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Reply #30 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:20pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

my hatred of people hurting each other and burning down property on the basis of an ideology?

does that include bombing civilians from the air?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

I'd say it must stem from me being raised in a liberal society and actually having liberal Beliefs

so you have a liberal ideology?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

And sure, id say I don't have the desire to burn down a church because of Islamic belief because I have none and haven't been raised with Islamic scripture.

so it's safe to say that when the mosque in Geelong was burnt down, it wasn't because of islamic belief ?

Fairly sure I'm on record as saying we should be boots on ground in Syria, not bombing from the air.

And yes, it's due to another form of hatred. Sure. Yet why are you calling one out but not the other? Why do you fail to attribute the problem when it comes to the case of Islam? You sound rather hipocritical to me. A typical regressive I'd say.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Religiously tolerant Indonesia Reply #31 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:22pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:20pm: Yet why are you calling one out but not the other? who says I haven't called them out? anyone who resorts to violence to push a political or ideological agenda is a dickhead. I've never defended extremists or terrorists.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74257 Gender:	Re: Religiously tolerant Indonesia Reply #32 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:23pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:20pm: A typical regressive I'd say. and there's the white flag. Knew it wouldn't take long.
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Reply #33 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:27pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:22pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:20pm:

Yet why are you calling one out but not the other?

who says I haven't called them out? anyone who resorts to violence to push a political or ideological agenda is a dickhead. I've never defended extremists or terrorists.

Ok and where has their dickheadeness come from? Why was your first response to jump at Gordon, rather than discuss this issue, mm regressive?

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Reply #34 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:33pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

Ok and where has their dickheadeness come from?

it comes from their stupidity and brainwashing .. it's easy to try and blame the koran, but that's a cop out.
I'm not sure if you noticed it or not but there are millions upon millions of muslims that read the same Koran, that don't resort to violence ...

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Reply #35 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:34pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

I see our regressive friends are in full swing here. Drawing irrelevant "parallels" to deflect from the fact that once again we have hatred stemming from Islamic belief.

and your hatred stems from what exactly? Islamic disbelief?

my hatred of people hurting each other and burning down property on the basis of an ideology? I'd say it must stem from me being raised in a liberal society and actually having liberal Beliefs. And sure, id say I don't have the desire to burn down a church because of Islamic belief because I have none and haven't been raised with Islamic scripture.

What sort of Islamic scripture, Alevine?

I'm curious.

I haven't been raised with any, karnal. But perhaps we should ask these people, karnal? Or even better, the ones who are "seemingly normal" but marching in the street demanding arrest for criticising a fictional nonsensical book.

What do you think? Shall we ask them what Islamic scripture?

I'm asking you, Alevine. You're condemning it.

Which Islamic text do you blame?

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Reply #36 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:42pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

Ok and where has their dickheadeness come from?

it comes from their stupidity and brainwashing .. it's easy to try and blame the koran, but that's a cop out.
I'm not sure if you noticed it or not but there are millions upon millions of muslims that read the same Koran, that don't resort to violence ...

And yet support blasphemy laws?

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Reply #38 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:01pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:34pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:07pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 7:20pm:

I see our regressive friends are in full swing here. Drawing irrelevant "parallels" to deflect from the fact that once again we have hatred stemming from Islamic belief.

and your hatred stems from what exactly? Islamic disbelief?

my hatred of people hurting each other and burning down property on the basis of an ideology? I'd say it must stem from me being raised in a liberal society and actually having liberal Beliefs. And sure, id say I don't have the desire to burn down a church because of Islamic belief because I have none and haven't been raised with Islamic scripture.

What sort of Islamic scripture, Alevine?

I'm curious.

I haven't been raised with any, karnal. But perhaps we should ask these people, karnal? Or even better, the ones who are "seemingly normal" but marching in the street demanding arrest for criticising a fictional nonsensical book.

What do you think? Shall we ask them what Islamic scripture?

I'm asking you, Alevine. You're condemning it.

Which Islamic text do you blame?

How many are there?

Do you think, karnal?

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Reply #39 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:04pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

Ok and where has their dickheadeness come from?

it comes from their stupidity and brainwashing .. it's easy to try and blame the koran, but that's a cop out.
I'm not sure if you noticed it or not but there are millions upon millions of muslims that read the same Koran, that don't resort to violence ...

Where does the brainwashing come from John?

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Reply #40 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:15pm

freediver wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

Ok and where has their dickheadeness come from?

it comes from their stupidity and brainwashing .. it's easy to try and blame the koran, but that's a cop out.
I'm not sure if you noticed it or not but there are millions upon millions of muslims that read the same Koran, that don't resort to violence ...

Where does the brainwashing come from John?

Surely not Islam? Shocked

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Reply #41 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:35pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:33pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 8:27pm:

Ok and where has their dickheadeness come from?

it comes from their stupidity and brainwashing .. it's easy to try and blame the koran, but that's a cop out.
I'm not sure if you noticed it or not but there are millions upon millions of muslims that read the same Koran, that don't resort to violence ...

Where does the brainwashing come from John?

Surely not Islam? Shocked

Do you blame Islam?

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Reply #43 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 10:03pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

Are we allowed to blame money and corruption?

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Ahok accused his critics of corruption and said the mass protest of hardline Muslims on November 4 was politically motivated, with protestors receiving 500,000 Rupiah to attend.

No? Ok then, must be Islam then...

Who is paying them? Which political interests?

Muslim political interests.

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Reply #44 - Nov 16^th, 2016 at 10:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 16^th, 2016 at 10:00pm:

Are we allowed to blame money and corruption?

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Ahok accused his critics of corruption and said the mass protest of hardline Muslims on November 4 was politically motivated, with protestors receiving 500,000 Rupiah to attend.

No? Ok then, must be Islam then...

All 200,000? Was there an advert for signing up? I must've missed it.

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