aren't a hot weekend.  Relationships aren't a part-time, casual job

People want to stray, fine. They must pay the costs. But before they stray, they need to nail their flag to the mast and come clean with their partner, as in, 'Hey babe, I wanna screw this guy/girl at work'

Anything less is gutless and the mark of someone who gets more 'reward' from the fuss, pain and attention they'll gain from their betrayal than from the actual screwing of someone new

because as day follows night, they'll do it to the next one and next one and next one

A relationship is a contract.  Honourable people honour the contracts they've signed

Relationships, like business partnerships, hire-purchase contracts, etc. can result in break-ups

But it's HOW the break-up is managed which is the mark of a human or vermin

Those who betray a partner behind that partner's back fail to make the grade

If people stepped up and made their position clear from the outset a lot of life's pain would be ameliorated

No one likes to be backstabbed in politics, sports, friendships or anything else

Infidelity is the ultimate backstab. Which is why some choose to be backstabbers.  They need to cause pain.  Because there's something wrong with, something missing, inside themselves

they yelp like angry cats when it happens to them

and it usually does
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Reply #84 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:34pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:10pm:
People who stray blame their betrayed partner



I wasn't talking about blame, compatibility or justification as to why. I'm talking about what leads one to make that decision. Many times they aren't even aware of why they stray, they only know that they do. They know it feels right at the time. Most people who are totally satisfied physically and emotionally in their relationships, will never stray.

It's usually nothing that can't be resolved with good communication skills

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Reply #85 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:22pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:34pm:
PZ547 wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:10pm:
People who stray blame their betrayed partner



I wasn't talking about blame, compatibility or justification as to why. I'm talking about what leads one to make that decision. Many times they aren't even aware of why they stray, they only know that they do. They know it feels right at the time. Most people who are totally satisfied physically and emotionally in their relationships, will never stray.

It's usually nothing that can't be resolved with good communication skills



Find that hard to believe. Really? How could they NOT BE AWARE..? They want it, and rather than try to meet their partner half-way, they stray. Like Tom Cats, not like thinking human beings.


  I think PZ547 has pretty much got it covered. A reasoned and well-written post.


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Reply #86 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:23pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:34pm:
PZ547 wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 4:10pm:
People who stray blame their betrayed partner



I wasn't talking about blame, compatibility or justification as to why. I'm talking about what leads one to make that decision. Many times they aren't even aware of why they stray, they only know that they do. They know it feels right at the time. Most people who are totally satisfied physically and emotionally in their relationships, will never stray.

It's usually nothing that can't be resolved with good communication skills


  Boredom creeps into relationships-simple- after many years with the same partner they want a new conquest  new thrill--not rocket science-- it is innately in most men to want to cheat, they have to fight the urge. Given the the opportunity and if they think they wont be found out, they will most likely cheat. Women the same- I am a loyal partner, so I have never cheated, but there are temptations out there and people do cave sometimes.  It doesn't have to be someones fault, boredom is boredom and as for whose fault is it- the one who is married is at fault , it is he/she who stands to lose after all- if looking for fault then that is pointless- if you don't tend the garden of marriage then if the wheels fall off well then - look at yourself no one else.
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Reply #87 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:43pm
 
Agnes wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
It doesn't have to be someones fault, boredom is boredom and as for whose fault is it- the one who is married is at fault , it is he/she who stands to lose after all- if looking for fault then that is pointless- if you don't tend the garden of marriage then if the wheels fall off well then - look at yourself no one else.


Which 'self' do you mean Sarge, the married cheater or the betrayed?.
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Reply #88 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:50pm
 
Emma wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:43pm:
Agnes wrote on Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
It doesn't have to be someones fault, boredom is boredom and as for whose fault is it- the one who is married is at fault , it is he/she who stands to lose after all- if looking for fault then that is pointless- if you don't tend the garden of marriage then if the wheels fall off well then - look at yourself no one else.


Which 'self' do you mean Sarge, the married cheater or the betrayed?.

  The one lamenting the demise of the relationship Peel.. the one who cheated is obviously having all the fun..what do you think?
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Reply #89 - Aug 17th, 2016 at 9:59pm
 
If the cheating partner is having fun for now, their happiness will be short lived.
So I can only take from your reply tho, that you think the one cheated upon is the one to (blame) look at themselves.  Funny that.. a bit of a one-way street eh?

You are betrayed, you are responsible. I'll refer you back to the recent post by PZ547, whose comments are worth re-reading.

Are you saying boredom and not getting enough sex  relieves the cheater of any responsibility?. Sounds like it to me.

What about the commitments made in marriage?. Is temporary pleasure , perhaps leading to another relationship,
a sign of a decent person?. 

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