I acknowledge that there have always been Jewish Arabs living, as they have, in the Land of Arabs and say they have the right to fight it out with the non Jewish Arabs as all of them have been doing for centuries.

The Jewish 'Jacob Come Latelys' can sort it out for themselves.  They can stay there smack in the middle of heat, or move with the 'State of Israel' to Tasmania where everyone will be quite happy little vegemites.

Gandalf have you abandoned your argument that it is racist to say people who are born stupid are more likely to adopt Islam, but it is not racist to say that people who are willfully stupid are more likely to adopt Islam?

Aborigines get better treatment under Australian law. Could that only be motivated by notions of aboriginal superiority?

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The "west" did not invade. Nor did the jews even. For the most part they simply immigrated. Aussie is suggesting they be forced back, based on whether they are Arabs. Do you think that is racist?

Perhaps a more familiar example would be more likely to get a straight answer. If someone suggested all non-whites should be kicked out of England, not out of a sense of superiority, but merely 'white ownership' of the Island and discontent with past policy, would that be racist?

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It is call for forced mass migration Gandalf, not a mere "critique" of past policy. Do I need to quote him again? You are doing a wonderful job of ignoring his actual words in order to apologise for his blatant racism.

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I am simply trying to establish that it is racist, not multiplication of difference, whatever that is.

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Would you insist the Lebensraum argument is not racist when it is made solely for the purpose of benefitting Aryans and without a justification of superiority?

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We are not talking about whether Moses is racist Gandalf, or whether he is correct (unless of course you have just changed your argument once more to insist that racism must be incorrect). We are talking about whether this particular claim is racist.

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Again, he did not mention retarded.

And you are incorrect. I am saying it is not racist because inbred is not a race, not because he doesn't really mean inbred. Retarded is not a race. Muslim is not a race. Is this sounding familiar yet Gandalf? Let me know when it sinks in.

It is not racist because you agree that Muslim is not a race, and if Moses intended to include you then it is not a "marker" for a race either, which is the only basis you gave earlier for including religious groups in racism.

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Is that your answer - that Moses was not including white Muslims such as yourself? Why was that so difficult for you?

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So why go to such absurd lengths to create your fantasy of a purebred race of recessive retards to cling to a racism angle when you really meant to substitute his actual words for "tinted Muslims"? Would it be fair to say you are making this up as you go along, as every single argument you put forward is shown to be flawed and irrational?

So not recognising Israel is your idea for stability and peace?

Would you recognise Israel if they got rid of the European Jews?

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 8:21pm:


If the artificially created 'State of Israel' moved to Tasmania, I too would be a happy little vegemite.

What have you got against Tasmania?  It is far better than that crappy sliver of land the new 'Jacob Come Lately' Israelis find too small that they have to invade neighbours ~ because they can with Western donated money and hardware.

Nah.  Arabia is for Arabs.  Newbie, coat-tail, 'Jacob' (black, white, brindle, red, orange and green etc) can ferk off.

Frank wrote on Jan 11^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:


'Please explain.'