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Question: Based on what you know today....Who do you think will win?
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Clinton (D)    
  2 (18.2%)
Trump (R)    
  7 (63.6%)
I'm Brain-dead & have No Opinion    
  2 (18.2%)




Total votes: 11
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57 Days to Go....It's Starting to Look Like a Race
Sep 11th, 2016 at 10:40am
 
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Why Trump vs. Clinton is suddenly a Real Race



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Maybe Hillary Clinton isn’t going to be elected president after all. That’s a thought evoking glee in some, nausea in others, terror in some and relief at the removal of an increasingly tedious figure from public view in still more.

The thought is prompted by the CNN/ORC poll showing Clinton trailing Donald Trump in four-candidate pairings by a 45 to 43 percent margin. Clinton’s lead in the RealClearPolitics.com average of recent polls is down from 7.6 percent on Aug. 9 to 2.8 percent today. The FiveThirtyEight Web site has Trump’s chances of winning up to 30 percent.

The CNN/ORC poll has been criticized for having more self-identified Republicans than Democrats. Since random sample polling was invented in 1935, there hasn’t been a presidential election in which self-identified Republicans outnumbered self-identified Democrats. The closest was in 2004, when the exit poll showed both parties with 37 percent.

But there may be something to learn from CNN/ORC’s decision to whittle their sample down to likely voters. The Clinton campaign’s goal has been to replicate Barack Obama’s 51 percent coalition in 2012. Assembling that coalition relied on spurring turnout among black, Hispanic and young voters.

There are plenty of signs Clinton is poorly positioned to do that. Black turnout and Democratic percentage is likely to be down, at least slightly, from when the first black president was seeking reelection.

Polls have shown Hispanics less interested and motivated by this campaign than just about any other demographic group.

Young voters, while repelled by Trump, are not attracted by Clinton. She ran way behind Bernie Sanders among young women as well as young men in primaries and caucuses. Four-candidate polls typically show Clinton running far behind the 60 percent Obama won among under-30s in 2012, with as many as 20 percent preferring Libertarian Gary Johnson or Green candidate Jill Stein.

So turnout could tilt more Republican this time. And these polls mostly don’t measure the impact of the recently released notes from Clinton’s FBI interviews that took place over the weekend before July 4. They were released late Friday afternoon before the Labor Day weekend, and only two current national polls included some interviews conducted afterward.

So most respondents had no time to digest the juicy bits, such as the BleachBit destruction of thousands of e-mails after they were subpoenaed by the House committee on Benghazi.

When asked about the “C” notations on documents, Clinton said that perhaps they had something to do with alphabetical order, even though there were no documents labeled “A,” “B” or “D.” The candidate touted as the most qualified ever professed deep ignorance about government classification practices.

According to polls, more than 60 percent of Americans believe Clinton is not honest or trustworthy. The FBI interview notes provide further convincing evidence that she’s a liar and a cheat. The kid gloves treatment she got from the FBI — no recordings, allowing aide and co-conspirator Cheryl Mills in the interview — confirm the impression that the fix was in.

None of this is helpful to Clinton’s candidacy. It helps explain why she didn’t subject herself to a standard press conference for 278 days, and why the polls are suddenly tightening.

Another reason is that Trump finally found his bearings. When Clinton was fund-raising in Hollywood, the Hamptons and Martha’s Vineyard, Trump visited flood-stricken Louisiana and met with President Enrique Peńa Nieto in Mexico City, where he was treated as and acted like a serious national leader.

That night in Phoenix, he dialed back on unrealistic immigration promises (of deporting all 11 million illegals) and advanced a surprisingly plausible reform package.

In a world where FedEx and UPS can track packages and Visa and MasterCard can process purchases, why should it be impossible for the government to track visa holders and verify job applicants’ legal status? And why shouldn’t we revise immigration law to encourage high-skill and discourage low-skill immigration?

Of course, Trump has proved himself capable of self-harm, and many voters will likely continue to find him unacceptable. But suddenly it’s looking like a real contest.



Who's on the move up & who's on the move down...........  Huh

What do you think........and most importantly......WHY???
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Reply #1 - Sep 11th, 2016 at 10:56am
 
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This is for you.....I'll withhold my views/opinions for the time being.
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JFYI.......The United States is not a Democracy per se, it's a Constitutional Republic based on the Rule of Law as opposed to Consensus. (It's a Fact, not my View or Opinion)


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Since electoral votes are generally allocated on an "all or none" basis by state, the election of a U.S President is about winning the popular vote in enough states to achieve 270 electoral votes, a majority of the 538 that are available. It is not about getting the most overall popular votes, as we saw in the 2000 election, when the electoral vote winner (Bush) and the popular vote winner (Gore) were different.
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Re: 57 Days to Go....It's Starting to Look Like a Race
Reply #2 - Sep 12th, 2016 at 8:06am
 
If she stumbles Trump will stop to pick her up and help her to the line.
That's the kind of guy he is.

Alternatively he'll keep running, laughing all the way.
Maybe I got him wrong.
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Reply #3 - Sep 12th, 2016 at 8:20am
 
Hillary Clinton has Parkinson's Disease. Explained by a Dr here.

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Re: 57 Days to Go....It's Starting to Look Like a Race
Reply #4 - Sep 12th, 2016 at 2:55pm
 
Just going on the likability of these two candidates, I must be brain dead.
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Reply #6 - Sep 12th, 2016 at 6:12pm
 
My American friends report she has pneumonia ...... took her about an hour at her daughter's apartment to settle herself down and the "antibiotics" boosted her up and, out she came .... waving at the crowds ... suddenly cured of pneumonia.  AMAZING, the USA should bottle that.  Roll Eyes 

Question:  Does Hillary have a Dr Feelgood like JFK and many others did?
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Reply #7 - Sep 12th, 2016 at 6:40pm
 
Donald is looking more and more like a oompa loompa.. orange hair orange face....suits him
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Re: 57 Days to Go....It's Starting to Look Like a Race
Reply #8 - Sep 13th, 2016 at 1:02pm
 
This is more of a race
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And just like the presidential election it too is not real.
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