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Reply #60 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:03pm

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Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

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Karnal wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 9:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Pres Joko has warned this issue could tear Indonesia apart. Re ABCTV news

I'll let you in on a secret, dear. Indonesia is already torn apart. It's the job of the governors and presidents and military to keep such a vast, multicultural archipelago together.

Civilisation is a thin veneer, no?

A thin veneer of democracy over an Islamic theocracy? Yuck.

Oh, indeed, Islamic, Hindu, Christian, Animist, all.

Miam miam, no?

Some systems see more happy to defer to secular democracy.
All things aren't equal.

Which ones, Gordon? We'll compare and contrast, shall we?

Fiji
Zimbabwe
Tibet
The Cocos Islands
French Guyana
Indonesia

Which Muslims country has the most robust secular democracy, apart from Indonesia which is about to behead a governor for blasphemy Wink

Is that a multiple choice?

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Reply #61 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:33pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 10:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 10:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 9:06pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:

Pres Joko has warned this issue could tear Indonesia apart. Re ABCTV news

I'll let you in on a secret, dear. Indonesia is already torn apart. It's the job of the governors and presidents and military to keep such a vast, multicultural archipelago together.

Civilisation is a thin veneer, no?

A thin veneer of democracy over an Islamic theocracy? Yuck.

Oh, indeed, Islamic, Hindu, Christian, Animist, all.

Miam miam, no?

Some systems see more happy to defer to secular democracy.
All things aren't equal.

Which ones, Gordon? We'll compare and contrast, shall we?

Fiji
Zimbabwe
Tibet
The Cocos Islands
French Guyana
Indonesia

Which Muslims country has the most robust secular democracy, apart from Indonesia which is about to behead a governor for blasphemy Wink

Is that a multiple choice?

Choose what you want, just don't choose Islam because that's the path away from democracy.

Anything that's good about Indonesia is because of it's leaning towards western democracy and away from Islamic theocracy.

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Re: Jakarta Governor questioned by police
Reply #64 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:42pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

apart from Indonesia which is about to behead a governor for blasphemy

stop being such a drama queen

There we're signs in he crowd calling for his beheading. Just sayn. Wink

there were signs to put Gillard in a chaff bag and throw her out to sea ...

you're still being a drama queen. The max. penalty is 5 yr jail

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Reply #65 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 12:29pm:

apart from Indonesia which is about to behead a governor for blasphemy

stop being such a drama queen

There we're signs in he crowd calling for his beheading. Just sayn. Wink

there were signs to put Gillard in a chaff bag and throw her out to sea ...

you're still being a drama queen. The max. penalty is 5 yr jail

2 questions for ya, Jonboi, please answer to the best of your ability.

Question 1: When has a leader of a western democracy ever been put in a chaff bag and thrown to sea?

Question 2: When has an infidel ever been beheaded for insulting Islam?

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Reply #66 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:18pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

Question 1: When has a leader of a western democracy ever been put in a chaff bag and thrown to sea?

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Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

When has an infidel ever been beheaded for insulting Islam?

don't know ... when was the last time Indonesia beheaded someone for blasphemy?

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Re: Jakarta Governor questioned by police
Reply #67 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:37pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

Question 1: When has a leader of a western democracy ever been put in a chaff bag and thrown to sea?

Harold Holt

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

When has an infidel ever been beheaded for insulting Islam?

don't know ... when was the last time Indonesia beheaded someone for blasphemy?

The question was Muslim. It has precedence.

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Reply #68 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:40pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

Question 1: When has a leader of a western democracy ever been put in a chaff bag and thrown to sea?

Harold Holt

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

When has an infidel ever been beheaded for insulting Islam?

don't know ... when was the last time Indonesia beheaded someone for blasphemy?

The question was Muslim. It has precedence.

we're discussing the protests in Indonesia ... there's a big hint right there in the thread title. Answer please.

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Re: Jakarta Governor questioned by police
Reply #69 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:43pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

Question 1: When has a leader of a western democracy ever been put in a chaff bag and thrown to sea?

Harold Holt

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 1:48pm:

When has an infidel ever been beheaded for insulting Islam?

don't know ... when was the last time Indonesia beheaded someone for blasphemy?

The question was Muslim. It has precedence.

we're discussing the protests in Indonesia ... there's a big hint right there in the thread title. Answer please.

Calling for beheading for insulting Islam is an Indonesian thing or Muslim? I was going to give the Indos a pass and say it's a Muslim thing.

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Reply #70 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:45pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:43pm:

Calling for beheading for insulting Islam is an Indonesian thing or Muslim? I was going to give the Indos a pass and say it's a Muslim thing.

this conversion came about because I told you to stop being a drama queen. You knew the topic was about the protestors in Indonesia before you made such a stupid comment. Don't try to move the goal posts now just because you want to save face.

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Reply #71 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:47pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:43pm:

Calling for beheading for insulting Islam is an Indonesian thing or Muslim? I was going to give the Indos a pass and say it's a Muslim thing.

this conversion came about because I told you to stop being a drama queen. You knew the topic was about the protestors in Indonesia before you made such a stupid comment. Don't try to move the goal posts now just because you want to save face.

If someone hadn't held up a sign asking for his head, we'd not be here. Not my fault!

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Re: Jakarta Governor questioned by police
Reply #73 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 3:05pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:55pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:47pm:

If someone hadn't held up a sign asking for his head, we'd not be here. Not my fault!

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/225_backpedal.jpg

Forward we go. When people upset Muslims, they tend to die.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/15/indonesia-blasphemy-sectarian-viol...

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Reply #74 - Nov 19^th, 2016 at 3:36pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 3:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:55pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2016 at 2:47pm:

If someone hadn't held up a sign asking for his head, we'd not be here. Not my fault!

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/225_backpedal.jpg

Forward we go. When people upset Muslims, they tend to die.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/15/indonesia-blasphemy-sectarian-viol...

this is the problem with fanatics ... of all persuasions

now which law in Indonesia calls for death for blasphemy?

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