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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #75 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia. 



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It's not about YOU!!!!  It really is not. Islam is not about you and your experiences.


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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #76 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 8:02pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:10pm:
Yadda spams Ozpolitic with the same pictures -

the same text - day after day.


I'd ban him if I was the moderator.




I'm just 'beating my drum' bobby.

Again, and again, and again.



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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #77 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia. 



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It's NOT, 
NOT
about
YOU
Brian, you vain, self absorbed fool.

It's not about YOU!!!!  It really is not. Islam is not about you and your experiences.


You are shocked, we all know.


Au contraire', Frank.   It is about me and you and every other Australian, Muslim or not.  If, as you claim your stereotype represents what the majority Australian Muslims believe, then I and other Australians would have met such extremists.  That we have not, makes it obviously that the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims.   Perhaps instead of painting a broadbrush stereotype, you should instead actually get out there and meet some real life Muslims?    Roll Eyes
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #78 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia. 



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It's NOT, 
NOT
about
YOU
Brian, you vain, self absorbed fool.

It's not about YOU!!!!  It really is not. Islam is not about you and your experiences.


You are shocked, we all know.


Au contraire', Frank.   It is about me and you and every other Australian, Muslim or not.  If, as you claim your stereotype represents what the majority Australian Muslims believe, then I and other Australians would have met such extremists.  That we have not, makes it obviously that the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims.   Perhaps instead of painting a broadbrush stereotype, you should instead actually get out there and meet some real life Muslims?    Roll Eyes
Try marrying one of their daughters. The kuffar are not allowed.
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #79 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:04am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia. 



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It's NOT, 
NOT
about
YOU
Brian, you vain, self absorbed fool.

It's not about YOU!!!!  It really is not. Islam is not about you and your experiences.


You are shocked, we all know.


Au contraire', Frank.   It is about me and you and every other Australian, Muslim or not.  If, as you claim your stereotype represents what the majority Australian Muslims believe, then I and other Australians would have met such extremists.  That we have not, makes it obviously that the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims.   Perhaps instead of painting a broadbrush stereotype, you should instead actually get out there and meet some real life Muslims?    Roll Eyes
Try marrying one of their daughters. The kuffar are not allowed.


I think your record needle is stuck...   Roll Eyes
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #80 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:10am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:04am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia. 



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It's NOT, 
NOT
about
YOU
Brian, you vain, self absorbed fool.

It's not about YOU!!!!  It really is not. Islam is not about you and your experiences.


You are shocked, we all know.


Au contraire', Frank.   It is about me and you and every other Australian, Muslim or not.  If, as you claim your stereotype represents what the majority Australian Muslims believe, then I and other Australians would have met such extremists.  That we have not, makes it obviously that the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims.   Perhaps instead of painting a broadbrush stereotype, you should instead actually get out there and meet some real life Muslims?    Roll Eyes
Try marrying one of their daughters. The kuffar are not allowed.


I think your record needle is stuck...   Roll Eyes
I can't help it if your beloved islam has a scratch.
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #81 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:51am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm:
the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims. 



But their actions are rooted in the ideology of Islam.

And so examining, criticising and rejecting Islam is an entirely legitimate and sane and honest path.   Your stupidity is deeply rooted in your deliberately dishonest and stupid insistence that criticism and rejection of Islam is exactly the same as the criticism and rejection of every single person who was born into Islam, regardless of their level of acceptance or rejection of Islam.





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Reply #82 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 10:19am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:33pm:
It is increasingly obvious, Yadda that you had never met a Muslim, moderate or extremist.  Your opinion is based upon ignorance and prejudice.   You spread lies based on stereotypes and hatred.   I am increasingly suspicious that you aren't even a real Christian.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #83 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But their actions are rooted in
my understanding of
the ideology of Islam.


fixed for you Frank.
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #84 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia.  I have met dozens if not hundreds of Australian Muslims and none of them would fit your stereotype as an extremist.  QED.    Roll Eyes



You are now an expert on muslim extremists because the few you met did not kill you or tell you they were muslim extremists.

Fkk it, Im sold.


We should find some sort of excuse for those that don't meet your view of muslims, when they go out and 'kill whitey' or plan terrorist attacks on Australian soil.

As this will not do.

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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #85 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:27pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But their actions are rooted in
my understanding of
the ideology of Islam.


fixed for you Frank.



No, you didn't.  It is very, very easy to interpret Islam as a solid basis for violent jihad.

Try interpreting Gandhi or Tolstoy or Mormonism or humanism as solid grounds for violent warfare against their opponents and disbelievers.

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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #86 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 3:27pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:04pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:51am:
But their actions are rooted in
my understanding of
the ideology of Islam.


fixed for you Frank.



No, you didn't.  It is very, very easy to interpret Islam as a solid basis for violent jihad.

Try interpreting Gandhi...


Gandhi's notion of satyagraha, or "truth force", was influenced by Islam. The modern practice of civil disobedience and passive resistance, which Gandhi invented, is heavily inspired by spiritual struggle, or jihad. 

When Muhammed Ali refused to be drafted to fight in Vietnam ("no Vietnamese ever called me n----r"), he didn't reference Gandhi, but Muhammed.

You may cite Gandhi, old boy, but your regularly incite violent warfare against your perceived opponents. If all you did here was express your disagreement with your opponents, you might have some integrity. But your calls cover a broad spectrum of violence, from burqa-snatching to carpet-bombing. You target a range of opponents, from those you accuse of "not fitting in" (the bearded) to people with a certain shade of skin pigmentation (the tinted). 

All this would be fine if you just acknowledged your tribalism. You don't stand up for Western Enlightenment values, as you claim, but an elitist, white privileged mindset - a notion of entitlement based on your own ancestry and self-professed superiority. You impatiently tolerate "the tinted races" if they know their place and express their subservience to you. You've said this many times. You like to quote Kipling's White Man's Burden, expressing the noble act of keeping the tinted races in their place. 

Maintaining the suppression of those you see as inferior requires constant violence, and you scorn anyone who questions the necessity of such violence. This would be fine too if you just owned up to it, but you express such violence while you invoke the Western liberal tradition, feigning a higher cause - liberty, justice, human rights, the rule of law - while you advocate the erosion of all these things.

No worries, old boy, we understand. You uphold liberal principles and social justice for a select few. For the rest of humanity, you advocate - what do you call it?

Submission.

White man's burden, innit.
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #87 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 3:48pm
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 8:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:10pm:
Yadda spams Ozpolitic with the same pictures -

the same text - day after day.


I'd ban him if I was the moderator.




I'm just 'beating my drum' bobby.

Again, and again, and again.



Sorry bobby.


Deuteronomy 29:4






forgiven but get some new material -

you're like a broken record.
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #88 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 6:24pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:10am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:04am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 6:59pm:
Opinion Polls only provide a snapshot, Yadda of public opinion at the time the questions are asked.  That is why they change markedly over time.   The overwhelming majority of Australian Muslims do not support Terrorism.  They do not support regressive Islamic beliefs or practices.  Time you actually met some.  You'll find they are just as human as you are...   Roll Eyes



How do you know that the Muslims you know and have met represent the overwhelming majority on Australian Muslims??


Because I have never met an Islamic extremist in Australia. 



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


It's NOT, 
NOT
about
YOU
Brian, you vain, self absorbed fool.

It's not about YOU!!!!  It really is not. Islam is not about you and your experiences.


You are shocked, we all know.


Au contraire', Frank.   It is about me and you and every other Australian, Muslim or not.  If, as you claim your stereotype represents what the majority Australian Muslims believe, then I and other Australians would have met such extremists.  That we have not, makes it obviously that the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims.   Perhaps instead of painting a broadbrush stereotype, you should instead actually get out there and meet some real life Muslims?    Roll Eyes
Try marrying one of their daughters. The kuffar are not allowed.


I think your record needle is stuck...   Roll Eyes
I can't help it if your beloved islam has a scratch.


Not my "beloved Islam".  It is however the Islam of all my Muslim friends.   Funny that.  I wonder how many Muslims you know or are friends with, Hammer?

Oh, and your needle is still stuck...    Roll Eyes
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Re: There is a Terror Network in Australia
Reply #89 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 6:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:51am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 11:54pm:
the extremists are very much in the minority amongst Australian Muslims. 


But their actions are rooted in the ideology of Islam.


One, mistaken, interpretetation of Islam just as Joseph Kony's and other religious extremists is in their own religion, Frank.

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And so examining, criticising and rejecting Islam is an entirely legitimate and sane and honest path.   Your stupidity is deeply rooted in your deliberately dishonest and stupid insistence that criticism and rejection of Islam is exactly the same as the criticism and rejection of every single person who was born into Islam, regardless of their level of acceptance or rejection of Islam.


My opposition to your stance is because it is based upon ignorance and hatred, not sensible, rational, legitimate examination.   You are a bigot, Frank.  If you really rejected Islam you would simply say, "I reject Islam" and then leave it at that but you keep returning here, spouting your hatred and bigotry towards Islam and Muslims.    Roll Eyes
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