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Reply #15 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:43am

One Night Of Peace

Sometimes one spends so much time dreading the lawlessness of government, recognizing the level of destitution, fiscal and legal, that it represents, that somewhere the alternative fails to register on the mind. This is the condition I find myself tonight. Donald Trump was elected President of the United States and whatever might come is hard to decipher, except that at least I know he believes in America and the people who live all across the nation who stood up for him and the rule of law.

Democratic pundits have been spending every second with veiled threats and recriminations. They are stunned. They felt that the illegal votes would put them over the threshold, but they didn't. There are still many, many people in this nation who recognized a chance to defeat the criminal enterprise that threatened this nation and they gave the presidency to Donald Trump.

What we have to fear is the tantrum to be thrown by the current resident of that office. That I can imagine his defiant refusal to give up the office without doing inestimable damage to it is a stain in and of itself. I have had eight years to witness his childish reactions to disobedience to think any better of him. So, we wait to see what his reaction will be, how much damage he is able to inflict? His choice as a Supreme Court justice just went out the window.

But, I also look forward to the power of commerce that might be unleashed. I don't know what metamorphosis might take place between tonight and January 20, but one thing I do think Trump knows how to do and that is to get the American commercial engine reignited. Hopefully, he will be true to his word and rid us of this "green" economy that has, in fact, stalled and hindered all proven means of production. I would hope for a reduction of regulations on business and a restructuring of the IRS, but perhaps that is a wish too many.

There are some smart things he could do without too much effort that would do a great deal for industry and I believe he will do those things, but make no mistake, it is not government I want from him and it was not more government that all of those people came out to vote for him want.

In short, if he would just take the brakes off and stop punishing the producers of this nation, that would be enough.

Trump is not the answer to anything. He not a solution. He is a respite at best. All of the important things are still in place. All of the violations of rights and the surveillance government continue. The media is still hates most of those who voted for him. His ability to select a good Supreme Court justice is still in question. We have been given a few more months to prep and train and learn. He cannot solve the debt issues, or the fact that we still have enemies.

We are in a lot of trouble, but for tonight I can sleep without the knowledge that Clinton will bring her corrupt and evil plans to the Oval Office. One night of peace, I suppose and worry about the rest tomorrow.
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Re: Anti-Trump protests persist for 4th day
Reply #16 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 2:15am

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:43am:

There are some smart things he could do without too much effort that would do a great deal for industry and I believe he will do those things, but make no mistake, it is not government I want from him and it was not more government that all of those people came out to vote for him want.

In short, if he would just take the brakes off and stop punishing the producers of this nation, that would be enough.

Lovely US trade union propaganda, morty torty. That article is pure bullshit of economic nationalism and protectionist trade policies. Just wait until these same union assholes start offering their services (under Trump's direction) as a labor police force in exchange for getting a prominent role in future, corrupt infrastructure projects and plans to coerce more output from workers for global war. Oh, and this won't be no cake walk war, either. The Chinese and Russians have a known history of firing back. The standoff has already started.

Is this the world you want to live in?

Trump's joke of a an administration will be constantly plagued by crisis after crisis of a foreign and domestic nature confronting mass social opposition from the working class.

Trump's presidency will also be short-lived when even assmonkeys like yourself who voted for the puke will bitterly to realize this billionaire charlatan has no ability, let alone intention, to improve the quality of life for anyone except his own ruling class. Trump is another Wall Street puppet. His legacy will represent nothing but that.

Time to suffer for your art, morty torty.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102827 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Anti-Trump protests persist for 4th day Reply #17 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 5:36am But Marla - your new leader has a plan:
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17277 Gender:	Re: Anti-Trump protests persist for 4th day Reply #18 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 11:07am greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am: aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:45am: This is a triumph of a guy with massive street smarts ... ... over 70 pending lawsuits, admissions of sexually assaulting women, and accusations of child rape. greggy pretending moral superiority.
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Re: Anti-Trump protests persist for 4th day
Reply #19 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:30pm

Marla wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 2:15am:

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:43am:

There are some smart things he could do without too much effort that would do a great deal for industry and I believe he will do those things, but make no mistake, it is not government I want from him and it was not more government that all of those people came out to vote for him want.

In short, if he would just take the brakes off and stop punishing the producers of this nation, that would be enough.

Lovely US trade union propaganda, morty torty. That article is pure bullshit of economic nationalism and protectionist trade policies. Just wait until these same union assholes start offering their services (under Trump's direction) as a labor police force in exchange for getting a prominent role in future, corrupt infrastructure projects and plans to coerce more output from workers for global war. Oh, and this won't be no cake walk war, either. The Chinese and Russians have a known history of firing back. The standoff has already started.

Is this the world you want to live in?

Trump's joke of a an administration will be constantly plagued by crisis after crisis of a foreign and domestic nature confronting mass social opposition from the working class.

Trump's presidency will also be short-lived when even assmonkeys like yourself who voted for the puke will bitterly to realize this billionaire charlatan has no ability, let alone intention, to improve the quality of life for anyone except his own ruling class. Trump is another Wall Street puppet. His legacy will represent nothing but that.

Time to suffer for your art, morty torty.

Marla - you really are hurt by Trumps outstanding victory.

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Reply #20 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:31pm

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

This is a triumph of a guy with massive street smarts ...

... over 70 pending lawsuits, admissions of sexually assaulting women, and accusations of child rape.

greggy pretending moral superiority.

No pretending about it.

I have no pending lawsuits, no admissions of sexually assaulting women, and no accusations of child rape.

I'm morally superior to Trump in every way imaginable.

Can you say the same?

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Reply #21 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

This is a triumph of a guy with massive street smarts ...

... over 70 pending lawsuits, admissions of sexually assaulting women, and accusations of child rape.

greggy pretending moral superiority.

No pretending about it.

I have no pending lawsuits, no admissions of sexually assaulting women, and no accusations of child rape.

I'm morally superior to Trump in every way imaginable.

Can you say the same?

Do you think it's possible for someone of poor personal character, even a terrible person like Trump to actually do good in other areas of their lives?

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Reply #22 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 1:05pm

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

This is a triumph of a guy with massive street smarts ...

... over 70 pending lawsuits, admissions of sexually assaulting women, and accusations of child rape.

greggy pretending moral superiority. Cheesy

Moral superiority over Trump is something most people have.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #23 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 1:06pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:

lee wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 7:45am:

This is a triumph of a guy with massive street smarts ...

... over 70 pending lawsuits, admissions of sexually assaulting women, and accusations of child rape.

greggy pretending moral superiority.

No pretending about it.

I have no pending lawsuits, no admissions of sexually assaulting women, and no accusations of child rape.

I'm morally superior to Trump in every way imaginable.

Can you say the same?

Do you think it's possible for someone of poor personal character, even a terrible person like Trump to actually do good in other areas of their lives?

It is possible of course, but history shows that a persons character doesnt really change much. He will do a couple good things and a whole lot of poor things. Assuming he doesnt sexually assault anyone of course - a 50/50 proposition.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Anti-Trump protests persist for 4th day
Reply #24 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 1:45pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Do you think it's possible for someone of poor personal character, even a terrible person like Trump to actually do good in other areas of their lives?

Yes, it's possible.

It's also possible for people with a good personal character, and strong moral principles, to do just as good a job.

These are the people we should be lauding, not the Trumps of the world.

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Reply #25 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 2:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Do you think it's possible for someone of poor personal character, even a terrible person like Trump to actually do good in other areas of their lives?

Yes, it's possible.

It's also possible for people with a good personal character, and strong moral principles, to do just as good a job.

These are the people we should be lauding, not the Trumps of the world.

Bill Cosby is an interesting case. He gave breathtaking amounts of money to charity. You could also say his persona has done amazing things for changing perceptions of African Americans. All round great guy...well apart from the rapes.

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Reply #26 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 3:29pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Do you think it's possible for someone of poor personal character, even a terrible person like Trump to actually do good in other areas of their lives?

Yes, it's possible.

It's also possible for people with a good personal character, and strong moral principles, to do just as good a job.

These are the people we should be lauding, not the Trumps of the world.

Bill Cosby is an interesting case. He gave breathtaking amounts of money to charity. You could also say his persona has done amazing things for changing perceptions of African Americans. All round great guy...well apart from the rapes.

There are good people who do some bad things eg Cosby. then there are bad people who occasionally do bad things.

Who would you rather have leading you? A flawed good person or a bad person with occasional moments of good?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Anti-Trump protests persist for 4th day
Reply #27 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 3:32pm

Mortdooley wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:43am:

One Night Of Peace

Sometimes one spends so much time dreading the lawlessness of government, recognizing the level of destitution, fiscal and legal, that it represents, that somewhere the alternative fails to register on the mind. This is the condition I find myself tonight. Donald Trump was elected President of the United States and whatever might come is hard to decipher, except that at least I know he believes in America and the people who live all across the nation who stood up for him and the rule of law.

Democratic pundits have been spending every second with veiled threats and recriminations. They are stunned. They felt that the illegal votes would put them over the threshold, but they didn't. There are still many, many people in this nation who recognized a chance to defeat the criminal enterprise that threatened this nation and they gave the presidency to Donald Trump.

What we have to fear is the tantrum to be thrown by the current resident of that office. That I can imagine his defiant refusal to give up the office without doing inestimable damage to it is a stain in and of itself. I have had eight years to witness his childish reactions to disobedience to think any better of him. So, we wait to see what his reaction will be, how much damage he is able to inflict? His choice as a Supreme Court justice just went out the window.

But, I also look forward to the power of commerce that might be unleashed. I don't know what metamorphosis might take place between tonight and January 20, but one thing I do think Trump knows how to do and that is to get the American commercial engine reignited. Hopefully, he will be true to his word and rid us of this "green" economy that has, in fact, stalled and hindered all proven means of production. I would hope for a reduction of regulations on business and a restructuring of the IRS, but perhaps that is a wish too many.

There are some smart things he could do without too much effort that would do a great deal for industry and I believe he will do those things, but make no mistake, it is not government I want from him and it was not more government that all of those people came out to vote for him want.

In short, if he would just take the brakes off and stop punishing the producers of this nation, that would be enough.

Trump is not the answer to anything. He not a solution. He is a respite at best. All of the important things are still in place. All of the violations of rights and the surveillance government continue. The media is still hates most of those who voted for him. His ability to select a good Supreme Court justice is still in question. We have been given a few more months to prep and train and learn. He cannot solve the debt issues, or the fact that we still have enemies.

We are in a lot of trouble, but for tonight I can sleep without the knowledge that Clinton will bring her corrupt and evil plans to the Oval Office. One night of peace, I suppose and worry about the rest tomorrow.
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Who started surveillance without warrants? BUSH/REPUBLICANS. Who instituted Torture and the disgrace that is Guantanimo? BUSH/REPUBLCANS

Your political history is a poor as your character.

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Reply #28 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 3:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 1:45pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 14^th, 2016 at 12:53pm:

Do you think it's possible for someone of poor personal character, even a terrible person like Trump to actually do good in other areas of their lives?

Yes, it's possible.

It's also possible for people with a good personal character, and strong moral principles, to do just as good a job.

These are the people we should be lauding, not the Trumps of the world.

If he backflips on climate change THEN HE'S A GENIUS WHO COULD SAVE THE WORLD!

What do those who want to save the world from climate change want: what Trump has!

He could backflip, but i don't actually see how he could do it. considering he's calle d it a Chinese conspiracy to lock America out of jobs then,... I dunno : second to that I supppose he just expects the markets to deal with it as if Renewables were cheap enough then they would be killing the pig themselves.

He's got plans but no ones knows what they are: he seems to just throw the media off the scent and make the public wake up to the fact the media is the enemy.

i dunno,.. just hoping and praying he has plans to deal with the multi-year sea ice melting some-how, no matter how politically incorrect and seemingly nefarious, because right now we're bugger**************************** w/ what was the status quo Shocked

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......Australia has an illegitimate Government!

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Reply #29 - Nov 14^th, 2016 at 3:45pm

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 13^th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

Trump has himself delegitimized his own tenure as president by claiming the election is rigged.

True statement: but the voting consumer doesn't care.. well, maybe the popular vote does...

Do we know if Hillary still won the popular vote?

Hollywood is full of wannabes telling every tourist that they are better than them if they refuse to buy the cd shoved in their face! Yeh, that's a status quo to be proud of!

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......Australia has an illegitimate Government!

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