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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #15 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:33pm

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 11:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 9:56am:

I wonder what irrelevant side issue Lee will use to detract and deflect?

from your quote -

'That theory goes back to 1896, Swedish physical chemist Svante Arrhenius did the initial work on that. He subsequently got a Nobel prize for other work and he identified that back in 1896 that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, for basic physical reasons will trap heat.'

Two things immediately spring to mind.

1. Why does Finkel use Arrhenius 1896 paper? In his 1906 paper he lowered the amount of warming postulated by a doubling of CO2. In his 1896 paper he said 5 or 6°C. In his 1906 paper he said 1.6°C - 3.9°C. But the same qualifiers persist.

2. Chief among them, and something entirely missed by Finkel, is the part where Arrhenius said "all other things being equal".

To date no-one has shown that all other things are equal. Water vapour, Air pressure. Isn't that one of the first things they should try to prove?

Of course you will probably think that is a deflection, because you are a true beleiber (sic).

BTW - Didn't someone the other day post hat there was more water vapour in the atmosphere?

There is more water vapour because of an injection of GHG's by man: we don't drill for water and burn it so it becomes a problem.

Are you, like, a chick on speed or something mate?

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:46pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:07pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 9:56am:

by our Chief Scientist.

Please read and educate yourself.

I wonder what irrelevant side issue Lee will use to detract and deflect?

lee has already made up his mind

future generations of children MUST be sacrificed so that his delusional sub-standard of living can be maintained today - in his own mind of course.

There is nothing you can do about it.

facts, peer reviewed articles, experts - it doesnt matter to Bruce - he continues to worship the Great Bolt in the Sky - his mentor.

It is very fortunate for me that I have only a hand full of posts remaining before I depart

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I'd be sad to see that day but- well- I will rejoice for you because this internet thing never learns!

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:53pm

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 3:52pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:04pm:

We are getting there tho, and that rate of coal burning has probably accelerated too. Not only that, we are destroying CO2 sinks like forests, just look at what is happening in the Amazon!

D- deflection. Needs to try harder.

Highlighted - Deflection, still a net CO2 sink.

Now you need to expand on that and show the reserves will provide the level of CO2 that you seek.

And don't forget Australia and South America (still) are CO2 sinks.

Is lee entertaining a non changing world?

....like wtf is this forum? Grin

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:59pm

lee wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 11:51am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 10:12pm:

the basic principles of AGW are grasped easily by secondary and even primary school level students.

Even the bit "All other things being equal"?

Water vapour is increasing, therefore "all other things" have not remained equal. Wink

Basic principle. Wink

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2016 at 10:42pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:46pm:

I'd be sad to see that day but- well- I will rejoice for you because this internet thing never learns!

I shouldn't have bothered spending twelve months dreaming up a new gmail account now I think about it... DRATS, BUT BULLY FOR YOU AS YOU HAVE BEEN A SAGE TO THIS FORUM AND DONE YOUR BIT TO SAVE THE KIDS

thanks mate - but there is absolutely nothing anyone can do now - my time here is almost up - I am washed up and finished.

Its all over for me mate.

I am very proud and honoured that you have dedicated ONE of your magnificent 15 posts on Ozpolotic as a formal response to one of my posts.

Well done mate

Well done on that front

You should be congratulated on your public efforts.

You will reach 30,000 or more posts, like Jethro, in no time. I will not be present on this glorious day, but it will happen mate - and well done again

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #20 - Oct 29^th, 2016 at 9:30am Some REAL AGW scientists putting their lives on the line: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/science/gordon-hamilton.html?_r=0 Go on Lee, post some cheap diversion about this!
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17983 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #21 - Oct 29^th, 2016 at 4:19pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29^th, 2016 at 9:30am: Some REAL AGW scientists putting their lives on the line: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/25/science/gordon-hamilton.html?_r=0 Go on Lee, post some cheap diversion about this! Seeing I am not a subscriber, tell me what you want met think.
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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #22 - Oct 29^th, 2016 at 4:21pm

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

There is more water vapour because of an injection of GHG's by man: we don't drill for water and burn it so it becomes a problem.

Are you, like, a chick on speed or something mate?

You have a similar writing style to one we know. Are you sure you are not a sock? Wink

BTW - That greater water vapour must be making things warmer, eh?

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #23 - Oct 31^st, 2016 at 5:10pm

lee wrote on Oct 29^th, 2016 at 4:21pm:

TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 27^th, 2016 at 5:33pm:

There is more water vapour because of an injection of GHG's by man: we don't drill for water and burn it so it becomes a problem.

Are you, like, a chick on speed or something mate?

You have a similar writing style to one we know. Are you sure you are not a sock? Wink

BTW - That greater water vapour must be making things warmer, eh?

You can't deal with me son: you're toast!

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17983 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #24 - Oct 31^st, 2016 at 6:22pm TheFunPolice wrote on Oct 31^st, 2016 at 5:10pm: You can't deal with me son: you're toast! Butter me up. Thanks DAD.
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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #25 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 9:33am It's interesting that the 2 Greens senators resigned from the senate when they discovered that they had citizenship issues. On the other hand Malcolm Roberts just lied about his citizenship issues. It's easy to see who has more integrity
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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #26 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 12:52pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 9:33am:

It's interesting that the 2 Greens senators resigned from the senate when they discovered that they had citizenship issues.

On the other hand Malcolm Roberts just lied about his citizenship issues.

It's easy to see who has more integrity

Obviously not you. This is supposedly a science thread. Grin

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #27 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 1:54pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 9:33am:

It's interesting that the 2 Greens senators resigned from the senate when they discovered that they had citizenship issues.

On the other hand Malcolm Roberts just lied about his citizenship issues.

It's easy to see who has more integrity

Not strictly true and what has it got to do with AGW?
All it means is that we have political parties who do not prepare or vet their candidates properly.
Roberts BTW can put an argument together re AGW and is more correct than a great many climate zealots.

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Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW
Reply #28 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 2:13pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 9:33am:

It's interesting that the 2 Greens senators resigned from the senate when they discovered that they had citizenship issues.

On the other hand Malcolm Roberts just lied about his citizenship issues.

It's easy to see who has more integrity

Not strictly true and what has it got to do with AGW?
All it means is that we have political parties who do not prepare or vet their candidates properly.
Roberts BTW can put an argument together re AGW and is more correct than a great many climate zealots.

This is the environment forum and the Greens are an environmental party. The thread involves Malcolm Roberts and his reliability and integrity is completely relevant to the topic.

He has shown himself to be completely untrustworthy and a liar

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17983 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #29 - Oct 29^th, 2017 at 3:55pm The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 2:13pm: The thread involves Malcolm Roberts and his reliability and integrity is completely relevant to the topic. Well perhaps, addressing the topic, you can point out the flaws in what he said on AGW.
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