freediver wrote on Jan 2
nd, 2017 at 3:34pm:
Seeing as Gandalf likes to tie himself in knots, he thinks that racism should be broadened to include prejudice on the basis of religion. Yet this is exactly what Islam promotes. So by Gandalf's own logic, Islam is racist.
Best try and comprehend what I actually wrote FD, before you confuse yourself more.
Also Islam promotes no such thing: judgement is for God and God alone.
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2
nd, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Gandalf, are you a 'victim' of Moses' claim that all Muslim men are retarded?
If you call being lumped into the one category by someone in an ill-thought out rant on an internet forum being a "victim", then sure - but its not my definition of victimhood. Also I don't give moses credit for properly thinking through what he said. I think its safe to assume he wasn't thinking about non-arab, western converts when he uttered his drivel - would you agree?
Suffice to say, I won't be victimised in any meaningful way by racists - like muslim women getting their hijab ripped off, or an elderly couple getting beaten up by thugs because of something that happened on another continent. Calling me a "victim" of moses' racism rather cheapens actual victims who actually suffer from racism wouldn't you say?
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 2
nd, 2017 at 12:44pm:
It is theoretically possible for the term to be broadened beyond it's current meaning, and a tiny minority including yourself is obviously working towards this. But it has not happened and there is no need for it to happen, as demonstrated by your efforts to negotiate the charge down to bigotry.
It is not a tiny minority - it is universal in the actual relevant field of social sciences. Try doing a bit of reading and educate yourself. In the article I posted in my other thread about racism, we see that a majority of anthropologists don't believe in 'race'
Quote:This is an idiotic copout.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs
Arabs are an ethnic group inhabiting the Arab world.
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Ah I see - so "race" really means "ethnicity"? So tell me FD, do you think you can be racist against ethnicities? Where does "race" even fit in then? What is the point of the word?
As for your "idiotic copout", perhaps you should have actually read your article:
Quote:Today, the main unifying characteristic among Arabs is Arabic, a Central Semitic language from the Afroasiatic language family. Modern Standard Arabic serves as the standardized and literary variety of Arabic used in writing.
Add to that cultural traditions, and membership of an arab nation - and you have the explanation of what it means to be 'Arab' - not genes, not skin colour, not any other biological markers. Arabs are not a "race", and therefore, by your own logic, cannot be the subjects of racism.