freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:


No.

I would however insist that not a single Nazi or Nazi sympathiser supported genocide of an entire ethnic group out of a sense of self interest without actually considering themselves superior. Big difference.

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 12:32pm:


No. Now please just take a deep breath and take a moment to try and understand how utterly dumb that logic is.

How in the realm of reality can you possibly credit someone as not racist simply because they make an idiotic broad-brushing of an entire group that you know for a fact to be false? Thats literally what you are saying: by describing all muslims aa inbred and intellectually retarded who kill people, it can't be racist because I know he must be including people who are not inbred/retarded and kill people. Thats your brilliant logic FD. Hope you're proud of it.

The fact that he obviously wasn't even thinking about muslims that don't fit his stereotype (eg me) - or simply consciously disregarding them - is the very reason why its racist. Broad strokes of negative attributes to construct an inferior race - remember?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 12:38pm:


G, you do realize FD's just having a laugh, don't you?

But I'm curious. Why do you think FD would ask lots of questions and cast aspersions and make stuff up in order to distract from a simple question?

What is racism, and is FD racist?

He's doing it in the other thread - what is free speech, and does FD actually support it?

These are the questions on everybody's lips. Now watch as FD fills more and more pages to avoid answering them.

And watch as we all play dumb and answer FD's mindless questions.

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 2:46pm:


I do wonder sometimes...

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 3:45pm:


Well, FD did say so himself, G. Sometimes a question is just a question, remember?

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 5:28pm:


Horseshit.  They made nothing.  It was given to them.

Aussie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:



Well, look at the differences between Israle on the one hand, and Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria on the other.

Clearly the Jews made MUCH, MUCH more of that sliver of land than the Arabs have of their vast territories.


Human capital, innit.

Gandalf have you abandoned your argument that it is racist to say people who are born stupid are more likely to adopt Islam, but it is not racist to say that people who are willfully stupid are more likely to adopt Islam?

Aborigines get better treatment under Australian law. Could that only be motivated by notions of aboriginal superiority?

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The "west" did not invade. Nor did the jews even. For the most part they simply immigrated. Aussie is suggesting they be forced back, based on whether they are Arabs. Do you think that is racist?

Perhaps a more familiar example would be more likely to get a straight answer. If someone suggested all non-whites should be kicked out of England, not out of a sense of superiority, but merely 'white ownership' of the Island and discontent with past policy, would that be racist?

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It is call for forced mass migration Gandalf, not a mere "critique" of past policy. Do I need to quote him again? You are doing a wonderful job of ignoring his actual words in order to apologise for his blatant racism.

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I am simply trying to establish that it is racist, not multiplication of difference, whatever that is.

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Would you insist the Lebensraum argument is not racist when it is made solely for the purpose of benefitting Aryans and without a justification of superiority?

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We are not talking about whether Moses is racist Gandalf, or whether he is correct (unless of course you have just changed your argument once more to insist that racism must be incorrect). We are talking about whether this particular claim is racist.

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Again, he did not mention retarded.

And you are incorrect. I am saying it is not racist because inbred is not a race, not because he doesn't really mean inbred. Retarded is not a race. Muslim is not a race. Is this sounding familiar yet Gandalf? Let me know when it sinks in.

It is not racist because you agree that Muslim is not a race, and if Moses intended to include you then it is not a "marker" for a race either, which is the only basis you gave earlier for including religious groups in racism.

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Is that your answer - that Moses was not including white Muslims such as yourself? Why was that so difficult for you?

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So why go to such absurd lengths to create your fantasy of a purebred race of recessive retards to cling to a racism angle when you really meant to substitute his actual words for "tinted Muslims"? Would it be fair to say you are making this up as you go along, as every single argument you put forward is shown to be flawed and irrational?

My bad. I meant bugger orf. Is that the politically correct term Aussie?

When you said the white Jews should bugger orf, were you actually making a statement about the right of white Jews to set up a country wherever they damn well please?