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Reply #15 - Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:10pm

Privatisation always ends in the consumers paying more and the government losing revenue that they then have to gouge out of tax payers in some other fashion while complaining about the bottom line of the budget.

It really has been proven to be a lose lose situation where the only people better off are the investors in the purchasing interests.

There is no known case of privatisation in Australia where the consumer and the country have not finished much worse off.

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Reply #16 - Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:12pm

Swagman wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 4:24pm:

The private sector makes up the majority of the economy. There are literally millions of examples Grin

Go visit North Korea......there's no privatization there....compare the difference... Grin

good way to avoid the issue Swag .... even in your make believe world you can't name one example where it worked for the benefit of the consumer.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59736 Here Gender:	Re: Is privatization all bad ? Reply #17 - Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:13pm juliar wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 11:34am: Mr Smith, what about the Comm Bank, Telstra, Qantas, Medibank, etc. ? Some of the biggest disasters we have had.
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Reply #18 - Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:14pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Swagman wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 4:24pm:

The private sector makes up the majority of the economy. There are literally millions of examples Grin

Go visit North Korea......there's no privatization there....compare the difference... Grin

good way to avoid the issue Swag .... even in your make believe world you can't name one example where it worked for the benefit of the consumer.

That is not a fair question John - you know that there are no examples of that, it never happened.

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Reply #19 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 8:21am

John Smith wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:12pm:

Swagman wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 4:24pm:

The private sector makes up the majority of the economy. There are literally millions of examples Grin

Go visit North Korea......there's no privatization there....compare the difference... Grin

good way to avoid the issue Swag .... even in your make believe world you can't name one example where it worked for the benefit of the consumer.

Ah no Smithy it's you that are avoiding the issue by ignoring the fact this it is private enterprise that makes up the majority of the economy.

It employs the most people and it pays the most taxes directly and indirectly.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 9:13pm:

juliar wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2016 at 11:34am:

Mr Smith,

what about the Comm Bank, Telstra, Qantas, Medibank, etc. ?

Some of the biggest disasters we have had.

Why are they disasters? If they were disasters they would fold?

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Reply #20 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:53am

Swagman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 8:21am:

Ah no Smithy it's you that are avoiding the issue by ignoring the fact this it is private enterprise that makes up the majority of the economy.

It employs the most people and it pays the most taxes directly and indirectly.

and?

we aren't talking about private enterprise and what portion of the economy they represent, we are talking about privatising government assets. Now ca you name ONE example whereby the consumer is better off after privatisation has occurred?

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Reply #21 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 12:05pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 10:53am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 8:21am:

Ah no Smithy it's you that are avoiding the issue by ignoring the fact this it is private enterprise that makes up the majority of the economy.

It employs the most people and it pays the most taxes directly and indirectly.

and?

we aren't talking about private enterprise and what portion of the economy they represent, we are talking about privatising government assets. Now ca you name ONE example whereby the consumer is better off after privatisation has occurred?

Commonwealth Bank of Australia
Commonwealth Industrial Gases
Commonwealth Oil Refineries
Commonwealth Serum Laboratories
Electricity and natural gas supply companies in Victoria
Government Cleaning Service in New South Wales
Government Insurance Office in New South Wales
Government Printing Service in New South Wales
Public transport in Melbourne
Qantas
Sydney Airport
Telstra
State-owned betting-agencies in most states
Many long-distance and urban passenger railway services
All freight railway services
Most State-owned banks

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Reply #22 - Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 12:20pm

Swagman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2016 at 12:05pm:

Commonwealth Bank of Australia
Commonwealth Industrial Gases
Commonwealth Oil Refineries
Commonwealth Serum Laboratories
Electricity and natural gas supply companies in Victoria
Government Cleaning Service in New South Wales
Government Insurance Office in New South Wales
Government Printing Service in New South Wales
Public transport in Melbourne
Qantas
Sydney Airport
Telstra
State-owned betting-agencies in most states
Many long-distance and urban passenger railway services
All freight railway services
Most State-owned banks

and with not a single one of them is the consumer better off.

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