Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 ... 3 4 5 
Send Topic Print
The first presidential debate (Read 3353 times)
mothra
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 35465
Gender: female
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #60 - Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   




So you watched 20 minutes of it and you are sticking your oar in the water?

I missed the first part but the consensus is that that was where Trump did his finest work.

By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Hillary has been almost unanimously been handed the win.  It was a resounding victory.  Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.

She wiped the floor with him.
Back to top
 

If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
IP Logged
 
Richdude
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 8457
NC
Gender: male
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #61 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 5:36am
 
mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   




So you watched 20 minutes of it and you are sticking your oar in the water?

I missed the first part but the consensus is that that was where Trump did his finest work.

By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Hillary has been almost unanimously been handed the win.  It was a resounding victory.  Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.

She wiped the floor with him
.


  Really? I'm wondering if we watched the same debate?
Did Hillary's colostomy bag fail?

I was hoping that Donald would do a citizens arrest. He has the ba**lls to do so.
Back to top
 

The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”
 
IP Logged
 
cods
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 88048
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #62 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 7:46am
 
all I saw of Hillary was her smearing his name going back years...I dont have much time for either of them....but if push comes to shove..... Hillary also has a lot of suss history..

it wasnt very insightful...and the Democrats havent made much of a dent in ISIS in 8 years have they?.........as Donald said... on their watch it has grown massively......

yes cyber warfare..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes how the hell can anyone stop that?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Panther
Gold Member
*****
Offline


My Heart beats True for
the Red White & Blue...

Posts: 11505
Gender: male
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #63 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:16am
 
..




Even Republicans think Clinton won the first debate




Source: 
THE WASHINGTON POST
    Quote:
THE BIG IDEA: The consensus that Donald Trump badly lost the first debate gelled overnight. Liberals predictably panned the GOP nominee’s performance on Long Island, but some of the harshest reviews are coming from conservative thought leaders who had been starting to come around.

-- Instant reaction:



Republican pollster Frank Luntz conducted a focus group of undecided voters in Pennsylvania. Sixteen said Hillary Clinton won. Five picked Trump, per CBS News.

In a Florida focus group organized by CNN, 18 of 20 undecided voters picked Clinton as the winner.

Not one of 29 undecided voters in an Ohio focus group organized by Park Street Strategies thought Trump prevailed, while 11 picked Clinton and the rest said neither. By a two-to-one margin, the group thought Clinton had the better tone and, by a three-to-one margin, they thought she came across as more knowledgeable candidate on the issues.

A CNN/ORC flash poll found that 62 percent said the Democrat won, compared to 27 percent who picked Trump. That’s on par with 2012, when Mitt Romney was seen as the winner of the first debate.

In a separate instant-poll from the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling, 51 percent said Clinton won and 40 percent picked Trump.

Eight in 10 insiders in the key battleground states thought Clinton performed better, including 57 percent of Republicans, according to the Politico Caucus survey.
Trump complains of 'defective mic' after first debate
Play Video1:42

Trump’s surrogates in the spin room were downbeat, and the candidate himself has already begun making excuses: “They gave me a defective mic,” he complained to reporters during a gaggle. “Did you notice that? My mic was defective within the room. I wonder, was that on purpose?” There was no clear problem with his microphone during the debate, Jose DelReal notes.

Trump was supposed to stop by the Nassau County Republican Committee’s watch party on his way home. He skipped it. Clinton, meanwhile, celebrated with hundreds of supporters in Westbury.

And Rudy Giuliani, a top Trump surrogate, even suggested that Trump should skip the next two debates unless he gets concessions. “If I were Donald Trump I wouldn’t participate in another debate unless I was promised that the journalist would act like a journalist and not an incorrect, ignorant fact checker,” he said.......
CONTINUED





Sounds like it went just as expected.

Some hoped for a miracle that things would have been different, but virtually everyone in the know knew an ex-Senator, an ex-Secretary of State, an ex-lawyer, & a Wall Street talk circuit darling would, in a civil debate, would easily out debate Trump from the get-go.


For anyone to predict otherwise they might as well be trippin' on peyote in fantasy land with Jim Morrison....

Now, that said, the second debate is set up.....but, what will Trump do?

...   One prediction would be that he will heave a bucket of month old catgut over SHillary's $600 meticulously coiffed head, then point to her and exclaim as only he can:

"Well there she is.......it's Stinkin' Hillary, yes very foul.........very foul & Stinkin' Hillary.....very foul!"    
 ... 


Barring that, next time I think he will take Hillary down to street level, yes, take her to a typical back street NYC gutter, & bash the lovin' bejisis out of her pants suited ass, in a way that the general consensus would even find a bit charming.  ...

That would be more Presidential........no? ...   ...

Back to top
« Last Edit: Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:31am by Panther »  

"When the People fear government there is Tyranny;
When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!"

'
Live FREE or DIE!
'
 
IP Logged
 
Gordon
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 20619
Gordon
Gender: male
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #64 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:58am
 
mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:17pm:
cods wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 6:03pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 3:13pm:
It wasn't postulation.  It was a statement of fact.

She left him looking like a disingenuous,  narcissistic little boy.




first up I didnt see everything... maybe half... but I thought Trump won to be honest he spoke very very plainly and whilst he mentioned her job in govt.. he didnt slam her about things she had done years ago.... which I was sorry to see she did......

I didnt think bringing up someones past is the right way in a pre President debate...it reminds me you have nothing else to throw at them....she also didnt have any victories to brag about after all it has been 8 years...


my money is on Trump in that round.


I only saw the first 20 minutes and I agree with you.  I had to go out and missed the rest so it could have turned around.

Hillary started her attack by talking about her Draper/Mercer father and her 'humble' beginnings and then went on to attack Trump for borrowing money from his father to start out and talking about his billions.  Bad form and she was obviously just trying to rile him and wind him up.  That is what she prepared for and, up until the time I had to go out, she didn't wind him up as much as she hoped.

The Clintons are worth well over $100 million and a good percentage of that was made from dodgy ME deals using their 'foundations'.   




So you watched 20 minutes of it and you are sticking your oar in the water?

I missed the first part but the consensus is that that was where Trump did his finest work.

By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Hillary has been almost unanimously been handed the win.  It was a resounding victory.  Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.

She wiped the floor with him.


The people who will put Trump in the White House don't care about who won the debate.  They are voting against regressive leftist party politics and that will get him over the line.
Back to top
 

IBI
 
IP Logged
 
stryder
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 4545
Gender: male
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #65 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 12:24pm
 
stryder wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
Hillary clinton has been a lawyer before being in politics, and has been a politician for 30 years, she would know the ins and outs of debating more so than trump.

Trump has never been a politician until last year, and has had mixed results in the GOP primary debates.

I just feel that hillary has an edge over trunp.

I can be wrong on this though. Lol



Well, i was right ladies and gentlemen, hilliarys preparation helped her in part to win the debate.

While donald trumps lack of preparation didnt do him any favours.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Lord Herbert
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 34441
Gender: male
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #66 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 2:37pm
 
mothra wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:25pm:
By the time i tuned in he was a blathering mess...  generally agreed upon.

He shouted over the moderator,  made outrageous claims,  lied through his teeth and blew his own trumpet.

Trump came out looking like a combative,  narcissistic imbecile.


Exactly.

For me he convincingly demonstrated exceptional credentials for being a politician way better than did his smiling Cheshire Cat opponent.

I'm hoping Marla will appreciate this and vote for him.

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Lord Herbert
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 34441
Gender: male
Re: The first presidential debate
Reply #67 - Sep 28th, 2016 at 2:48pm
 
Gordon wrote on Sep 28th, 2016 at 10:58am:
The people who will put Trump in the White House don't care about who won the debate.  They are voting against regressive leftist party politics and that will get him over the line.



Got it in one.

It really is as simple as that.

And also there are 20,000,000 people in the US who wear a cheap toupée Made in China like the candy floss blowing on top of Trump's head.

No prizes for guessing who they're going to vote for.

And then there are 30,000,000 people in the US who were teased in the playground as a child for having a mouth like a horse's arse.

No prizes for ....

And then ....
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 ... 3 4 5 
Send Topic Print