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Reply #75 - Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm

AiA wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 10:35pm:

As of 7 minutes ago, Nate Silver gave Hillary a 67.7% chance of winning.

Will the information coming out about Trump being a major tax cheat affect the polling this week?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Tax cheat?

He would be a tax cheat only if he broke the law.

From what I read it seems he used the tax laws to his advantage.....as is permitted within the law.....therefore he isn't a tax cheat, if anything it proves he's smart (or his accountants are smart, & he just knows how to hire the best accountants who are fluent in tax law....now that's smart).

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Reply #76 - Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:16pm

Panther wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:

AiA wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 10:35pm:

As of 7 minutes ago, Nate Silver gave Hillary a 67.7% chance of winning.

Will the information coming out about Trump being a major tax cheat affect the polling this week?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Tax cheat?

He would be a tax cheat only if he broke the law.

From what I read it seems he used the tax laws to his advantage.....as is permitted within the law.....therefore he isn't a tax cheat, if anything it proves he's smart (or his accountants are smart, & he just knows how to hire the best accountants who are fluent in tax law....now that's smart).

I suspect Trump not paying taxes for 20 years will influence the polls in Hillary's favor whether hairs are split or not ...

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Who Will Win the Presidency? Reply #77 - Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:18pm It is rumoured that one of Trump's ex-wives, Marla Maples, released his 1995 tax return Another rumor is that Trump released them himself so he could spin the story.
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Who Will Win the Presidency? Reply #78 - Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:09am Yep, polls are reacting to Trump not paying his taxes: Hillary Clinton now has a 71.8% chance of winning according to genius statistician Nate Silver. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #79 - Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:15am

AiA wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:09am:

Yep, polls are reacting to Trump not paying his taxes:

Hillary Clinton now has a 71.8% chance of winning according to genius statistician Nate Silver.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

100%, actually.

Hillary will win ... comfortably.

Trump - the alleged child rapist - will fade into obscurity.

His fifteen minutes is almost up.

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Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #80 - Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:30am

AiA wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:16pm:

Panther wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:

AiA wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 10:35pm:

As of 7 minutes ago, Nate Silver gave Hillary a 67.7% chance of winning.

Will the information coming out about Trump being a major tax cheat affect the polling this week?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Tax cheat?

He would be a tax cheat only if he broke the law.

From what I read it seems he used the tax laws to his advantage.....as is permitted within the law.....therefore he isn't a tax cheat, if anything it proves he's smart (or his accountants are smart, & he just knows how to hire the best accountants who are fluent in tax law....now that's smart).

I suspect Trump not paying taxes for 20 years will influence the polls in Hillary's favor whether hairs are split or not ...

That's where you underestimate the American public......they know tax laws very well.....not intimately, as if they could use them to the degree that Trump does, but they know of their existence, & the need for them to exist in their economy.

A sizable portion of Americans pay virtually no Federal Taxes....or very little Tax.....simply because of their long lists of personal exemptions, & deductions provided to every American in the tax codes.

Take Bankruptcy laws for instance.

The general public has used those laws quite regularly over the last 50 years, so they are acutely aware of the benefits of those laws. And as far as write-offs, again, the general public has also been using them to their advantage for decades as well, & enjoy their ability to lessen their tax burdens legally.

The American people also know if that they can legally stave off the debt collectors for 10 years, the statute of limitations runs out on debt, & for all it's worth they become debt free, & their credit ratings usually self-cleanse too. Not like here where personal debt never subsides, & will hound you way past the grave.

The only people that will cry foul are those that have been stirred up to hate anyone with more than they have.....it's called class envy.....a tool that the demonrats have relied upon for decades. They use Hate & Envy like no other, & have no equal.

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Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #81 - Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:41am

Panther wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:30am:

AiA wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:16pm:

Panther wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:

AiA wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2016 at 10:35pm:

As of 7 minutes ago, Nate Silver gave Hillary a 67.7% chance of winning.

Will the information coming out about Trump being a major tax cheat affect the polling this week?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Tax cheat?

He would be a tax cheat only if he broke the law.

From what I read it seems he used the tax laws to his advantage.....as is permitted within the law.....therefore he isn't a tax cheat, if anything it proves he's smart (or his accountants are smart, & he just knows how to hire the best accountants who are fluent in tax law....now that's smart).

I suspect Trump not paying taxes for 20 years will influence the polls in Hillary's favor whether hairs are split or not ...

That's where you underestimate the American public......they know tax laws very well.....not intimately, as if they could use them as Trump does, but they know of their existence, & the need for them to exist in their economy.

Take Bankruptcy laws for instance.

The general public has used those laws quite regularly over the last 50 years, so they are acutely aware of the benefits of those laws. And as far as write-offs, again, the general public has also been using them to their advantage for decades as well, & enjoy their ability to lessen their tax burdens legally.

The American people also know if that they can legally stave off the debt collectors for 10 years, the statute of limitations runs out on debt, & for all it's worth they become debt free, & their credit ratings usually self-cleanse too. Not like here where personal debt never subsides, & will hound you way past the grave.

The only people that will cry foul are those that have been stirred up to hate anyone with more than they have.....it's called class envy.....a tool that the demonrats have relied upon for decades. They use Hate & Envy like no other, & have no equal.

Look up a couple of posts and see how Trump not paying his taxes has given Clinton quite a large bump in the polls: 71.8% chance of winning. I reckon a man barely getting by might feel a bit of resentment towards a man with everything not paying any taxes ...

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Re: Who Will Win the Presidency?
Reply #82 - Oct 4^th, 2016 at 11:44am

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That's where you underestimate the American public......they know tax laws very well.....not intimately, as if they could use them to the degree that Trump does, but they know of their existence, & the need for them to exist in their economy.

A sizable portion of Americans pay virtually no Federal Taxes....or very little Tax.....simply because of their long lists of personal exemptions, & deductions provided to every American in the tax codes.

Take Bankruptcy laws for instance.

The general public has used those laws quite regularly over the last 50 years, so they are acutely aware of the benefits of those laws. And as far as write-offs, again, the general public has also been using them to their advantage for decades as well, & enjoy their ability to lessen their tax burdens legally.

The American people also know if that they can legally stave off the debt collectors for 10 years, the statute of limitations runs out on debt, & for all it's worth they become debt free, & their credit ratings usually self-cleanse too. Not like here where personal debt never subsides, & will hound you way past the grave.

The only people that will cry foul are those that have been stirred up to hate anyone with more than they have.....it's called class envy.....a tool that the demonrats have relied upon for decades. They use Hate & Envy like no other, & have no equal.

AiA wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

Look up a couple of posts and see how Trump not paying his taxes has given Clinton quite a large bump in the polls: 71.8% chance of winning. I reckon a man barely getting by might feel a bit of resentment towards a man with everything not paying any taxes ...

Oh, & are we're to suppose that the Clinton's are the Poster Children for how the uber-rich should pay their taxes?

Most major polls (between 29 Sept & 2 Oct) show the leads are basically all within the "margin of error"......pretty much too close to call by
any stretch.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Who Will Win the Presidency? Reply #83 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 12:13am Hillary is really pulling ahead, as of 45 minutes ago she has a 75% chance of winning. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Who Will Win the Presidency? Reply #85 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:18am Agnes wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:07am: Looking a lot better for Hilary right now. Yes, as of 12 minutes ago Hillary has a 75.4% chance of winning. Of course, that figure will change. Who knows what will happen in these next weeks? http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
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Reply #86 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:44am

What a smacking joke that alleged "debate" was. Two overly white Casper ghost candidates who offer nothing but more war.

When they couldn't agree on more war, austerity and a continued capitals assault on the poor all they had left was to interrupt, contradict, insult, and belittle each other. Incessantly, like two little children throwing temper tantrums on who can swing their dick in the wind Better than the other guy.

Looks like who gets in to rape what's left of the world from the Oval Office will definitely be intensifying the scarier-than-hell crap currently going on in Syria between US-backed Islamic rebels (a.k.a. the real terrorists) on the one book end and the Russian-backed government of President Bashar al-Assad on the other. Oh boy!

Nothing on education/student debt, environmental issues, minimum wage. Just two blathering idiots with massive hard ons for war.

Disgusting.

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Reply #87 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 1:01pm

Marla wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:44am:

What a smacking joke that alleged "debate" was. Two overly white Casper ghost candidates who offer nothing but more war.

When they couldn't agree on more war, austerity and a continued capitals assault on the poor all they had left was to interrupt, contradict, insult, and belittle each other. Incessantly, like two little children throwing temper tantrums on who can swing their dick in the wind Better than the other guy.

Looks like who gets in to rape what's left of the world from the Oval Office will definitely be intensifying the scarier-than-hell crap currently going on in Syria between US-backed Islamic rebels (a.k.a. the real terrorists) on the one book end and the Russian-backed government of President Bashar al-Assad on the other. Oh boy!

Nothing on education/student debt, environmental issues, minimum wage. Just two blathering idiots with massive hard ons for war.

Disgusting.

So, Marlaushka, regardless on how you vote (if you do, but good chance you won't).....because it's abundantly obvious it won't be one of those two......but, that said, it will be one of those two taking over for 4 year when Obama leaves his ghetto, which one do you 'feel' will be the one who will be the new "Head Whitey In Charge"?

Geez, that doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely as HNIC does....

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Reply #88 - Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:19pm

AiA wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:18am:

Agnes wrote on Oct 6^th, 2016 at 2:07am:

Looking a lot better for Hilary right now.

Yes, as of 12 minutes ago Hillary has a 75.4% chance of winning. Of course, that figure will change. Who knows what will happen in these next weeks?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

tell me AiA do Americans only get two people to vote for in your elections....

like its..

1/Hillary

2/Donald..

what if you want to vote but not for either???..

a protest vote for instance.. I find it hard to believe ..

Americans cant do better than this pair to be honest....and some very hardened voters must feel the same way..

so how do they send a message?...

not voting doesnt seem to matter over there.

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