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Sorry, liberals. There's only 1 interpretation of
Oct 5th, 2016 at 9:57am
 

Sorry, liberals. There's only 1 interpretation of Islam — Muhammad's

- Dom Azarel....




Sorry, liberals. There's only 1 interpretation of Islam — Muhammad's
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5fVgM0gLQ






MY ARGUMENT [remains];
Every right minded person here, in Australia, should reject 'the moslem' [and reject the 'legitimacy' of the entire moslem community remaining in Australia].

The basis of my argument [and that opinion], was always founded and established and sustained, upon a single truth.

The truth which is plainly stated in the title of the YT, above.


Yadda said....
"STRAIGHT FROM THE PROPHETS MOUTH" [examples]
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1443218540/174#174



Truth cannot guide those who hate, and are opposed, to truth.

Understanding in a man, comes proportionately, imo, from the degree of his own respect for truth.


Deuteronomy 32:4
....a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Proverbs 4:7
Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.




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We Australians, should reject 'the moslem'       [and reject the 'legitimacy', of the entire moslem community remaining in Australia] ?


Q.
Why so ?


A.
Every moslem, is a moslem.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1459586210/51#51
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QUESTION;


Who or what, is a moslem ???


A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.

And mainstream ISLAM is a philosophy which [within its doctrines, and tenets, and laws] teaches every moslem,        .....that a moslem who murders an enemy of Allah, is a good and virtuous person.



But, what or who, is 'an enemy of Allah' ???


ISLAM [in the Koran] defines anyone who is a disbeliever, as an enemy of Allah!


Seriously,
          ......is it any wonder that so many 'nice' people, suddenly buy an airline ticket for Turkey [i.e. Syria], or walk into a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney, or go to the local mosque to obtain a pistol,               .....and then turn into homicidal maniacs ?

No,    ....it isn't.



Because;

Every moslem, is a moslem.






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Proverbs 8:1
Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2  She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3  She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4  Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5  O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6  Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7  For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8  All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9  They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.


Proverbs 4:5
Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
6  Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee.
7  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.


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Reply #1 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm
 
That’s it, keep fomenting that hate, hate’ll fix everything!
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Reply #2 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 3:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 1:26pm:
That’s it, keep fomenting that hate, hate’ll fix everything!



Speaking the truth, isn't fomenting hatred.

Speaking the truth, is speaking the truth.




Jovial, the HATER,

Where is my error ?





ARGUMENT;

Mohammed, was the proto moslem.

And, Mohammed, was [according to the endorsement of Allah] the pre-eminent example, in his actions, for all moslems to follow and imitate.


Mohammed was a tyrant who murdered anyone who opposed him.

And Mohammed had anyone who criticised him, ASSASSINATED !





THE EXAMPLE OF MOHAMMED [Allah's messenger], AS RECORDED IN ISLAMIC TEXTS

Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf was a critic of Mohammed....

"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #005.059.369





Mohammed [Allah's messenger] instructs the moslem, that murdering a poetess [who is 'threatening' his 'religion'] is halal....

Asma bint Marwan was a critic of Mohammed.

Mohammed didn't confront Asma bint Marwan, and show how her views of him were mistaken, or in error.

Mohammed called for someone to assassinate her....



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Ishaq: 676 “[Context note: Asma bint Marwan was a writer. She wrote critically of Muhammad, telling her tribe to be wary of him, like this:] ‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling baby and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said, ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’
http://www.foundalis.com/rlg/Islam_and_peace.htm


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #3 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 3:34pm
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 3:27pm:

Mohammed, was the proto moslem.

And, Mohammed, was [according to the endorsement of Allah] the pre-eminent example, in his actions, for all moslems to follow and imitate.




Mohammed ['the messenger of Allah'] was a filthy, stinking, unrestrained, murderous killer.

Read ISLAMIC texts.

It is ISLAMIC texts, that attest to that fact.

No reasonable person would be able to come to any other conclusion.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #4 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm
 
I wonder how this then explains the creation and continuance of the following Islamic sects/Schools of theology?

Sunni
Shia
Ibadi
Sufism
Wahhabism
Islamic Modernism
Ahl-i Hadith
Mahdavia
Gülen movement
Ahmadiyya movement
Bāṭeniyyah
Murji'ah
Qadariyyah
Mu'tazili
Jahmiyyah
Quranism
Ahmadiyya

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Looks rather like Christianity in that respect, don't you think?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 7:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
I wonder how this then explains the creation and continuance of the following Islamic sects/Schools of theology?

Sunni
Shia
Ibadi
Sufism
Wahhabism
Islamic Modernism
Ahl-i Hadith
Mahdavia
Gülen movement
Ahmadiyya movement
Bāṭeniyyah
Murji'ah
Qadariyyah
Mu'tazili
Jahmiyyah
Quranism
Ahmadiyya

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Looks rather like Christianity in that respect, don't you think?    Roll Eyes



No.

Christians are not murdering others, Christians, Muslims or otherwise, in the name of Christianity.

Muslims murder Muslims, Christians and others in the name of Islam every day, several times.


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Reply #6 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 8:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 4:48pm:
I wonder how this then explains the creation and continuance of the following Islamic sects/Schools of theology?

Sunni
Shia
Ibadi
Sufism
Wahhabism
Islamic Modernism
Ahl-i Hadith
Mahdavia
Gülen movement
Ahmadiyya movement
Bāṭeniyyah
Murji'ah
Qadariyyah
Mu'tazili
Jahmiyyah
Quranism
Ahmadiyya

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No.

Christians are not murdering others, Christians, Muslims or otherwise, in the name of Christianity.


Ask Sarah Palin that queston, Frank.  You might be surprised what middle-America believes on the matter.  You might be surprised what Yadda and others like him believe.

Quote:
Muslims murder Muslims, Christians and others in the name of Islam every day, several times.


Some Muslims do.  Most Muslims don't.   Why do you find it hard to differentiate between the two groups, Frank?   A broad brush suits your narrative better, I take it?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - Oct 5th, 2016 at 10:00pm
 
Response to post #4, by Brian Ross,



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Brian Ross,

Name just one of these ISLAMIC groups, whose followers DO NOT revere Mohammed.

Name just one of these ISLAMIC groups, who teach their followers, that they SHOULD NOT imitate the example of Mohammed's life.




Mohammed, was described by the ISLAMIC deity, Allah, as exemplifying a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for the moslem man to follow.

as per.....

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah [i.e. Mohammed] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."
Koran 33.021




THIS WAS MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE

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Quote:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger"
= = Mohammed was in the company of these men.

"on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women"
= = it was some form of raiding party, where they, 'took captive some excellent Arab women'.

"and we desired them"
= = hmmmm, i wonder what that means?

"for we were suffering from the absence of our wives"
= = ah, in the absence they wives, they desired these women for sex, to satisfy their sexual lust.

"(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them."
= = in their minds, they sought to sexually 'use' these captive Arab women, and then let their menfolk redeem them.

"So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them"
= = yep, Allah's finest, sought to sexually 'use' these 'excellent' captive Arab women.



Those [above] extracts from the Hadith are cited, with references, here;

Bikeway rapist gets 25 years in jail
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251431040/8#8


Q.
Why did Mohammed believe that he was permitted to behave in this was towards captive women ?

A.
In ISLAMIC law, ALL captive non-moslem women, are considered to be war booty [i.e. 'lawful' rape candidates, available to be used for the pleasure of moslem men]...


"..Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess:..."
Koran 4.22-24

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee;..."
Koran 33.50




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MOSLEM 'YOUTH' IN AUSTRALIA FOLLOWING MOHAMMED'S EXAMPLE

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-09/police-say-two-girls-gang-raped-at-fairfie...
2014-04-09
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Two schoolgirls gang-raped at Fairfield after meeting three men on Sydney train, police say
By police reporter Lucy Carter


Updated 1 hour 18 minutes ago

Two schoolgirls have been gang-raped by three men in broad daylight in Sydney's south west, police say, and there are fears the men could strike again.

According to police, the girls, both 16, skipped school in the Blacktown area to go shopping at Castle Hill.

....Superintendent Peter Lennon says they asked three men for directions and were told they would be shown to a bus terminal.

"The girls were lost, they were trying to get some help," Superintendent Lennon said.

"Unfortunately they were coaxed by these young men into coming to Fairfield - way, way off track of where they wanted to go."

......Superintendent Lennon the men had been described as being of "Middle Eastern Mediterranean" appearance.

The first male is described as being aged between 19 and 21 with a dark complexion, about 178cm tall, and with a thin build and dark hair.






Brian Ross,

According to ISLAMIC law those moslem 'youth', who raped two Australian schoolgirls did nothing unlawful.


Brian Ross,

Mainstream ISLAM teaches all moslems, that IT IS NOT UNLAWFUL for a moslem to kill a disbeliever.


Brian Ross,

If 'everyday' moslems believe these things [AND THEY DO!], are moslems the type of people, who we should be allowing to walk past us, on our streets ?




IMAGE...
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Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar outside Parramatta police headquarters





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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?




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...

Does he revere Jesus Christ, Yadda?

How about this person?

...

What about this person?

...

Or this person?

...

Do they all revere and obey what J.C. preached, Yadda?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 10:51pm:

Do they all revere and obey what J.C. preached, Yadda?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes




Brian_Ross,

What did Jesus preach ?




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Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.


Matthew 22:35
Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38  This is the first and great commandment.
39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


John 18:37
.....Jesus answered,.....To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.




Brian_Ross,

Q.
If i speak the truth [e.g. about what ISLAM preaches],       ....am i breaking God's law ?

i.e.
The law of the God of Israel.



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Yadda wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 10:51pm:

Do they all revere and obey what J.C. preached, Yadda?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes




Brian_Ross,

What did Jesus preach ?


No idea as there is no independent account of this person you refer to ever existing.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 6th, 2016 at 9:52pm:
Yadda wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 10:51pm:

Do they all revere and obey what J.C. preached, Yadda?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes




Brian_Ross,

What did Jesus preach ?



No idea as there is no independent account of this person you refer to ever existing.   Roll Eyes




This a a place of public debate.

A place where people can make arguments.




Some people who can't defeat the argument of another [because they are unable to present a reasoned argument themselves], will simply 'run away' from open public debate.

Or, they will choose to simply disparage the other person,     ....without addressing the substantive issue.


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So does that mean theres only 1 interpretation of the Bible?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 7th, 2016 at 1:34pm:
So does that mean theres only 1 interpretation of the Bible?


Considering the very wide contradictions between Yadda, Moses, and others here, I doubt it very, very, very much...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Oct 7th, 2016 at 6:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 8:51pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 5th, 2016 at 7:25pm:
Muslims murder Muslims, Christians and others in the name of Islam every day, several times.


Some Muslims do.  Most Muslims don't.   Why do you find it hard to differentiate between the two groups, Frank?   A broad brush suits your narrative better, I take it?   Roll Eyes



Because you can't tell them apart right up to the minute when they start allahu akhbaring and killing.

Until then they are all law abiding Muslims. They they get jihad and they kill people.

You can't tell which one will turn murderous for Allah.

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That's our Muslim refugee/immigrant problem.

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