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Re: Trump goes to Mexico
Reply #30 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:29pm
 
Marla wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 9:07am:
Oh look! It's Boey, Herbie, and the Sprint Man on the sidelines.
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Bogie and Herbie are both ex-members of Nazi-affiliated white nationalist groups. Sprint's a follower.

Strangely enough, all three are immigrants.
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Reply #31 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:33pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:22pm:
The interesting question is why you can't see you're so so wrong on this issue.

Now, here's what Hannity had to say to the NeverTrumpers:

Conservative talk radio host Sean Hannity said Tuesday he is naming names if Hillary Clinton is elected president because other conservatives have criticized him for supporting Donald Trump now that he's the Republican nominee.

In Hannity's monologue, he slammed commentators such as National Review's Jonah Goldberg and radio host Glenn Beck, and said he will hold them accountable if Clinton is elected.

"You own Hillary Clinton's Supreme Court appointments. You own it!" he said in remarks reported by Business Insider. "You are doing everything you can do to cast doubt in people's minds! Trump gave us a list. You own her Supreme Court nominees, you own her un-vetted refugees and the 550% increase she will bring into this country."
Hannity went on to say members of the #NeverTrump movement would own jobs taken by illegal immigrants, Obamacare, joblessness and more.
"Because you're helping elect her," he said. "And I'm also saying that, hey, we have a $4,100 increase in healthcare payments since Obama has been president. It's only going to go higher. You get responsibility for that, too! We have got 12 million more Americans on food stamps. If that increases, I'm going to blame you! We have 46 million total. Eight million more Americans living in poverty. Fifty million Americans in poverty. If that gets worse, I'm blaming you! You know, we have the worst home ownership in 51 years. If that gets worse, guess who I'm blaming? I'm blaming all of you!"
Hannity pushed aside criticism that he has unfairly backed Trump against other Republicans.

While he admitted to giving Trump time on his show, he said he gave time to every other Republican as well.

Trump's agenda is "infinitely better" than Clinton's, he said. "And if you can't see that, then that's your problem. You own it. You own her. You own every dumb thing she's about to do. I blame you. Got it? I am going to name names regularly if she wins."

And he said he'll take the blame and responsibility if Trump wins and does not keep his promises.

"OK? Gladly," he said. "I will proudly pull the lever for Trump."



Fox News, fair and balanced.
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Reply #32 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:17pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 11:52am:
The interesting question is why Marla has this fixation about Nazi uniforms and the people in them.


It's the rampant phallic symbol of the Nazi salute that gets her pulse racing.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 11:52am:
Is it lust after a strong male figure?


Of course it is, but I've made myself clear to her that unless it's an All Expences Paid deal - including 1st Class Air Fare - she can whistle Dixie so far as I'm concerned.

But then how about Aquascoot? He knows how to treat a lady ... a little bit of stirrup, a little flick of the rein, a light touch of the crop, and a few whispered words in their shell-like ear ... and that's all before bed-time.

... But then again, her being a Street Feral and all, I'm not too sure how he would treat Marla. He may have to resort to using a cattle-prod to bring out the best in her.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 11:52am:
Maybe she is looking for a putsch.


Quit the dirty talk, bogey - there are ladies present.




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Reply #33 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:23pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:33pm:
Fox News, fair and balanced.


Exactly.

Even when the truth hurts.
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Reply #34 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:28pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:23pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:33pm:
Fox News, fair and balanced.


Exactly.

Even when the truth hurts.


Which truth is that, Herbie ? The truth that Hannity "will proudly pull the lever for Trump"?

Do you think such lever-pulling might include stretching the truth a bit?
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Reply #35 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Which truth is that, Herbie ? The truth that Hannity "will proudly pull the lever for Trump"?

Do you think such lever-pulling might include stretching the truth a bit?


Stop panicking.

There isn't a single, solitary institution in the West that isn't in the firm grip of Leftwing bureaucrats, ministers, Union Bosses, True Believers - and women like Marla who fantasise about a Perfect World in which we all play ring-a-ring-o'roses all day long. 
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Reply #36 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:43pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:49pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 2:28pm:
Which truth is that, Herbie ? The truth that Hannity "will proudly pull the lever for Trump"?

Do you think such lever-pulling might include stretching the truth a bit?


Stop panicking.

There isn't a single, solitary institution in the West that isn't in the firm grip of Leftwing bureaucrats, ministers, Union Bosses, True Believers - and women like Marla who fantasise about a Perfect World in which we all play ring-a-ring-o'roses all day long. 


Union bosses? In Amerika?

No one's panicking over Fox News' endorsement of Trump, Herb, it's just a bit rich to declare yourself as a Trump mouthpiece and fair and balanced, wouldn't you say?
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Reply #37 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:50pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:43pm:
Union bosses? In Amerika?

No one's panicking over Fox News' endorsement of Trump, Herb, it's just a bit rich to declare yourself as a Trump mouthpiece and fair and balanced, wouldn't you say?



If Trump was such an ogre, our US Correspondent in Denver, Colorado - to wit, Ms Marla Marijuana - would be telling us how she just can't WAIT to vote for Clinton.

Trump is a show-pony more than anything else, and once inside the Oval Office, all his braggadocio will go up in smoke just like one of Marla's tokes.

Just watch this space.
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Reply #38 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:50pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:43pm:
Union bosses? In Amerika?

No one's panicking over Fox News' endorsement of Trump, Herb, it's just a bit rich to declare yourself as a Trump mouthpiece and fair and balanced, wouldn't you say?



If Trump was such an ogre, our US Correspondent in Denver, Colorado - to wit, Ms Marla Marijuana - would be telling us how she just can't WAIT to vote for Clinton.

Trump is a show-pony more than anything else, and once inside the Oval Office, all his braggadocio will go up in smoke just like one of Marla's tokes.

Just watch this space.


That's a good observation, Herb. If Trump makes the White House nothing he's promising will come to fruition.

This makes me curious. Why would people support a politician like that?
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Reply #39 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
If Trump makes the White House nothing he's promising will come to fruition.



...

That's a subjective opinion.

Do you have any valid corroboration that supports or lends credence to your personal theory, outside of your own fertile imagination?  Roll Eyes

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Reply #40 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:24pm
 
Panther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
If Trump makes the White House nothing he's promising will come to fruition.



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That's a subjective opinion.

Do you have any valid corroboration that supports or lends credence to your personal theory, outside of your own fertile imagination?  Roll Eyes



Have you read any of his policies?
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Reply #41 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:47pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:
Panther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
If Trump makes the White House nothing he's promising will come to fruition.



http://i.imgur.com/5oDcsFM.gif

That's a subjective opinion.

Do you have any valid corroboration that supports or lends credence to your personal theory, outside of your own fertile imagination?  Roll Eyes



Have you read any of his policies?


We can discuss his policies at length (
relevant to this thread's topic
"Trump goes to Mexico"
of course
) only after you show some corroboration for your previous position....basis for your personal observation, & I quote  ".... If Trump makes the White House  nothing  he's promising will come to fruition. ......"   Wink

Do you have any valid corroboration, or is it just your own fertile imagination at play?  ...



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Reply #42 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 6:26pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
That's a good observation, Herb. If Trump makes the White House nothing he's promising will come to fruition.


Korrect. Correct.

Between the electioneering bluster and the actual execution of his promises there's a cosmic distance that needs to be traversed - with a thousand backroom bureaucrats militating against anything they think is a little excessive.

The US Presidency is not an autocracy.

Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
This makes me curious. Why would people support a politician like that?


Like what?

Have you seen the documentaries on America's jails? Absolutely bulging with criminal gang members from Cuba and South America.

And then for how long should the Americans live in fear of a Muslim bomb or shooter at their local shopping centre? More Muslims means a bigger pool from which these nutters are incubated.


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Reply #43 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 6:26pm
 
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Trump’s Mexican Trade Show:
More Presidential Than Hillary’s Ever Been



Source: The Observer    Quote:
.........At some point in a presidential campaign, Democrats accuse every Republican candidate of racism and consorting with the KKK—to say this smear isn’t a standard Democratic campaign ploy is to wage war on honesty. Hillary once called Democratic Senator and former Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Robert Byrd “a friend and mentor,” but that historical irony seems lost on MSNBC commentators. Trump’s tackling of illegal immigration makes him an easy target. His Mexico City trade show blunts the smears. He gets a win in the trade deal.

In retrospect, the key phrase is this: “rabbit-out-of-the-hat electioneering magic Democrats fear Donald Trump can pull.”

That’s the fear. Trump’s unfettered mouth is his worst political enemy. His showmanship is his political genius.
At The Mexican Trade Show Trump looked presidential, and far more so than Hillary ever has.
    Note that President Pena also invited Clinton, but she didn’t show.   If she’d come she’d have had to face the media and someone just might have asked her about The Clinton Foundation or Benghazi…Which segues into “up her Benghazi,” a fill-in-the-blank expletive. Feel free to use it.

*  *  *

In the third week of August, Hillary’s campaign hit Trump with a barrage of racism charges. Media were wrestling with new revelations of her State Department’s hand in glove connivance with The Clinton Foundation—The State-Foundation, I named it.

Hillary’s outrageous accusations erased headline discussions of Clinton Foundation corruption, and that was her tactical goal. The liberal mainstream media followed her lead. It’s the Media Privilege Democrats enjoy.

Donald Trump, however, is the rare Republican nominee who possesses media judo. With one move he can shift campaign momentum and in the process shatter a mainstream media narrative. His Mexican Trade Show is just the latest example........

It was international free trade—the free and open trade of political favors. I’m referring to the live from Mexico City two-man television talk show and press conference co-hosted by U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump and Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.

The Trump-Pena trade show coincided with the 271st day of an American domestic no-show. 271 is (by one count) the number of days that had passed since Hillary Clinton’s last stand up, unscripted press conference.


As I write this column, the usual menagerie of mainstream media are struggling to interpret the verbally unscripted Trump-Pena trade show. Get a clue: the trade show’s thoroughly scripted video imagery dominates the words. Mainstream media in their respective countries portrayed Trump and Pena as inevitable antagonists. Think of that as a Campaign 2016 mainstream media narrative truth.

To the deep dismay of mainstream spinsters on both sides of the Rio Grande, the nattily-dressed Pena and sartorially-appropriate Trump smiled, remained calm, and treated each other with respectful dignity. In fact, they were rather darn friendly—tough guy friendly. Though they held the show on Enrique’s home turf, Donald more or less emceed (with interpreters), which seemed to work for both men. Did we witness open diplomacy? I think so—a rare example of authentic open diplomacy, where both men win. Dare we call it Art Of The Deal?........

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Reply #44 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 6:27pm
 
Panther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:47pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:24pm:
Panther wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
If Trump makes the White House nothing he's promising will come to fruition.



http://i.imgur.com/5oDcsFM.gif

That's a subjective opinion.

Do you have any valid corroboration that supports or lends credence to your personal theory, outside of your own fertile imagination?  Roll Eyes



Have you read any of his policies?


We can discuss his policies (relevant to this thread's topic "Trump goes to Mexico") only after you show some corroboration for your previous position....basis for your personal observation, & I quote  ".... If Trump makes the White House [i]nothing he's promising will come to fruition. ......   Wink[/i]




No worries. Let's discuss my observations as they relate to Trump's policy on Mexico. Trump met with the Mexican president last week. The prez told him that Mexico would not be paying for Trump's whacky wall idea. Sorry, Mr Trump, it's not happening.

A few hours later, Trump gave his big immigration speech, where he emphasized the words, to great applause, AND I WILL GET MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL.

Now Trump, remember, is the great negotiator. He's campaigning on his skills in the art of the deal. He told everyone he hadn't yet discussed the wall with Mexico, and there it was from the words of the Mexican president: the first thing he told Trump when he met him is Mexico wouldn't be paying for anything.

Now, presumably Trump had a bit of a giggle and told the Mexican president not to worry, They'd work it out. Let's see what happens after the US election.

But when he fronted the American people with his big campaign speech on one of the few policies he has: the wall with Mexico, he told a big white lie. Mexico would be paying for his wall.

Now Trump's not doing a property deal over a golf course or a casino, he's announcing his campaign policies to become the president of the US of A. The big question is how Trump's going to get Mexico to foot the bill for the wall, or get China to float the Yuan, or make Japan and South Korea spend more on arms, or the myriad of foreign policies Trump promises without a single explanation of how.

Trump is playing this by ear. He's flying by the seat of his pants. He says these things not because they make sound policy, but because he gets a few cheers. The shock jocks love him, Fox News presenters gush, and his comments go viral on Facebook and Twitter.

Trump isn't saying these things because he intends to make them happen, he's saying them because he loves the applause. This is not about creating rational, or even doable, policy, it's about ratings.

Trump isn't telling you how or why because he doesn't know himself, as if any of this matters. He's a huckster, a sideshow carny. He'll talk up the real, live mermaid behind the screen, and when you get inside to check her out, you can see her legs under her fake rubber tail. You know you've been conned, but what can you do? You walked straight into that one. You can only blame yourself.

We all know Trump's not a politician, but a salesman. What I suspect, however, is that he doesn't want to be president at all. All this - the deportations, the Muslim bannings, the wall, he doesn't plan to do any of it because he doesn't really want to get in. All Trump wants is a bigger slice of the audience share.

After this election, the American people will have a lot to think about, but those with the most to ponder are Republicans themselves. How could they have been so cheated?
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