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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17985 Gender:	Re: What the Greenies Want to Keep Quiet. . Reply #45 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 2:09pm Pho Huc wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 1:30pm: I'm open to any peer reviewed research you have which indicates that global warming is caused by changing land use instead of CO2. Once again, you misconstrue, deliberately I think, what I say. CO2 may play a small part in AGW. Have you finally got it?
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: What the Greenies Want to Keep Quiet. . Reply #46 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 2:15pm Nope. You confused me when you made the assertion that climate change was caused by changing land use. You totally lost me when you failed(as per usual) to provide any credible evidence for your opinion.
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Reply #47 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 2:24pm

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Nope. You confused me when you made the assertion that climate change was caused by changing land use.
You totally lost me when you failed(as per usual) to provide any credible evidence for your opinion.

Yes, I have noticed you are easily confused.

You seem to think it is only CO2 that has the potential to change climate.

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Reply #48 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 9:26pm

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 2:24pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Nope. You confused me when you made the assertion that climate change was caused by changing land use.
You totally lost me when you failed(as per usual) to provide any credible evidence for your opinion.

Yes, I have noticed you are easily confused.

You seem to think it is only CO2 that has the potential to change climate.

I know that you like to misrepresent papers and documents, Ill have you stop misrepresenting me. I acknowledge that many factors affect climate. This doesn't distract me from the fact that 80-85% of the worlds AGW is caused by GHG's.

.............. any evidence for your claims that anything other than GHG's is driving climate change yet?

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Reply #49 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:05pm

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 9:26pm:

I know that you like to misrepresent papers and documents, Ill have you stop misrepresenting me. I acknowledge that many factors affect climate. This doesn't distract me from the fact that 80-85% of the worlds AGW is caused by GHG's.

Oh, confected outrage, How cute.

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Reply #50 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:19am

lee wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 11:05pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 9:26pm:

I know that you like to misrepresent papers and documents, Ill have you stop misrepresenting me. I acknowledge that many factors affect climate. This doesn't distract me from the fact that 80-85% of the worlds AGW is caused by GHG's.

Oh, confected outrage, How cute.

I believe the word your going for is concocted.

If your going to continue claiming that something other than GHG emissions is responsible for global worming you going to mount a slightly better case than that.
I know you would rather bitch about how I keep nagging you for evidence to support your constant assertions than actually supply any.

Again, my position is that GHG emissions are the primary driver of the current rapid increase in global temperature, and global temperatures are increasing at a rate greater than any time in recorded history.

Your position isn't quite a clear.

Maybe you could just post exactly what your position is, because it feels like you move the goal posts occasionally when your debating people.
I'm sure its a mistake on my part, But just for the benefit of the slightly weaker minded like myself could you please explain in a way that simple to read and understand-and feel free to nuance it as much as you want- Just please be clear.

My thanks in advance and hey- you will be able to keep the powder dry on the credible research that forms the basis of those opinions.

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Reply #51 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:27am

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:19am:

I believe the word your going for is concocted.

Wrong. eg "But, as I have remarked before, few events pass by these days without some confected moral outrage."

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Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:19am:

Again, my position is that GHG emissions are the primary driver of the current rapid increase in global temperature, and global temperatures are increasing at a rate greater than any time in recorded history.

How many years of recorded global temperatures do we have? At most 300 years, and yet to you that provides conclusive proof.

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:19am:

I know you would rather bitch about how I keep nagging you for evidence to support your constant assertions than actually supply any.

But you are the one that needs to disprove the null hypothesis.

You say you believe in naturally occurring warming - trees.

You say you trust the models.

But the IPCC doesn't show any natural warming in their Attribution Chapter.

And you think I'm confused.

You say you trust the IPCC.

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Reply #52 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:29pm

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:27am:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:19am:

I believe the word your going for is concocted.

Wrong. eg "But, as I have remarked before, few events pass by these days without some confected moral outrage."

Please, if you cant even check a dictionary to see if your mangling the english language how do you expect anyone to believe your going to check anything you post up here?

Please anyone here, look up confect Grin

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Reply #54 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:57pm

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Please, if you cant even check a dictionary to see if your mangling the english language how do you expect anyone to believe your going to check anything you post up here?

Please anyone here, look up confect Grin

Here is the reference for my quote-

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/No+moss+gathered+on+Sir+Mick%3B+Robert+Sutcliffe+...

Such a pity that you think you have a good handle on English.

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Reply #55 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 3:22pm

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:57pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Please, if you cant even check a dictionary to see if your mangling the english language how do you expect anyone to believe your going to check anything you post up here?

Please anyone here, look up confect Grin

Here is the reference for my quote-

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/No+moss+gathered+on+Sir+Mick%3B+Robert+Sutcliffe+...

Such a pity that you think you have a good handle on English.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to look in the dictionary,
realize that confected is not a word, then apologize for your mistake.

There is nothing wrong with making mistakes! its how you learn..........

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Reply #56 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 3:31pm

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 3:22pm:

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:57pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Please, if you cant even check a dictionary to see if your mangling the english language how do you expect anyone to believe your going to check anything you post up here?

Please anyone here, look up confect Grin

Here is the reference for my quote-

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/No+moss+gathered+on+Sir+Mick%3B+Robert+Sutcliffe+...

Such a pity that you think you have a good handle on English.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to look in the dictionary,
realize that confected is not a word, then apologize for your mistake.

There is nothing wrong with making mistakes! its how you learn..........

con·fect (kən-fĕkt′)
tr.v. con·fect·ed, con·fect·ing, con·fects
1. To make into a confection or preserve.
2. To put together by combining materials: a group of writers who confected a television series.
n. (kŏn′fĕkt′)
A sweet confection, such as candy.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/confected

Do you want to continue to show your ignorance?

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Reply #57 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 4:21pm

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 3:31pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 3:22pm:

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:57pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 2:29pm:

Please, if you cant even check a dictionary to see if your mangling the english language how do you expect anyone to believe your going to check anything you post up here?

Please anyone here, look up confect Grin

Here is the reference for my quote-

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/No+moss+gathered+on+Sir+Mick%3B+Robert+Sutcliffe+...

Such a pity that you think you have a good handle on English.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to look in the dictionary,
realize that confected is not a word, then apologize for your mistake.

There is nothing wrong with making mistakes! its how you learn..........

con·fect (kən-fĕkt′)
tr.v. con·fect·ed, con·fect·ing, con·fects
1. To make into a confection or preserve.
2. To put together by combining materials: a group of writers who confected a television series.
n. (kŏn′fĕkt′)
A sweet confection, such as candy.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/confected

Do you want to continue to show your ignorance?

I stand corrected. I didnt realise that confect had an adjective.
my bad

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Reply #58 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 4:28pm

lee wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 10:27am:

You say you believe in naturally occurring warming - trees.

?????

You say you trust the models.

where?

But the IPCC doesn't show any natural warming in their Attribution Chapter.

The IPCC. Who you state are wrong. Except for the bits you agree with, which depends on what day of the week it is...

And you think I'm confused.

not really. I think that your confusing.

You say you trust the IPCC.

much more than unqualifed knowalls from the internet who can't provide credible evidence for any of their assertions regarding climatic variation

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Reply #59 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 4:45pm

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 4:28pm:

The IPCC. Who you state are wrong. Except for the bits you agree with, which depends on what day of the week it is...

What don't you get about me pointing out the inconsistencies?

Pho Huc wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 4:28pm:

You say you trust the IPCC.

much more than unqualifed knowalls from the internet who can't provide credible evidence for any of their assertions regarding climatic variation

Even when the "lose" the data of natural variability and internal variability?

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