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Question: Is the statement is my signature racist?

yes    
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no    
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don't know    
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #180 - Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:34am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:12am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2017 at 8:09pm:
Like I keep telling you, inbred is not a race. Retarded is not a race. Muslim is not a race. Stringing them together in ever more convoluted ways does not make it racist.


Good point FD - and neither is 'sand negro' a race. And stringing it together with 'muslim' does not make it racist. This is your logic by the way, not mine. No one except you is defining 'sand negro' as a race, you are just making it up as you go. Hence words clearly have no meaning - to you.



A child of sand negroes is a sand negro whether they like it or not. The same is not true of inbred or Muslim people. I have pointed out this distinction to you plenty of times. It is a very simple and clear one, which is why the racism distinction is such a clear and easy one to make. You have attempted to invent a different distinction. You failed, and now you are afraid to even discuss it.
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #181 - Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:01am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:34am:
A child of sand negroes is a sand negro whether they like it or not.


Rubbish. Who says? Its a made up word, it can be whatever you want it to be - like insisting its defining race. See what I mean about words having no meaning?

freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:34am:
The same is not true of inbred or Muslim people.


Ah, so now you're saying inbred people have a choice of whether or not they are inbred? Not really thinking this through are you?

freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:34am:
You have attempted to invent a different distinction.


No FD, the inventing is entirely your area - like insisting that 'sand negro' is defining race.

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Re: What is racism?
Reply #182 - Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:42am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:34am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:12am:
freediver wrote on Jan 4th, 2017 at 8:09pm:
Like I keep telling you, inbred is not a race. Retarded is not a race. Muslim is not a race. Stringing them together in ever more convoluted ways does not make it racist.


Good point FD - and neither is 'sand negro' a race. And stringing it together with 'muslim' does not make it racist. This is your logic by the way, not mine. No one except you is defining 'sand negro' as a race, you are just making it up as you go. Hence words clearly have no meaning - to you.



A child of sand negroes is a sand negro whether they like it or not. The same is not true of inbred or Muslim people.


Note the way FD uses a sanitized version of the term "sand n!ggers" to describe Arabs, and then persists with the argument that they're inbred and retarded.

How could this not be seen as racist?
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Reply #183 - Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:59am
 
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Rubbish. Who says? Its a made up word, it can be whatever you want it to be - like insisting its defining race.


Yes Gandalf. I say that is what a sand negro is. I made the term up. Feel free to substitute any racial group you want and it will still hold. On the other hand, if you want to define sand negro differently, you define it in such a way that it is not a race.

You'll get the hang of it.

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Ah, so now you're saying inbred people have a choice of whether or not they are inbred? Not really thinking this through are you?


Read it a little slower Gandalf. You'll figure it out. A child of sand negroes is a sand negro whether they like it or not. The same is not true of inbred or Muslim people. You don't inherit inbred by having inbred parents. You get it from having parents who are related. Hence, sand negro is a race. Inbred is not a race. Muslim is not a race.

Can you explain your alternative definition in a way that makes sense?
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #184 - Jan 5th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:59am:
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Rubbish. Who says? Its a made up word, it can be whatever you want it to be - like insisting its defining race.


Yes Gandalf. I say that is what a sand negro is. I made the term up. Feel free to substitute any racial group you want and it will still hold. On the other hand, if you want to define sand negro differently, you define it in such a way that it is not a race.


No, FD, you don't get to define what a sand negro is. It's an American term, often used in the US military, to describe Arabs. It's used as a disparaging racial slur, describing a tinted race that lives in the desert.

"N1gger" is colloquial American slang for "negro". It is used solely in a racist context, even when used by blacks themselves, who use the term to make light of its racist connotations.

Describing Arabs as "sand negros", as you are, is indeed racist. I note that you are not using the term ironically. You are using it to describe a race of, in your words, "inbred retards". You regularly post your Arab inbreeding map to present a scientific rationale to your racism. You have also described the argument that Arab interbreeding with Africans causes genetic defects and subnormal intelligence as a "plausible theory".

I also note that you are employing the term "sand negro" to confront and make fun of people's hostility to racism. You are brandishing racist terminology to argue that racism in this case does not exist, and you are doing so in an attempt to conceal your racism.

Your belief that people must admit to their racism to be judged as racist is wrong. Racism, like all social phenomena, is held in language. Most people are unaware of their racism until they are confronted with it. Arguing that you're not racist while you simultaneously present the most obvious racist arguments reveals your racism to all. It's telling that those who indulge in your racist arguments are self-confessed racists - Homo, the old boy and Sprint, who you used to challenge regularly over his racism.

You can continue to hide your racism, FD, or you can choose to embrace it - as many other members here have. It seems a bit hypocritical, however, to keep hiding, evading and skirting the issue. We don't need to know what lies behind your words, we have the words themselves.

Wacist, innit.
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #185 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 7:22am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:59am:
Feel free to substitute any racial group you want and it will still hold.


Great idea FD - so I'll substitute with "retarded inbred". Glad we've sorted that out.

freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:59am:
You don't inherit inbred by having inbred parents.


Brilliant  Grin  Now repeat that claim with the proper description I offered:

you don't inherit inbred-related retardedness by having inbred parents

Sound dumb? It is.

freediver wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 10:59am:
Can you explain your alternative definition in a way that makes sense?


Already have. How about you ask me exactly what to clarify in a way that make sense?
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Reply #186 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:15am
 
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Brilliant  Grin  Now repeat that claim with the proper description I offered:

you don't inherit inbred-related retardedness by having inbred parents

Sound dumb? It is.


It is correct Gandalf. This is why I keep suggesting you stop running away from the inbreeding discussion.

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Already have. How about you ask me exactly what to clarify in a way that make sense?


I already have. I cannot be more specific because there was a lot of vague waffle. Every time I try to boil it down for you, you insist I got it wrong. I want you to say exactly what the distinction was you were making earlier between racist and non-racist criticism, without the waffle and hyperbole.
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Re: What is racism?
Reply #187 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:24am
 
FD just think about this carefully:

you are saying you can't get inbred-related retardedness by having inbred parents. Presumably inbred retards are so because they choose to be - yes?

Pause a moment before responding to this.
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Reply #188 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:36am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:15am:
I already have. I cannot be more specific


You could actually be more specific FD - you could ask me to explain something that I actually said - instead of asking me to explain the exact opposite of what I said.

You do understand that you 'paraphrased' me saying the exact opposite of what I said right?
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Reply #189 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:50am
 
"racism"  is just another word for Intolerance..

you see a lot of it on ozpol.
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Reply #190 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 9:16am
 
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:15am:
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Brilliant  Grin  Now repeat that claim with the proper description I offered:

you don't inherit inbred-related retardedness by having inbred parents

Sound dumb? It is.


It is correct Gandalf. This is why I keep suggesting you stop running away from the inbreeding discussion.


And this is why I keep suggesting you're pushing a racist agenda.
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Reply #191 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 9:16am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:36am:
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:15am:
I already have. I cannot be more specific


You could actually be more specific FD - you could ask me to explain something that I actually said - instead of asking me to explain the exact opposite of what I said.


Ah.
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Reply #192 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 9:33am
 
Help me out here K - can you make sense of how "you don't inherit inbred-related retardedness by having inbred parents" - could possibly be "correct"?
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Reply #193 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 10:04am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 6th, 2017 at 9:33am:
Help me out here K - can you make sense of how "you don't inherit inbred-related retardedness by having inbred parents" - could possibly be "correct"?


Well, G, we could play along for another 13 pages or we can just call FD's tapdancing what it is.

You know it, I know it, and FD knows it.

Wacism, innit.
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Reply #194 - Jan 6th, 2017 at 10:08am
 
But its such an unbelievably stupid thing to say. I was hoping FD would just say "sorry, I misread" or something. But then again I'm still trying to get him to understand that he paraphrased me saying the exact opposite of what I said so...
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