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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #30 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 5:05pm We need more HR people who are male and over 50. (and have a clue) At the moment the average HR person is female and 27 (without a clue)
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Reply #31 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 5:39pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:40am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:17am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:47am:

BTW did you move to the work or sit on your @rse demanding the work come to you, because one of those ways is not conducive to finding work quickly.

not always an option when you have dependent kids or a wife with her own career

Then there they will stay, but do not complain about your situation if you are not willing to do something about it. I do and I work with a lot of people who also make the effort and that's what makes us employable in our 50s and 60s.

And we are talking about people in their 50s here, not a lot of those with kids in school, and if they have 30+ year old dependents at home, well more fool them.

Everyone can come up with an excuse for not doing something, socialist ideology is taught in every school in the country, but at some point we have to discard the poor bugger me mentality and get on with it.

Often moving will only mean that you are unemployed somewhere else.

I can not imagine what you do that would mean you need to move away from high employment markets like Sydney to find a regional job in a low employment market when in your 50's or 60's ?

Sorry but seems to have a problem with Joe's sniff test.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6490 Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #32 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 5:55pm DNA I moved 3700Km to take up a new job. Other people moved similar distances, then did not pass their 6 month probation and ended up having to leave again,, break rentals , pay out leases, move furniture etc. yes moving is risky.
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Reply #33 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:02pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 4:42pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 3:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 12:24pm:

As in what DID I do, I was fly in fly out for a whole year until we could get sh1t sorted. I do what I have to do. And it was Townsville / Darwin, before that Townsville / Bowen Basin and before that Townsville / PNG, I don't make excuses.

fly in fly out might work short term when the salary is enough to cover the cost of travel, but long term it's unsustainable ... not when you add the rent in one city plus the mortgage in another, most jobs however don't even pay the average wage, let alone enough to cover the extras .. as for your 'a year to sort it out bullsh1t, I'm sure you think that sounds like a solution but in the real world it's not, probably because you don't want to admit that in most cases it's either you give up your career, or the wife gives up hers ... as for school aged children on their fifties ... I'm 46 and my oldest is 7 yrs old, by the time I'm 55 my oldest he will be 16 .... it might have worked out fine for you having kids when you were 20, but guess what nimbscull, not every one did. People are waiting until they're older to have kids these days, we didn't have the army to put a roof over our heads or feed us when we were younger ... if you'd ever read anything more than a defense force rag you might actually know what the real world is up to.

Well stay unemployed and make ya kids proud.

Read a defence force rag, Grin

. I was in it for 10 years and Ive been out 25 years. So the 'real world' isn't that hard for people like me, even though you find it impossible.

But people like you and bobby always have an excuse; you are beyond help and that is why we have cradle to grave welfare.

Gimme a break - I've never had even one penny of welfare.

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Reply #34 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:04pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:42am:

And there you waited for 8 months - unemployed; this was your choice, no-one else's

Do not blame others for your choices.

It was too risky to up & move for an unknown job -

it's like chasing a rainbow.

You are forgiven for presumptions

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No it isn't.

Do not blame others for your decisions.

I always blame others - just like George Carlin:

I know you do, that is why you are where you are in life, always blaming someone else.

Try taking some responsibility for yourself every now and again and see how that turns out. You won't be crying about some dole you did not get or whatever bleat of the week you got going on

You will just realise it isn't them it is you, you are responsible for you, it is called being an adult.

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for loafers like you.
When did you last do a days work?

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Reply #35 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:35pm

miketrees wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

DNA I moved 3700Km to take up a new job.

Other people moved similar distances, then did not pass their 6 month probation and ended up having to leave again,, break rentals , pay out leases, move furniture etc.

yes moving is risky.

moving is an options for some, and if it makes the difference between unemployed or not, and you're in a position to move, then you should move ... but it's not an option for everyone. There are often other factors at play and bigol is ignoring them.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #36 - Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 10:30pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:35pm:

miketrees wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 5:55pm:

DNA I moved 3700Km to take up a new job.

Other people moved similar distances, then did not pass their 6 month probation and ended up having to leave again,, break rentals , pay out leases, move furniture etc.

yes moving is risky.

moving is an options for some, and if it makes the difference between unemployed or not, and you're in a position to move, then you should move ... but it's not an option for everyone. There are often other factors at play and bigol is ignoring them.

Realistically moving to find employment may be viable for about 2% of the unemployed, for most it would just be looking at the imaginary greener grass in someone else's paddock. For the vast majority moving away from your known contacts will only make it more difficult. You will find that you are not only just as old and facing just as much discrimination but that you are the stranger looking to take some local guys job.

Relocating is that small a part of the equation it is hardly worth even considering for the vast majority of people.

More elderly people would be the worst demographic to think there would be advantage in relocating.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 85239 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Too Young To Retire - Too Old To Get A Job Reply #37 - Sep 4^th, 2016 at 1:52pm Why not just take up the swag and head off along the Bunyip Trail, pick up meals for work and whatever jobs you can along the way? That's the way it has to be in a market that is incapable of providing meaningful work for a couple of million people out of a workforce of 12 million....
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Reply #38 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 2:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 7:04pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 2:11pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 1:17pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 8:42am:

And there you waited for 8 months - unemployed; this was your choice, no-one else's

Do not blame others for your choices.

It was too risky to up & move for an unknown job -

it's like chasing a rainbow.

You are forgiven for presumptions

namaste

No it isn't.

Do not blame others for your decisions.

I always blame others - just like George Carlin:

I know you do, that is why you are where you are in life, always blaming someone else.

Try taking some responsibility for yourself every now and again and see how that turns out. You won't be crying about some dole you did not get or whatever bleat of the week you got going on

You will just realise it isn't them it is you, you are responsible for you, it is called being an adult.

BigOl,
Gimme another break - I work my guts out to pay taxes
for loafers like you.
When did you last do a days work?

Well except for that 8 months you did nothing of course. Grin

That pisling amount of tax you pay most certainly does not come to me. And do not worry about having to support me, Im and adult and I support myself and my family.

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Reply #39 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 5:53pm

miketrees wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2016 at 5:05pm:

We need more HR people who are male and over 50.
(and have a clue)

At the moment the average HR person is female and 27
(without a clue)

mike there is very little training out there these days... people get promoted to a job..."Team Leader" is a good one.... and left to be a Team Leader of their own making.. no human skills whatever....

they should have at least knowledge of every job that they lead a Team over..but that is rarely the case...... Roll Eyes

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starting from the bottom no longer exists....therefore apart from their own little patch they have no idea what else is involved in the running of the place they work in...and from what I have seen no intentions or desire to find out.

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Reply #40 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 6:00pm

another ten years full time employment will be a thing of the past, who ever still has it well it will be like wining tattslotto.

This will be the way the oligarchy annihilates the middle class.

Most people will not work the year round and will always be cash strapped.

Buying a house that will be a wet dream.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Reply #41 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 6:25pm

Ajax wrote on Sep 5^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

another ten years full time employment will be a thing of the past, who ever still has it well it will be like wining tattslotto.

This will be the way the oligarchy annihilates the middle class.

Most people will not work the year round and will always be cash strapped.

Buying a house that will be a wet dream.

Someone who can't afford to get a Mortgage (to buy a house) is not middle class.

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Reply #42 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 6:40pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 5^th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Ajax wrote on Sep 5^th, 2016 at 6:00pm:

another ten years full time employment will be a thing of the past, who ever still has it well it will be like wining tattslotto.

This will be the way the oligarchy annihilates the middle class.

Most people will not work the year round and will always be cash strapped.

Buying a house that will be a wet dream.

Someone who can't afford to get a Mortgage (to buy a house) is not middle class.

Exactly, with no steady job there will be no middle class.

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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
2. "One hour of freedom is worth more than 40 years of slavery & prison" Regas Feraeos

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Reply #43 - Sep 5^th, 2016 at 7:01pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

Well except for that 8 months you did nothing of course. Grin

That pisling amount of tax you pay most certainly does not come to me. And do not worry about having to support me, Im and adult and I support myself and my family.

8 months out of 36 years supporting bums like you.

You aren't working - you're getting an air force pension.

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