The problem with men (at least as far as women are concerned) is that women reward the wrong behaviour.

women reward certain "behaviours" and there may be nothing backing up those "behaviours".

so a guy who has worked on himself, smart, well - travelled, confident and with a good work ethic ...this guy should be entitled to act with the behaviours of a "great man" and women should be attracted.

But what if a little lying douche bag, weed dealing chump who has never done sh*t, just starts acting with these "behaviours".....chances are he will be rewarded , at least initially.

Now what if a guy is very kind, generous , will do anything for the girl, is super into her and sends her flowers and chocolates 5 times a day....she will actually not be excited by this guy, she may see him as low status, she may see him as desperate, possibly will get clingy and needy.

paradox much.

so women are actually rewarding douche bag behaviour by operating on the paradigm that "nice guys finish last".
Most guys would gladly be "nice guys " if they got kudos for it, but they eventually learn it just doesnt work.

There are a lot of guys out there who swallowed the social narrative, wifed up the girlfriend and then , because he didnt have much of a spine, she lost attraction, took his stuff and left him pretty confused and bitter.
Then he probably wasnt as nice the second time round.

the problem with men is that they havent been trained properly by their trainers.  women have rewarded the wrong behaviours ....thats not really their fault, its just the way they are made.
they do not act logically in the dating and relationship game and guys soon learn to use this illogical frame to their advantage...well, the douche bag guys soon learn how to do it

Aussie wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 7:23pm:


,  women find "nice guy, supplicating behaviour," disgusting and then , in the next breath complain that men dont act nice and supplicate to them  .

the problem is that men need to be on their grind and NOT make the woman the number 1 mission in their lives.  BUT women will TELL men they want the man to make her the number 1 mission in their lives.

This confusion  IS the problem and this confusion is directly the result of women THINKING they are being logical , when in fact they are just responding to their emotions .

So men who can change a womans emotions (ie guys who play these games) are both desired by women and also hated by women.

This is the paradox .

The social narrative is not the truth in reality.

freediver wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 8:30pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 4:07pm:



You are being a bit shallow there Nicole.
Or is that what the media feeds you?

Mistress Nicole wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 4:07pm:


I'm sure there is

Fishing.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 4:07pm:


Collingwood?