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Reply #15 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

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Reply #16 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #17 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:37pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Trump.

You know, the guy accused of raping at least one child and sexually assaulting countless women.

Would you leave your kids alone with him?

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Reply #18 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Trump.

You know, the guy accused of raping at least one child and sexually assaulting countless women.

Would you leave your kids alone with him?

A man with sexual assault "allegations" is worse than a warmonger??? That makes Bill Shorten worse than a warmonger.
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Reply #19 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:43pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 10:16am:
mothra wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 10:11am:
He's a spoilt brat.


A privileged spoilt brat.

I just can't get over the irony - the entitlement, the privilege, the abuse of power - he literally oozes everything his support base is so angry about.


Very well put. Trump would be a disaster for his support base, but they don't actually know what Trump plans to do. Amerikan Trump supporters - and I've met a few - say Trump "will shake things up". They acknowledge it's a risky strategy, but they believe this is what Amerika needs right now.

I disagree. Vehemently. In politics and leadership, you need a well known and agreed plan. We live in democracies. We're free to follow leaders or not. They - and their policies - are subject to our willingness to keep them in their jobs. Nations can't possibly implement policies and political visions without getting the public and stakeholders engaged first. Look at the small examples of Rudd's mining tax, or JuLiar's carbon tax.

Presidents can't "shake things up". All they can do is appoint people for government jobs and propose policies to congress and the senate. Shaking things up does not go down well in government.

Trump can shake things up in speeches and Twitter posts, but that's about it. What Trump supporters seem to want is an entertainer, not a president. They would, of course, be hugely disappointed with the performance of such a president. Who would they blame then?

They were warned about Bush and Iraq, but they didn't listen. Now, they want to ignore their own support for Iraq and blame Hillary. Even Trump's support for this war - his statements on radio - are ignored. Sure, Trump and his fans here changed their minds about Iraq, but by then it was too late.

They're now planning on walking straight into a Trump presidency and an invasion of Syria. And when you point this out, they throw their hands up in the air and say, but we need to do something.

Yes, you need to support those with a little more restraint and foresight. Trump has been exposed as having none of this. His history of walking up to women and tongue kissing them says a lot. His willingness to brag about this on camera is even more telling. Trump supporters see such "honesty" as refreshing. Today, even Trump says he regrets saying it.

But obviously, not doing it.

What we now know of Trump is enough to prove he would be a massive failure as a president. What his fans should know is that he plans policies that go completely against their interests. Yes, Trump is not a career politician, but this is hardly a virtue. His lack of knowledge about government and constitutional processes means that many of his planned policies are not in his power to implement.

And this is a good thing.
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Re: Exactly as I predicted
Reply #20 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:50pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Because she voted for a war you yourself supported?

But, Homo, what does that make you?
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Reply #21 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Because she voted for a war you yourself supported?

But, Homo, what does that make you?
I don't make big world decisions dear. I'm an ordinary man who is at the mercy of a tide created by more powerful man. The TV is something I laugh at  because it makes me sick. I laugh at their wars. I laugh at their rubbish. I laugh at you rabid leftards. Don't heap stupid wars devised by powerful men on my shoulders.
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Reply #22 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Because she voted for a war you yourself supported?

But, Homo, what does that make you?
I don't make big world decisions dear. I'm an ordinary man who is at the mercy of a tide created by more powerful man. The TV is something I laugh at  because it makes me sick. I laugh at their wars.


You certainly didn't laugh when you were warned of the consequences of the Iraqi invasion in 2003. You were most angry. If I remember rightly, you blamed Muslims and their apologists. l

Have you changed your mind?
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Reply #23 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Because she voted for a war you yourself supported?

But, Homo, what does that make you?
I don't make big world decisions dear. I'm an ordinary man who is at the mercy of a tide created by more powerful man. The TV is something I laugh at  because it makes me sick. I laugh at their wars.


You certainly didn't laugh when you were warned of the consequences of the Iraqi invasion in 2003. You were most angry. If I remember rightly, you blamed Muslims and their apologists. l

Have you changed your mind?
Why do you like warmongers like Hillary?
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Reply #24 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 11:00am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 10:02am:
When Hillary wipes the floor with the bloated orange douche bag on November 8.......

He's a pathetic, whiny child.



The Americans voted Bush in twice so underestimate Trump at your own peril little pecca.

Wink


I can guarantee you that Trump will not be POTUS.

I am so confident of this, that I have said I will leave this forum forever if he wins.



We will be saying good riddance little pecca.  Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Smiley
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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 4:04pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:07pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Look at the leftards on here. "I don't like Clinton but Trump is worse???".


Yes.

Your point?

Clinton is a warmonger!!! What's worse than that?? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Because she voted for a war you yourself supported?

But, Homo, what does that make you?
I don't make big world decisions dear. I'm an ordinary man who is at the mercy of a tide created by more powerful man. The TV is something I laugh at  because it makes me sick. I laugh at their wars.


You certainly didn't laugh when you were warned of the consequences of the Iraqi invasion in 2003. You were most angry. If I remember rightly, you blamed Muslims and their apologists. l

Have you changed your mind?
Why do you like warmongers like Hillary?


Homo, you agreed with her vote. You supported the invasion of Iraq.

If you can't accept this, no worries.

Everybody else can.
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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 4:10pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 11:00am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 10:02am:
When Hillary wipes the floor with the bloated orange douche bag on November 8.......

He's a pathetic, whiny child.



The Americans voted Bush in twice so underestimate Trump at your own peril little pecca.

Wink


I can guarantee you that Trump will not be POTUS.

I am so confident of this, that I have said I will leave this forum forever if he wins.



We will be saying good riddance little pecca. 


Care to make it interesting?

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Reply #27 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 4:21pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 2:09pm:
Why do you like warmongers like Hillary?



Who said they liked Hillary?



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Reply #28 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 4:47pm
 
I'm kind of bored with this campaign. I'll be glad when its over. Just how the Republicans fall back and regroup will be interesting. That is, if they can. Immigration will soar, illegal aliens will receive amnesty, by which the Democrats will do anything to increase their base. It is quite possible the Republican Party will be unable get the numbers again, and the USA as the first world power will go into steep decline.

The problem with the Republicans today, is that they think the George Bush years can be extended indefinitely. Not one of their failed candidates was brave enough to take national problems head on. It almost looked like Trump would, but pretty early on it became apparent that all he had was a few crumby slogans. He was not prepared to present detailed perspectives that could be the basis of policy. Did any of his opponents catch on, and fill the gap? No, they were too busy playing it safe.
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Reply #29 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 5:05pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 4:47pm:
I'm kind of bored with this campaign. I'll be glad when its over. Just how the Republicans fall back and regroup will be interesting. That is, if they can. Immigration will soar, illegal aliens will receive amnesty, by which the Democrats will do anything to increase their base. It is quite possible the Republican Party will be unable get the numbers again, and the USA as the first world power will go into steep decline.

The problem with the Republicans today, is that they think the George Bush years can be extended indefinitely. Not one of their failed candidates was brave enough to take national problems head on. It almost looked like Trump would, but pretty early on it became apparent that all he had was a few crumby slogans. He was not prepared to present detailed perspectives that could be the basis of policy. Did any of his opponents catch on, and fill the gap? No, they were too busy playing it safe.


The problem with the Republicans today is their members' campaign funding. While this is a problem on both sides, it's a virus in the Republicans. Republican politicians get up by being told how to vote by their backers - big pharma, insurance companies, arms manufacturers, security and building contractors.

Because of this, they have no real purpose other than standing up for their donors' interests. It's because of this that they were blackmailed by the Tea Party movement - which was also funded by big money (and a handful of billionaires who live in Trump Tower, many of them friends with you-know-who.)

It's because of this movement that they've veered away even further away from what they've traditionally stood for. They've become a party of loons. Apart from doing their donors' bidding, their only cause these days is to obstruct the Democrats at all costs.

Of course they're Donald Trump's natural choice of party. They stand for nothing.

And this is what the Republicans need to work on: a reason for being.
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