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Re: Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes
Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 2:28pm
 
rabbitoh08 wrote on Sep 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 18th, 2016 at 12:24pm:
Darwin and his foolish and non factual theory is debunked ..

Darwin never said that man evolved from (modern) apes.  Man and other apes all evolved from a common ancestor.


Yes I think he is doing an injustice to Darwin and you're right, a common ancestor was his claim. That was however enough to bring out the god squad, as it appears to be still capable of doing.

Darwin did not have the benefit of the discoveries of the 20th century by such as Dr Leakey which have expanded the range of ancestors.
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Reply #16 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 9:36pm
 
lets explore the global myth taught to your children in your schools shall we ...

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/human_evolution.aspx

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Human Evolution


Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors starting nearly five million years ago. The modern scientific study of human evolution is called paleoanthropology. A subfield of anthropology, this discipline searches for the roots of human physical traits, culture, and behavior. It attempts to answer questions: What makes us human? When and why did we begin to walk upright? How did our brains, language, art, music, and religion develop? By approaching these questions from a variety of directions, using information learned from other disciplines such as molecular biology, paleontology, archaeology, sociology, and biology, we continue to increase knowledge of our evolutionary origins.

Most cultures throughout human history have myths, stories, and ideas about how life and culture came into existence. Although the current theory of evolution, based on the ideas of Charles Darwin, is accepted by a majority of scientists in our time, it is important to remember that many earlier ideas were recognized as well.

Darwin's books, On the Origins of the Species by Natural Selection (1859) and The Descent of Man (1872), expressed his theory of evolution and revolutionized the study of life and human origins.

Darwin presented evidence showing that natural species including humans have changed, or evolved, over long spans of time. He also argued that radically new forms of life develop from existing species. He noted that all organisms compete with one another for food, space, mates, and other things needed for survival and reproduction. The most successful individuals in this competition have the greatest chance of reproducing and passing these characteristics on to offspring. Over hundreds of thousands of generations, one form of life can evolve into one or more other forms. Darwin called this process natural selection.

Modern science now understands that the mechanism for evolutionary change resides in genes , the basic building block of heredity . Genes determine how the body, and often the behavior, of an organism will develop over the course of its life. Certain information in genes can change, and over time this genetic change can actually alter a species' overall way of life.

In recent decades, biological and social scientists have made impressive strides in understanding our complex physical and cultural origins. Their research has revealed gradual alterations in our genetic structure, as well as shifts in culture and behavior, that have transformed humankind into the planet-dominant species.

Scientists estimate that our human ancestors began to diverge from the African primates between eight million and five million years ago. This figure is the result of studying the genetic makeup of humans and apes, and then calculating approximately how long it took for those differences to develop. Using similar methods of comparing genetic variation among human populations around the world, it is thought that all people living today share a common genetic ancestor.

Early Life in Africa


The human story begins in one of the most geologically fascinating areas on Earth, the Great Rift Valley of Africa. It is an enormous split torn into Earth's crust that runs from the forests in Tanzania to the deserts of Ethiopia. In some places the rift is thousands of feet deep and exposes the last fifteen million years of the earth's history. Here, fossil remains of our earliest ancestors can be found. Humankind appears to have first evolved in Africa, and the fossils of early humans, or hominids, who lived between five million and two million years ago, come entirely from Africa.

Starting with the modern human skull, it is possible to trace our ancestry back millions of years. As we travel back in time, our ancestors look less and less like us and begin to resemble our closest relatives, the African apes. Because our physical and genetic characteristics are similar, evolutionary theory offers evidence that ancestral humans had a very close relationship to a group of primates, the apes. Humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and the large apes of Africa share a common ancestor that lived between eight million and five million years ago.

Humans, or hominids, belong to the scientific order named Primates, a group of more than 230 species of animals that includes the monkeys, lemurs, and apes. Modern humans have a number of physical characteristics resembling our ape ancestry. The social systems of humans also share similarities with the African apes and other primates, such as baboons, chimpanzees, and rhesus monkeys. Chimps live, groom, feed, and hunt together and form strong family bonds. Early humankind probably had a similar lifestyle.

Scientists now know that nearly 98 percent of the genes in humans and chimpanzees are identical, making chimps the closest living biological relative of humans. However, there are fundamental differences between modern humans and their primate relatives.
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Reply #17 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 11:08pm
 
Yes Light- you are an excellent cut and paster.

But do you understand, Darwin never said that man evolved from (modern) apes.  Man and other apes all evolved from a common ancestor.

So your OP is sort of crap.
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Reply #18 - Sep 18th, 2016 at 11:31pm
 
rabbitoh08 wrote on Sep 18th, 2016 at 11:08pm:
Yes Light- you are an excellent cut and paster.

But do you understand, Darwin never said that man evolved from (modern) apes.  Man and other apes all evolved from a common ancestor.

So your OP is sort of crap.


many blessings rabbitoh08 ,

one such as I am will never stand under/understand  your illusionary mesmerisms

and how you distinctly include " modern " into your semantic proposals ..

your contribution is observed as I actually overstand your supposition with ease and grace

as we continue without your semantic retardationalisms,

here is some more stupidity and mainstream teachings ,

http://humanorigins.si.edu/education/introduction-human-evolution

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Human evolution


Human evolution is the lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. Scientific evidence shows that the physical and behavioral traits shared by all people originated from apelike ancestors and evolved over a period of approximately six million years.

One of the earliest defining human traits, bipedalism -- the ability to walk on two legs -- evolved over 4 million years ago. Other important human characteristics -- such as a large and complex brain, the ability to make and use tools, and the capacity for language -- developed more recently. Many advanced traits -- including complex symbolic expression, art, and elaborate cultural diversity -- emerged mainly during the past 100,000 years.

Humans are primates. Physical and genetic similarities show that the modern human species, Homo sapiens, has a very close relationship to another group of primate species, the apes. Humans and the great apes (large apes) of Africa -- chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called “pygmy chimpanzees”) and gorillas -- share a common ancestor that lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. Humans first evolved in Africa, and much of human evolution occurred on that continent. The fossils of early humans who lived between 6 and 2 million years ago come entirely from Africa.

Most scientists currently recognize some 15 to 20 different species of early humans. Scientists do not all agree, however, about how these species are related or which ones simply died out. Many early human species -- certainly the majority of them – left no living descendants. Scientists also debate over how to identify and classify particular species of early humans, and about what factors influenced the evolution and extinction of each species.

Early humans first migrated out of Africa into Asia probably between 2 million and 1.8 million years ago. They entered Europe somewhat later, between 1.5 million and 1 million years. Species of modern humans populated many parts of the world much later. For instance, people first came to Australia probably within the past 60,000 years and to the Americas within the past 30,000 years or so. The beginnings of agriculture and the rise of the first civilizations occurred within the past 12,000 years.

Paleoanthropology
Paleoanthropology is the scientific study of human evolution. Paleoanthropology is a subfield of anthropology, the study of human culture, society, and biology. The field involves an understanding of the similarities and differences between humans and other species in their genes, body form, physiology, and behavior. Paleoanthropologists search for the roots of human physical traits and behavior. They seek to discover how evolution has shaped the potentials, tendencies, and limitations of all people. For many people, paleoanthropology is an exciting scientific field because it investigates the origin, over millions of years, of the universal and defining traits of our species. However, some people find the concept of human evolution troubling because it can seem not to fit with religious and other traditional beliefs about how people, other living things, and the world came to be. Nevertheless, many people have come to reconcile their beliefs with the scientific evidence.

Early human fossils and archeological remains offer the most important clues about this ancient past. These remains include bones, tools and any other evidence (such as footprints, evidence of hearths, or butchery marks on animal bones) left by earlier people. Usually, the remains were buried and preserved naturally. They are then found either on the surface (exposed by rain, rivers, and wind erosion) or by digging in the ground. By studying fossilized bones, scientists learn about the physical appearance of earlier humans and how it changed. Bone size, shape, and markings left by muscles tell us how those predecessors moved around, held tools, and how the size of their brains changed over a long time. Archeological evidence refers to the things earlier people made and the places where scientists find them. By studying this type of evidence, archeologists can understand how early humans made and used tools and lived in their environments.

The process of evolution
The process of evolution involves a series of natural changes that cause species (populations of different organisms) to arise, adapt to the environment, and become extinct. All species or organisms have originated through the process of biological evolution.
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Reply #19 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 6:49am
 
we continue with facts and logic ..

http://www.icr.org/article/9189

Chinese Femur Refutes Human Evolution


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by Brian Thomas, M.S. *
Evidence for Creation


Textbooks around the world contain the well-known illustration of walking apes transitioning into a modern human. I recently heard a college student, raised in a Christian home, say these pictures convinced her of evolution. She probably represents countless others swayed by this simplistic icon. But those willing to question the concept that man descended from apes can welcome the recent study of a discovery from China. It adds to the list of important finds that refute human evolution and its illustrations.

Researchers from Australia and China analyzed a portion of a human femur (thigh bone) found in Red Deer Cave in Yunnan Province, China, during a 1989 excavation.1 The researchers noted the bone looks like Homo habilis and Homo erectus femurs found in Africa.2 Those presumed early versions of an evolving mankind supposedly went extinct over 1.5 million years ago, but evolutionary methods dated the Chinese cave finds to only about 14,000 years ago!

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What does this mean?

In terms of the ape-to-man icon that creation researcher Marvin Lubenow called “the fake parade,”3 it means that drawings of the club-wielding “early” men should be redrawn to show them walking beside modern-looking men, not behind them. In terms of biblical history, this find supports what creation-based scientists have been saying for many years about fossils of extinct human varieties: They, along with all modern humans, descended from Noah’s sons.4

Other amazing discoveries confirm this conclusion. For example, a cache of wildly different-looking human fossils pulled from a Georgian cave and reported in 2013 also had human varieties designated H. erectus and H. habilis deposited during the same timeframe.5

And consider what Lubenow said about human fossils from a famous cave in Spain.

Further, thanks to the extreme variation seen in the Sima de los Huesos [cave] fossil collection, the distinctions made by evolutionists between Homo erectus, early Homo sapiens, Neandertal, and anatomically modern Homo sapiens now fade into insignificance. It is a remarkable affirmation of…Acts 17:26, “From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth.”6

The fake parade shows early apes becoming stooped caveman creatures, and finally modern man. Any of these three cave finds dismantles at least part of the fake parade by jumbling its “early man” time sequence. Other fossil sites show a time overlap between modern looking humans and extinct apes.3 If one believed apes evolved from ancient man, one could just as easily draw another fake parade of humans on the left stepping down to apes on the right without violating the fossil record.

The supposedly archaic human femur found in the cave deposit from China and finds from other caves around the world all clash with the story of human evolution and confirm that humans have always been humans.

References

Smith, D. ‘Red Deer Cave’ bone points to mysterious species of pre-modern human. University of New South Wales news release. Posted on newsroom.unsw.edu.au December 18, 2015, accessed January 5, 2016.
Curnoe, D. et al. 2015. A Hominin Femur with Archaic Affinities from the Late Pleistocene of Southwest China. PLoS ONE. 10 (12): e0143332.
Lubenow, M. 2004. Bones of Contention. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 167.
For example, see Thomas, B. Human Remains in Spain: Neandertal or Not? Creation Science Update. Posted on icr.org July 2, 2014, accessed December 29, 2015.
Thomas, B. and F. Sherwin. Human-like Fossil Menagerie Stuns Scientists. Creation Science Update. Posted on icr.org November 8, 2013, accessed December 29, 2015.
Lubenow, Bones of Contention, 201.
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Reply #21 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:00am
 
many blessings ,

here is some more idiocy from Encyclopaedia Britannica

people actually pay top dollar to be taught to regurgitate this stupidity and retarded programming

mindless dupes further quote this lunacy and think they are intelligent by doing so ... as it is the observed ' science ' taught by freemasonic despots ..

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https://www.britannica.com/science/human-evolution

Human evolution


WRITTEN BY:

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Russell Howard Tuttle


( freemasonic puppet handler )

Human evolution, the process by which human beings developed on Earth from now-extinct primates. Viewed zoologically, we humans are Homo sapiens, a culture-bearing, upright-walking species that lives on the ground and very likely first evolved in Africa about 200,000 years ago. We are now the only living members of what many zoologists refer to as the human tribe, Hominini, but there is abundant fossil evidence to indicate that we were preceded for millions of years by other hominins, such as Australopithecus, and that our species also lived for a time contemporaneously with at least one other member of our genus, Homo neanderthalensis (the Neanderthals). In addition, we and our predecessors have always shared the Earth with other apelike primates, from the modern-day gorilla to the long-extinct Dryopithecus. That we and the extinct hominins are somehow related and that we and the apes, both living and extinct, are also somehow related is accepted by anthropologists and biologists everywhere. Yet the exact nature of our evolutionary relationships has been the subject of debate and investigation since the great British naturalist Charles Darwin published his monumental books On the Origin of Species (1859) and The Descent of Man (1871). Darwin never claimed, as some of his Victorian contemporaries insisted he had, that “man was descended from the apes,” and modern scientists would view such a statement as a useless simplification—just as they would dismiss any popular notions that a certain extinct species is the “missing link” between man and the apes. There is theoretically, however, a common ancestor that existed millions of years ago. This ancestral species does not constitute a “missing link” along a lineage but rather a node for divergence into separate lineages. This ancient primate has not been identified and may never be known with certainty, because fossil relationships are unclear even within the human lineage, which is more recent. In fact, the human “family tree” may be better described as a “family bush,” within which it is impossible to connect a full chronological series of species, leading to Homo sapiens, that experts can agree upon.

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Reply #22 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:09am
 
Humans did Not Descend from Apes but

we had a common ancestor.

That's why our DNA is 99% the same as Chimps.
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Reply #23 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:17am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:09am:
Humans did Not Descend from Apes but

we had a common ancestor.

That's why our DNA is 99% the same as Chimps.


many blessings sir bobby ,

you are wrong on most topics and will be corrected here as well

http://creation.com/greater-than-98-chimp-human-dna-similarity-not-any-more

Greater than 98% Chimp/human DNA similarity? Not any more.

A common evolutionary argument gets reevaluated—by evolutionists themselves.

by David DeWitt

A new report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggests that the common value of >98% similarity of DNA between chimp and humans is incorrect.2 Roy Britten, author of the study, puts the figure at about 95% when insertions and deletions are included. Importantly, there is much more to these studies than people realize.

References
Archidiacono, N., Storlazzi, C.T., Spalluto, C., Ricco, A.S., Marzella, R., Rocchi, M. 1998. ‘Evolution of chromosome Y in primates.’ Chromosoma 107:241–246.
Britten, R.J. 2002. ‘Divergence between samples of chimpanzee and human DNA sequences is 5% counting indels.’ Proceedings National Academy Science 99:13633–13635.
Fujiyama, A., Watanabe, H., Toyoda, A., Taylor, T.D., Itoh, T., Tsai, S.F., Park, H.S., Yaspo, M.L., Lehrach, H., Chen, Z., Fu, G., Saitou, N., Osoegawa, K., de Jong, P.J., Suto, Y., Hattori, M., and Sakaki, Y. 2002. ‘Construction and analysis of a Human-Chimpanzee Comparative Clone Map.’ Science 295:131–134.
Gagneux, P. and Varki, A. 2001. ‘Genetic differences between humans and great apes.’ Mol Phylogenet Evol 18:2–13.
Gibbons, A. 1998. ‘Which of our genes make us human?’ Science 281:1432–1434.
Heyer, E., Zietkeiwicz, E., Rochowski, A., Yotova, V., Puymirat, J., and Labuda D. 2001. ‘Phylogenetic and familial estimates of mitochondrial substitution rates: study of control region mutation in deep-rooting pedigrees.’ Am J Hum Genet 69:1113–1126.
Kakuo, S., Asaoka, K. and Ide, T. 1999. ‘Human is a unique species among primates in terms of telomere length.’ Biochem Biophys Res Commun 263:308–314.
Knight, A., Batzer, M.A., Stoneking, M., Tiwari, H.K., Scheer, W.D., Herrera, R.J., and Deninger, P.L. 1996. ‘DNA sequences of Alu elements indicate a recent replacement of the human autosomal genetic complement.’ Proc. Natl Acad Sci USA 93:4360–4364.
Parsons T.J., Muniec, D.S., Sullivan, K., Woodyatt, N., Alliston-Greiner, R., Wilson, M.R., Berry, D.L., Holland, K.A., Weedn, V.W., Gill, P., and M.M. Holland. 1997. A high observed substitution rate in the human mitochondrial DNA control region. Nat. Genet. 15:363–368.
Sigurgardottir, S., Helgason, A., Gulcher, J.R., Stefansson, K., and Donnelly P. 2000. ‘The mutation rate in the human mtDNA control region.’ Am J Hum Genet 66:1599–1609.

http://creation.com/greater-than-98-chimp-human-dna-similarity-not-any-more

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Re: Hu-man Did Not Descend from Apes
Reply #24 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:20am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:09am:
Humans did Not Descend from Apes but

we had a common ancestor.

That's why our DNA is 99% the same as Chimps.


many blessings sir bobby ,

if you propose to be an authority upon this topic ,

and not simply regurgitating false and retarded teachings from despotic freemasons

please explain the missing chromosomes

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Figure 2: Evolutionary Map of Human Divergence Following Chromosome 2 Fusion.


So, if humans were not a split from the ape lineage in evolutionary theory, there are two other explanations for the appearance of human chromosome 2. The first explanation is that an intelligent designer created humans with 48 chromosomes, but they underwent the fusion sometime following Creation. At first glance, this explanation might appear to be a combination of creation and evolution—but only if “evolution” is defined as microevolution. Let us assume that God created humans with a diploid number of 48 chromosomes, and that they were in all respects the same as humans today except in chromosome number. Later, a fusion occurred between two chromosomes to give humans 46 chromosomes just like ourselves. This would be an example of microevolution. A genetic change occurred, but did not alter the species by creating a new distinct species. Unfortunately, this explanation holds up no better than that of the evolutionist’s common ancestry theory. As described above, the problems of infertility, low survival fitness, and the absence of humans with 48 chromosomes today make this explanation improbable for the appearance of chromosome 2. It could be argued that Noah or his wife (Genesis 6) contained the chromosome 2 fusion and thus repopulated the Earth following the great Flood with this genomic alteration. If Noah or his wife contained a fusion of chromosomes 2A and 2B, then their offspring would have a 50% chance of receiving this chromosome. Then, offspring from their sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth, would have only a 25% chance of receiving the altered chromosome 2. With each successive generation, the probability of maintaining the altered chromosome would reduce by one-half. These genetic frequencies of passage to offspring, coupled with the likelihood of infertility and genetic syndromes, make the Noah hypothesis unlikely as well.

The only remaining explanation for the similarity of human chromosome 2 to chromosomes 2A and 2B in the chimpanzee is that God created mankind with 46 chromosomes including a second chromosome with the visible characteristics that we see today. No evidence or any line of rational thought can explain how a single human underwent a genetic chromosomal fusion and passed that alteration to all of mankind—except that he was created by God at the beginning, along with woman, with that chromosomal makeup.

Atheists have asked why God would purposefully create a human chromosome that “looks” like the fusion of two chromosomes. At this stage of understanding, we do not know. Recall God’s words: “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts” (Isaiah 55:8-9, ESV). Eliphaz rightly stated: “He catches the wise in their own craftiness, and the schemes of the wily are brought to a quick end” (Job 5:13, ESV). We cannot know God’s intentions for creating us as we exist, nor can we know why He created chimpanzees with such close genetic similarities to humans. We can know, however, that despite the close similarities in genetics, anatomy, physiology, and biochemistry between Homo sapiens and Pan troglodytes, man can think and reason far beyond the chimpanzee or any other living organism. (It is doubtful that genetics will ever solely explain that difference.) But, the greatest difference will always be that man alone has an immortal soul which is yet another created gift from God.

We will continue to learn as we delve deeper into our studies of biology and the living world. We may well discover an explanation. But, there will always be questions which cannot be answered, puzzles which cannot be solved. While God has placed some of His creation beyond our ability to discover, He has left other parts of it for us to ponder. What we can know is that the evolutionists’ “argument” regarding chromosome 2 in no way proves that humans evolved from apes.

REFERENCES

Bowers, Evelyn J. (2003), “Chromosomal Speciation,” Science, 301[5634]: 764-5.

Forrest, Barbara and Kenneth R. Miller (2009), “The Evolution of Creationism,” Experimental Biology 2009, [On-line], URL: http://www.eb2009.org/.

Kitzmiller vs. Dover Area School District (2005), Case No. 04cv2688, [On-line], URL: http://www.pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller/kitzmiller_342.pdf.

Weinberg Johannes, et al. (1994), “The Origin of Human Chromosome 2 Analyzed by Comparative Chromo-some Mapping with a DNA Micro-library,” Chromosome Research, 2:405-410.
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Reply #25 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:31am
 
http://janegoodall.ca/get-involved/a-little-laughter-goes-a-long-way-2/

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Chimps Laugh when Tickled: Similarities Between Humans and Other Species
May 16, 2013 · by Guest Contributor · in Endangered Chimpanzees

Written by Guest Contributor, Jesse Hildebrand.

Chimpanzees laugh when tickled.  That’s right – for those stealthy and foolhardy enough to sneak up on a chimp, it is indeed possible to tickle it into submission.  Chimpanzees are of course our closest living relatives, and, having only split off from humankind in the history of life about 6 million years ago they share nearly 99% of our DNA.  There are, of course, many differences between the two species;  we stand on two legs, we have bigger brains, we are relatively hairless and yes, we like hockey.  However, it seems the more we discover about our closest cousins, the more we realize we are alike.
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The first time it was firmly argued that we are cousins came of course with the publication of On the Origin of Species.  Detractors of that theory posed that our brains were different, that we had something that they didn’t – the seat of the soul, perhaps.  Of course, as it turns out, our brains are structurally identical even if ours are larger.  In fact, our whole bodies are the same, same bones, same muscles, and for sticklers the same number of fingers and toes.  As time went on and more research came to light, it became uncanny just how much we shared.  Chimpanzees use tools, they hunt in groups, they share, they play, they empathize and yes, they laugh.  Chimpanzee research did a great deal to show just how much we share with the animal kingdom, or alternatively, just how much they share with us.  In time, more and more animals were found to have these traits.  Rats are empathetic, bats share, bears play and over twenty other species use tools.

One of the best lines on just how close other animals are to us comes from David Attenborough. Then a young presenter doing his first full series, he went to see the mountain gorillas of Rwanda – “There is perhaps more meaning and mutual understanding in exchanging a glance with a gorilla than with any other animal I know.  We are so similar, their sight, their hearing, their sense of smell are so similar to ours that we see the world as they do.”  Whether a gorilla, a chimpanzee, an orangutan or any of the other species that share the world with us, it is worth reflecting on the astounding number of similarities we share rather than the differences that separate us.

There are few things more human than tickling.  The fun, the playfulness, the only time you can yell “STOP!” and not mean it.  And yet, chimpanzees do it too.  Whether sharing nearly 99% of our DNA as they do or not, nothing reinforces our connection to nature better than that to me.
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Bobby. wrote on Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:31am:
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Chimps Laugh when Tickled: Similarities Between Humans and Other Species
May 16, 2013 · by Guest Contributor · in Endangered Chimpanzees

Written by Guest Contributor, Jesse Hildebrand.

Chimpanzees laugh when tickled.  That’s right – for those stealthy and foolhardy enough to sneak up on a chimp, it is indeed possible to tickle it into submission.  Chimpanzees are of course our closest living relatives, and, having only split off from humankind in the history of life about 6 million years ago they share nearly 99% of our DNA.  There are, of course, many differences between the two species;  we stand on two legs, we have bigger brains, we are relatively hairless and yes, we like hockey.  However, it seems the more we discover about our closest cousins, the more we realize we are alike.
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The first time it was firmly argued that we are cousins came of course with the publication of On the Origin of Species.  Detractors of that theory posed that our brains were different, that we had something that they didn’t – the seat of the soul, perhaps.  Of course, as it turns out, our brains are structurally identical even if ours are larger.  In fact, our whole bodies are the same, same bones, same muscles, and for sticklers the same number of fingers and toes.  As time went on and more research came to light, it became uncanny just how much we shared.  Chimpanzees use tools, they hunt in groups, they share, they play, they empathize and yes, they laugh.  Chimpanzee research did a great deal to show just how much we share with the animal kingdom, or alternatively, just how much they share with us.  In time, more and more animals were found to have these traits.  Rats are empathetic, bats share, bears play and over twenty other species use tools.

One of the best lines on just how close other animals are to us comes from David Attenborough. Then a young presenter doing his first full series, he went to see the mountain gorillas of Rwanda – “There is perhaps more meaning and mutual understanding in exchanging a glance with a gorilla than with any other animal I know.  We are so similar, their sight, their hearing, their sense of smell are so similar to ours that we see the world as they do.”  Whether a gorilla, a chimpanzee, an orangutan or any of the other species that share the world with us, it is worth reflecting on the astounding number of similarities we share rather than the differences that separate us.

There are few things more human than tickling.  The fun, the playfulness, the only time you can yell “STOP!” and not mean it.  And yet, chimpanzees do it too.  Whether sharing nearly 99% of our DNA as they do or not, nothing reinforces our connection to nature better than that to me.


many blessings sir bobby ,

it does not suprise one such as I am that you think your link comprises evidence ...

you are way out of your depth here now please provide scientific evidence to refute this established fact

http://creation.com/greater-than-98-chimp-human-dna-similarity-not-any-more

Greater than 98% Chimp/human DNA similarity? Not any more.

A common evolutionary argument gets reevaluated—by evolutionists themselves.

by David DeWitt

A new report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggests that the common value of >98% similarity of DNA between chimp and humans is incorrect.2 Roy Britten, author of the study, puts the figure at about 95% when insertions and deletions are included. Importantly, there is much more to these studies than people realize.

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Britten, R.J. 2002. ‘Divergence between samples of chimpanzee and human DNA sequences is 5% counting indels.’ Proceedings National Academy Science 99:13633–13635.
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many blessings ,

let us conduct a simple test .. if any can answer this question I would be glad to see the product of your intellect ...

question 1 .
What percentage of brain capacity do humans use?
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I tend to trust David Attenborough.

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Reply #29 - Sep 19th, 2016 at 11:09am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 19th, 2016 at 7:43am:
many blessings ,

let us conduct a simple test .. if any can answer this question I would be glad to see the product of your intellect ...

question 1 .
What percentage of brain capacity do humans use?



100%
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