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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Oct 21^st, 2016 at 9:56am by our Chief Scientist. https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/you-got-polar-ice-for-that-burn?utm_term=... Please read and educate yourself. I wonder what irrelevant side issue Lee will use to detract and deflect?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #1 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:08am From 1912!
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Reply #2 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 11:50am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 9:56am:

I wonder what irrelevant side issue Lee will use to detract and deflect?

from your quote -

'That theory goes back to 1896, Swedish physical chemist Svante Arrhenius did the initial work on that. He subsequently got a Nobel prize for other work and he identified that back in 1896 that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, for basic physical reasons will trap heat.'

Two things immediately spring to mind.

1. Why does Finkel use Arrhenius 1896 paper? In his 1906 paper he lowered the amount of warming postulated by a doubling of CO2. In his 1896 paper he said 5 or 6°C. In his 1906 paper he said 1.6°C - 3.9°C. But the same qualifiers persist.

2. Chief among them, and something entirely missed by Finkel, is the part where Arrhenius said "all other things being equal".

To date no-one has shown that all other things are equal. Water vapour, Air pressure. Isn't that one of the first things they should try to prove?

Of course you will probably think that is a deflection, because you are a true beleiber (sic).

BTW - Didn't someone the other day post hat there was more water vapour in the atmosphere?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #3 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 11:51am Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:08am: From 1912! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvHvSd2UAAA6y4f.jpg Yep. we're nowhere near a few centuries from 1912.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #4 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:04pm We are getting there tho, and that rate of coal burning has probably accelerated too. Not only that, we are destroying CO2 sinks like forests, just look at what is happening in the Amazon! D- deflection. Needs to try harder.
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Reply #5 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:07pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 9:56am:

by our Chief Scientist.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/you-got-polar-ice-for-that-burn?utm_term=...

Please read and educate yourself.

I wonder what irrelevant side issue Lee will use to detract and deflect?

lee has already made up his mind

future generations of children MUST be sacrificed so that his delusional sub-standard of living can be maintained today - in his own mind of course.

There is nothing you can do about it.

facts, peer reviewed articles, experts - it doesnt matter to Bruce - he continues to worship the Great Bolt in the Sky - his mentor.

It is very fortunate for me that I have only a hand full of posts remaining before I depart

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Reply #6 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 3:52pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:04pm:

We are getting there tho, and that rate of coal burning has probably accelerated too. Not only that, we are destroying CO2 sinks like forests, just look at what is happening in the Amazon!

D- deflection. Needs to try harder.

Highlighted - Deflection, still a net CO2 sink.

Now you need to expand on that and show the reserves will provide the level of CO2 that you seek.

And don't forget Australia and South America (still) are CO2 sinks.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #7 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 3:54pm Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:07pm: facts, peer reviewed articles, experts - it doesnt matter to Bruce - he continues to worship the Great Bolt in the Sky - his mentor. No peer-reviewed article supporting your position? Why am I not surprised?
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Reply #8 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 6:35pm

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 3:54pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 12:07pm:

facts, peer reviewed articles, experts - it doesnt matter to Bruce - he continues to worship the Great Bolt in the Sky - his mentor.

No peer-reviewed article supporting your position? Why am I not surprised?

You trust Bolt and EXXON-MOBIL executives

Why am I not surprised

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Reply #9 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 7:24pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 6:35pm:

You trust Bolt and EXXON-MOBIL executives

Why am I not surprised

You still haven't told me who Bolt is.

Edit: There is a Bolty's Electrical in Wagin.

As for Exxon-Mobil it seems strange that the Republican AG's having been running away from their RICO attempt, at a great rate of knots.

It seems it was more politically inspired, with much input from Greenpeace, Al Gore etc, than a genuine attempt. Something to provide theatre for the Presidential Election.

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Reply #10 - Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm

lee wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 7:24pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 6:35pm:

You trust Bolt and EXXON-MOBIL executives

Why am I not surprised

You still haven't told me who Bolt is.

Edit: There is a Bolty's Electrical in Wagin.

As for Exxon-Mobil it seems strange that the Republican AG's having been running away from their RICO attempt, at a great rate of knots.

It seems it was more politically inspired, with much input from Greenpeace, Al Gore etc, than a genuine attempt. Something to provide theatre for the Presidential Election.

Who is this ALice Gore lady you keep dragging up? Is she a Climatologist?

Why did EXXON conceal their own internal research into the dangers of global warming and its effect of the earth's climate system?

I am sure you are aware that EXXON is being sued over its climate change cover up and fraud?

Why is that happening lee?

You should apologise before I vacate this establishment - a vacation event that will occur prior to Halloween

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Reply #11 - Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 11:08am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Who is this ALice Gore lady you keep dragging up? Is she a Climatologist?

Albert (Al) Gore - oncea Vice president of the USA. He a[ppeared at the stage manages Democrat Attorney's General meet, where they proclaimed a RICO (Racketeering) charge against Exxon-Mobil. Now exactly why an ex-politician, who is not involved in law enforcement anywhere, should be at a meeting with the Attorney's General at that time is unclear. But it certainly seems political.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Why did EXXON conceal their own internal research into the dangers of global warming and its effect of the earth's climate system?

You mean those hundreds of research papers that they wrote and were published in peer-reviewed magazines? Concealment in plain sight. Cheesy

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:

I am sure you are aware that EXXON is being sued over its climate change cover up and fraud?

You haven't been paying attention, the Democrat AG's have backed away at a great rate of knots. Try googling #Exxon-knew, perhaps the last month and see what pops up. Wink

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Reply #12 - Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 3:59pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Who is this ALice Gore lady you keep dragging up? Is she a Climatologist?

Hmm. Jovial Monk cites Australia's Chief Scientist. Is he a Climatologist?

'Chief scientist Dr Alan Finkel (who has a PhD in electrical engineering and was a postdoctorate. fellow in neuroscience)'

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/you-got-polar-ice-for-that-burn?utm_term=...

I guess the answer is an emphatic "NO".

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Reply #13 - Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 10:12pm

lee wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 3:59pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 21^st, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Who is this ALice Gore lady you keep dragging up? Is she a Climatologist?

Hmm. Jovial Monk cites Australia's Chief Scientist. Is he a Climatologist?

'Chief scientist Dr Alan Finkel (who has a PhD in electrical engineering and was a postdoctorate. fellow in neuroscience)'

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/you-got-polar-ice-for-that-burn?utm_term=...

I guess the answer is an emphatic "NO".

the basic principles of AGW are grasped easily by secondary and even primary school level students.

i noticed that you were very silent on Sir Bobby's reference to Dr. Sircus and his baking soda cancer cure, whilst he was moonlighting as an expert on AGW and climate change.

Bruce has entangled himself in his own web of deceit and toxified his soul in a drenched venom of hatred.

i will miss his deranged sense of cerebral stench and self contained delusional verbal excrement...

i formally thank you for the entertainment and free data points on my insanity plot....

there is no need to apologise because its really not your fault Bruce.....but you must self ban

cheers mate

all the best

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: Sen Malcolm Roberts gets schooled in AGW Reply #14 - Oct 23^rd, 2016 at 11:51am Chimp_Logic wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2016 at 10:12pm: the basic principles of AGW are grasped easily by secondary and even primary school level students. Even the bit "All other things being equal"? Water vapour is increasing, therefore "all other things" have not remained equal. Basic principle.
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