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Reply #15 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:09pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

I wouldnt hold this of indicative that Naturopaths are all idiots. Conventional medical Doctors fail to cure patients all the time. On this occasion this naturopath may well be an idiot, but I know a few Doctors just as stupid, if I had of taken their advice I would probably be dead or severely crippled.

Yes there are bad doctors within the system, but the entire system of naturopathy is flawed and unscientific.
That's why anyone who follows it is an idiot.

Are all Christians idiots, Gordy?

Are they naturopaths?

Their system is flawed and unscientific.

Answer the question, Gordy: are all Christians idiots?

This is a topic about naturopaths. Open one about Christians ignore you'd like to ask a question about them.

You introduced the concept of "flawed and unscientific".

Don't back out now, Gordy - it's just getting interesting.

Christianity - like all religions - is flawed and unscientific.

So, according to your - and I'm being as generous as I can here - "logic", all Christians are idiots.

Are you now going back on your claim, or are you admitting you made a mistake.

I'm curious.

Ask a Christian. I'm not one and never have been.

You're not a naturopath either.

I know 2 people who've been killed by them tho.

How?

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Reply #16 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:06pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

I wouldnt hold this of indicative that Naturopaths are all idiots. Conventional medical Doctors fail to cure patients all the time. On this occasion this naturopath may well be an idiot, but I know a few Doctors just as stupid, if I had of taken their advice I would probably be dead or severely crippled.

Yes there are bad doctors within the system, but the entire system of naturopathy is flawed and unscientific.
That's why anyone who follows it is an idiot.

Are all Christians idiots, Gordy?

Are they naturopaths?

Their system is flawed and unscientific.

Answer the question, Gordy: are all Christians idiots?

This is a topic about naturopaths. Open one about Christians ignore you'd like to ask a question about them.

You introduced the concept of "flawed and unscientific".

Don't back out now, Gordy - it's just getting interesting.

Christianity - like all religions - is flawed and unscientific.

So, according to your - and I'm being as generous as I can here - "logic", all Christians are idiots.

Are you now going back on your claim, or are you admitting you made a mistake.

I'm curious.

Ask a Christian. I'm not one and never have been.

You're not a naturopath either.

Gordy:

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I know an awful lot about naturopaths android the bunk they peddle.

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Reply #17 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:12pm

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:53pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:41pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

I wouldnt hold this of indicative that Naturopaths are all idiots. Conventional medical Doctors fail to cure patients all the time. On this occasion this naturopath may well be an idiot, but I know a few Doctors just as stupid, if I had of taken their advice I would probably be dead or severely crippled.

Yes there are bad doctors within the system, but the entire system of naturopathy is flawed and unscientific.
That's why anyone who follows it is an idiot.

Are all Christians idiots, Gordy?

Are they naturopaths?

Their system is flawed and unscientific.

Answer the question, Gordy: are all Christians idiots?

This is a topic about naturopaths. Open one about Christians ignore you'd like to ask a question about them.

You introduced the concept of "flawed and unscientific".

Don't back out now, Gordy - it's just getting interesting.

Christianity - like all religions - is flawed and unscientific.

So, according to your - and I'm being as generous as I can here - "logic", all Christians are idiots.

Are you now going back on your claim, or are you admitting you made a mistake.

I'm curious.

Ask a Christian. I'm not one and never have been.

You're not a naturopath either.

I know 2 people who've been killed by them tho.

How?

By pushing homeopathic bullllshitt remedies and advising NOT to use science based medicine.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35600 Gender:	Re: Naturopaths are idiots Reply #18 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:16pm So they werent actually killed by the naturopath's. They died because of diseases they had that they chose alternative treatment for. Would that be more accurate Gordy? Or did the naturopaths force them in some way?
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Reply #19 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:19pm

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

So they werent actually killed by the naturopath's. They died because of diseases they had that they chose alternative treatment for.

Would that be more accurate Gordy?

Or did the naturopath's force them in some way?

Yes the DPP couldn't prosecute so as usual you're 100% correct. Happy?

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Reply #20 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:23pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

So they werent actually killed by the naturopath's. They died because of diseases they had that they chose alternative treatment for.

Would that be more accurate Gordy?

Or did the naturopath's force them in some way?

Yes the DPP couldn't prosecute so as usual you're 100% correct. Happy?

Nobody is happy that they died.

It's terribly sad.

However, you're shifting the blame (as usual).

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Reply #21 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:26pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

So they werent actually killed by the naturopath's. They died because of diseases they had that they chose alternative treatment for.

Would that be more accurate Gordy?

Or did the naturopath's force them in some way?

Yes the DPP couldn't prosecute so as usual you're 100% correct. Happy?

Why would I be happy that two people died?

Moreover, why would you accuse naturopath's of killing them when it is abundantly clear that they did not?

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Reply #22 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:33pm

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:16pm:

So they werent actually killed by the naturopath's. They died because of diseases they had that they chose alternative treatment for.

Would that be more accurate Gordy?

Or did the naturopath's force them in some way?

Yes the DPP couldn't prosecute so as usual you're 100% correct. Happy?

Why would I be happy that two people died?

Moreover, why would you accuse naturopath's of killing them when it is abundantly clear that they did not?

The case I know of very well, the naturapath was very well trusted by the person who died from a condition EASILY controlled by meds. The person died of their gullibility for putting their trust in the care of a naturopath.

Would you care to state your opinion of naturapthy?

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Reply #23 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 10:09pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:39pm:

rhino wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 8:30pm:

I wouldnt hold this of indicative that Naturopaths are all idiots. Conventional medical Doctors fail to cure patients all the time. On this occasion this naturopath may well be an idiot, but I know a few Doctors just as stupid, if I had of taken their advice I would probably be dead or severely crippled.

Yes there are bad doctors within the system, but the entire system of naturopathy is flawed and unscientific.
That's why anyone who follows it is an idiot.

Unscientific just means unknown or unproven to science. Theres no basis to claim that the entire system of naturopathy is flawed .

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Naturopaths are idiots Reply #24 - Aug 15^th, 2016 at 11:35pm alternative health practitioners can be useful if only because they don't buy into the "learned helplessness" mindset that affects patients and doctors alike ...
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Naturopaths are idiots Reply #25 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:04am I once knew an osteopath who was an A1 certified idiot. He ended up going to jail.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75295 Gender:	Re: Naturopaths are idiots Reply #26 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:08am mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:26pm: Moreover, why would you accuse naturopath's of killing them when it is abundantly clear that they did not? semantics . If the naturopath advised the patient to not follow the doctors orders and the result led to their death, the naturopath may as well have killed them themselves
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Naturopaths are idiots Reply #27 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:11am The first things you need know about your naturopath are whether they believe in aroma-therapy, and have they seen a flying saucer.
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Reply #28 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:38am

John Smith wrote on Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:08am:

mothra wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 9:26pm:

Moreover, why would you accuse naturopath's of killing them when it is abundantly clear that they did not?

semantics . If the naturopath advised the patient to not follow the doctors orders and the result led to their death, the naturopath may as well have killed them themselves

Nah.

It's advice, not an order.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Naturopaths are idiots Reply #29 - Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:59am bogarde73 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2016 at 8:04am: I once knew an osteopath who was an A1 certified idiot. He ended up going to jail. my dentist wears a toupee
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