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Reply #15 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 9:57am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:17am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:47am:

BTW did you move to the work or sit on your @rse demanding the work come to you, because one of those ways is not conducive to finding work quickly.

not always an option when you have dependent kids or a wife with her own career

Then there they will stay, but do not complain about your situation if you are not willing to do something about it. I do and I work with a lot of people who also make the effort and that's what makes us employable in our 50s and 60s.

And we are talking about people in their 50s here, not a lot of those with kids in school, and if they have 30+ year old dependents at home, well more fool them.

Everyone can come up with an excuse for not doing something, socialist ideology is taught in every school in the country, but at some point we have to discard the poor bugger me mentality and get on with it.

meanwhile others will deal with reality

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Reply #16 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:04am

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 9:57am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:17am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:47am:

BTW did you move to the work or sit on your @rse demanding the work come to you, because one of those ways is not conducive to finding work quickly.

not always an option when you have dependent kids or a wife with her own career

Then there they will stay, but do not complain about your situation if you are not willing to do something about it. I do and I work with a lot of people who also make the effort and that's what makes us employable in our 50s and 60s.

And we are talking about people in their 50s here, not a lot of those with kids in school, and if they have 30+ year old dependents at home, well more fool them.

Everyone can come up with an excuse for not doing something, socialist ideology is taught in every school in the country, but at some point we have to discard the poor bugger me mentality and get on with it.

meanwhile others will deal with reality

That is the reality; you are the master of your own destiny; you can roll over like a dog or stand up like a man, the choice is always yours.

Obviously most will roll over and complain bitterly about hard done by they are. It will always be someone else's fault and there will always be an excuse, but at the end of the day. It is their actions that set them on their path, no-one else's.

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Reply #17 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:51am

The oligarchy want to bring the middle class to their knees.

Everything that's taking place right here and now is centred around this philosophy.

The middle class must go................ Cry

And the other piece of the puzzle is,

Don't worry about him, just worry about yourself.

Its the only way this can be achieved.

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Reply #18 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:54am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:04am:

That is the reality; you are the master of your own destiny; you can roll over like a dog or stand up like a man, the choice is always yours.

that's a load of bullshit ... life isn't black and white no matter how much you wish it so. You haven't explained to me what you do if your wife has a career going in Cairns and you get a job in Perth, and i know you tried to pretend that kids don't matter, but avoiding the issue doesn't make it go away ...

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #19 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 11:37am I am older and I have a job. I would be in trouble if I lost it. I am looking for work still and its tough out there at the moment,,, case hardened in WA. As for buying a job, I have thought about it and got cold feet.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #20 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 11:54am I'm sorry to disagree with you Lieut (Rtd), but this seems to be an eminently suitable topic for the General Board, instead of being consigned to the boondocks.
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Reply #21 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:24pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:54am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:04am:

That is the reality; you are the master of your own destiny; you can roll over like a dog or stand up like a man, the choice is always yours.

that's a load of bullshit ... life isn't black and white no matter how much you wish it so. You haven't explained to me what you do if your wife has a career going in Cairns and you get a job in Perth, and i know you tried to pretend that kids don't matter, but avoiding the issue doesn't make it go away ...

As in what DID I do, I was fly in fly out for a whole year until we could get sh1t sorted. I do what I have to do. And it was Townsville / Darwin, before that Townsville / Bowen Basin and before that Townsville / PNG, I don't make excuses.

Why the fkk anyone has school age children in their 50s and 60s, I do not know, prolly a lack of proper planning which is why they can't seem to get their sh1t sorted in the first place. Mind you ask anyone with a wife & children who served in the ADF this same question they will have the same contempt for your lack of spine as I do. They get things done.

Being a little socialist princess has not helped you in life at all, has it? What you consider impossible most of us consider only a minor hurdle.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106611 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #22 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:17pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:42am: And there you waited for 8 months - unemployed; this was your choice, no-one else's Do not blame others for your choices. It was too risky to up & move for an unknown job - it's like chasing a rainbow. You are forgiven for presumptions namaste
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Reply #23 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:42am:

And there you waited for 8 months - unemployed; this was your choice, no-one else's

Do not blame others for your choices.

It was too risky to up & move for an unknown job -

it's like chasing a rainbow.

You are forgiven for presumptions

namaste

No it isn't.

Do not blame others for your decisions.

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Reply #24 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:11pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:42am:

And there you waited for 8 months - unemployed; this was your choice, no-one else's

Do not blame others for your choices.

It was too risky to up & move for an unknown job -

it's like chasing a rainbow.

You are forgiven for presumptions

namaste

No it isn't.

Do not blame others for your decisions.

I always blame others - just George Carlin:

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Reply #25 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:42am:

And there you waited for 8 months - unemployed; this was your choice, no-one else's

Do not blame others for your choices.

It was too risky to up & move for an unknown job -

it's like chasing a rainbow.

You are forgiven for presumptions

namaste

No it isn't.

Do not blame others for your decisions.

I always blame others - just George Carlin:

I know you do, that is why you are where you are in life, always blaming someone else.

Try taking some responsibility for yourself every now and again and see how that turns out. You won't be crying about some dole you did not get or whatever bleat of the week you got going on

You will just realise it isn't them it is you, you are responsible for you, it is called being an adult.

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Reply #26 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:26pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:24pm:

As in what DID I do, I was fly in fly out for a whole year until we could get sh1t sorted. I do what I have to do. And it was Townsville / Darwin, before that Townsville / Bowen Basin and before that Townsville / PNG, I don't make excuses.

fly in fly out might work short term when the salary is enough to cover the cost of travel, but long term it's unsustainable ... not when you add the rent in one city plus the mortgage in another, most jobs however don't even pay the average wage, let alone enough to cover the extras .. as for your 'a year to sort it out bullsh1t, I'm sure you think that sounds like a solution but in the real world it's not, probably because you don't want to admit that in most cases it's either you give up your career, or the wife gives up hers ... as for school aged children on their fifties ... I'm 46 and my oldest is 7 yrs old, by the time I'm 55 my oldest he will be 16 .... it might have worked out fine for you having kids when you were 20, but guess what nimbscull, not every one did. People are waiting until they're older to have kids these days, we didn't have the army to put a roof over our heads or feed us when we were younger ... if you'd ever read anything more than a defense force rag you might actually know what the real world is up to.

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Reply #27 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:50pm

Raising the retirement age has nothing to do with how long people live. Its about saving money, and if most people died at seventy, the number crunchers would still look for a way to justify raising the retirement age.

The fact is, getting old sucks, no matter how well off you are. You might live to be 93, but your knees and lower back would have been shot by about 50, so don't go looking for a job at 60 that requires being on your feet for most of the working day.

The way it is supposed to work is like this: You study till about 22, work your way up in a business or specialty that makes you an expert who teaches the young. At the same time, your job gets more comfortable. That means you have to be learning continually.

Believe it or not, the Boomers are dying off. Many of my friends and Heroes from that ge-ge-generation are gone. There are very few of their parents around anymore. Once half the Boomers are gone, a new dynamic will begin to affect society.

Life is a series of waves on a sea of humanity. You have to catch it when it comes through, and ride it as long as you can, but sooner or later, you are going to fall off.

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Reply #28 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:42pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:24pm:

As in what DID I do, I was fly in fly out for a whole year until we could get sh1t sorted. I do what I have to do. And it was Townsville / Darwin, before that Townsville / Bowen Basin and before that Townsville / PNG, I don't make excuses.

fly in fly out might work short term when the salary is enough to cover the cost of travel, but long term it's unsustainable ... not when you add the rent in one city plus the mortgage in another, most jobs however don't even pay the average wage, let alone enough to cover the extras .. as for your 'a year to sort it out bullsh1t, I'm sure you think that sounds like a solution but in the real world it's not, probably because you don't want to admit that in most cases it's either you give up your career, or the wife gives up hers ... as for school aged children on their fifties ... I'm 46 and my oldest is 7 yrs old, by the time I'm 55 my oldest he will be 16 .... it might have worked out fine for you having kids when you were 20, but guess what nimbscull, not every one did. People are waiting until they're older to have kids these days, we didn't have the army to put a roof over our heads or feed us when we were younger ... if you'd ever read anything more than a defense force rag you might actually know what the real world is up to.

Well stay unemployed and make ya kids proud.

Read a defence force rag, Grin

. I was in it for 10 years and Ive been out 25 years. So the 'real world' isn't that hard for people like me, even though you find it impossible.

But people like you and bobby always have an excuse; you are beyond help and that is why we have cradle to grave welfare.

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John Smith Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 75119 Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #29 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:58pm BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:42pm: Well stay unemployed and make ya kids proud. You have no friggen idea do you ... you like simple solutions because you are a simpleton down at heart. Complex issues are simply beyond you.
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