Gandalf have you abandoned your argument that it is racist to say people who are born stupid are more likely to adopt Islam, but it is not racist to say that people who are willfully stupid are more likely to adopt Islam?
Aborigines get better treatment under Australian law. Could that only be motivated by notions of aboriginal superiority?
Quote:So just to be clear FD - a statement that clearly stipulates that there is a problem with invasion and foreign meddling - and that those invaders and meddlers should "bugger off" and leave the natives alone - is racist? Or is it only racist when its referring to jews?
The "west" did not invade. Nor did the jews even. For the most part they simply immigrated. Aussie is suggesting they be forced back, based on whether they are Arabs. Do you think that is racist?
Perhaps a more familiar example would be more likely to get a straight answer. If someone suggested all non-whites should be kicked out of England, not out of a sense of superiority, but merely 'white ownership' of the Island and discontent with past policy, would that be racist?
Quote:Has it yet dawned on you how such a political statement critiquing colonialism (albeit crudely expressed)
It is call for forced mass migration Gandalf, not a mere "critique" of past policy. Do I need to quote him again? You are doing a wonderful job of ignoring his actual words in order to apologise for his blatant racism.
Quote:is about 1000 times different to actual racism
I am simply trying to establish that it is racist, not multiplication of difference, whatever that is.
Quote:I would however insist that not a single Nazi or Nazi sympathiser supported genocide of an entire ethnic group out of a sense of self interest without actually considering themselves superior. Big difference.
Would you insist the Lebensraum argument is not racist when it is made solely for the purpose of benefitting Aryans and without a justification of superiority?
Quote:No. Now please just take a deep breath and take a moment to try and understand how utterly dumb that logic is.
How in the realm of reality can you possibly credit someone as not racist simply because they make an idiotic broad-brushing of an entire group that you know for a fact to be false?
We are not talking about whether Moses is racist Gandalf, or whether he is correct (unless of course you have just changed your argument once more to insist that racism must be incorrect). We are talking about whether this particular claim is racist.
Quote:Thats literally what you are saying: by describing all muslims aa inbred and intellectually retarded who kill people, it can't be racist because I know he must be including people who are not inbred/retarded and kill people.
Again, he did not mention retarded.
And you are incorrect. I am saying it is not racist because inbred is not a race, not because he doesn't really mean inbred. Retarded is not a race. Muslim is not a race. Is this sounding familiar yet Gandalf? Let me know when it sinks in.
It is not racist because you agree that Muslim is not a race, and if Moses intended to include you then it is not a "marker" for a race either, which is the only basis you gave earlier for including religious groups in racism.
Quote:The fact that he obviously wasn't even thinking about muslims that don't fit his stereotype (eg me)
Is that your answer - that Moses was not including white Muslims such as yourself? Why was that so difficult for you?
Quote:is the very reason why its racist
So why go to such absurd lengths to create your fantasy of a purebred race of recessive retards to cling to a racism angle when you really meant to substitute his actual words for "tinted Muslims"? Would it be fair to say you are making this up as you go along, as every single argument you put forward is shown to be flawed and irrational?
Now he's playing the One Nation card.
Pauline says she's not wacist too.
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